No Divorce in the Philippines, who is sinning.

Philippines
March 23, 2013 6:44pm CST
There is no divorce in the Philippines. Mainly due to the influence of the Catholic Church the Philippines has no divorce law. Due to this people who find themselves in bad or abusive relatioships are forced to make a choice. Stay in a bad situation, live forever alone or live in a state of adultry. More often than not the last choice accures at some point. The word Asawa used to mean husband or wife but now means partner. The church has created a situation that forces people to sin. Which is the greater crime, to sin or to cause others to sin? Perhaps the church needs absolution. What do you think?
16 responses
@alpha9180 (301)
• Malaysia
27 Mar 13
According to the Bible in Matthew 19:6, when a husband and wife are married, they became one flesh and are no longer two. We must pay particular attention to the Lord no longer two. This meaning that a man and a woman being joined together to be a complete person. Since two are joined as one, they should not be separated or divorced and this yoking is God's work; it is of God, Marriage is one; if it becomes through divorce, there is confusion. Unless a man's wife commits adultery, he may not divorce her and marry another. The marriage of a man and a woman is a symbol of the joining of Christ and the church. The apostle considers Christ as the husband and the believers as His betrothed.
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@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
24 Mar 13
i think people need to stop relying on the church for common sense issues. for example, no one is going to die and go to hell because they chose not to stay in an abusive relationship.
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• Philippines
24 Mar 13
That is my opinion also but the church here has an nunbrlievably strong hold on everything.
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
24 Mar 13
i know. that's the problem. it will be hard to changed the minds of the people, then.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
24 Mar 13
When there is no separation of state and church, i assume that is what you are going to get from law makers. The government may not have any clue how to run your nation's institutions in a secular manner and in a sensible way that apply to ordinary people, except get influent by religion establishment is passing national law concerning civil liberty of the people. You are right, the absence of divorce law may have to change to lower adultery rate, but doing so will anger many of the powerful church officials in Philippine, it needs strong political wills inside your government to make it right. It is unlikely going to happen so long as lack of common sense continue to exist within your elected officials.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
24 Mar 13
May be Catholic officials don't consider adultery as a sin or just not a bigger sin than going through divorce in their religion doctrine. So the question of forcing people to commit sin doesn't exist at all as long as according to Catholic rule. I know many time religion doctrines don't always apply to the establishment leaders as it is apply to an ordinary folk, we all are not govern under the same "God" law according to them.
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
As far back as the writings of Rizal this has been and issue. To my knowlege the chuch doesn't hold official status but has so much influence with the voters that other than the new president no politician dares cross them.
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
There lies one of the major problems. Gods law should be law for all not some. My opinion of course.
@beamer88 (4259)
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
I've never put the blame on the Catholic Church for the increasing cases of bad marriages. Religion is a set of beliefs that people adhere to because of their faith. True, we are predominantly Catholic and that the Church can be influential in the enactment of laws, but there is still the principle of separation of Church and State. It's a matter of political will. Besides, will a divorce law prevent adultery or concubinage?
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
24 Mar 13
that is interesting to know your country has no laws separating church and state. it is supposedly here in the u.s.
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
Devorce Law won't stop adultry but it can keep it from becoming as accepted a pratice as it has here. I know more people living with a second partner than with their first and this also leaves open the second wife or husband not having legal rights.
@natliegleb (5175)
• India
24 Mar 13
this seems to be quite bizarre and i cant even think of it and i think the government has to be blamed
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
I find rather strang myself but the Philippines was basicly ruled by the church in colonial times and then even through WWII the church has been the one constant here. They are trying to pass a divorce law now but the chuch is working hard to kill it. The new president is the one person since Marcos to stand up to the church.
@ayeeesha (1127)
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
It's going to take years before the Divorce Bill will be passed. There are so many considerations, such as the Catholic Church, and adding divorce means amending the Family Code as well. Plus, some are arguing that it won't conform with the Constitution. Although personally, I think divorce bill is not necessary since we already have annulment. I think what the legislators should do is just amend the Family Code and set the grounds properly, which can be annulled. For example, instead of just legal separation for physical abuse, make it an annullable one. But of course, with the upcoming elections and the kind of legislators we have, this is going to be a waiting game.
@ayeeesha (1127)
• Philippines
25 Mar 13
I have to correct you on that. In case the marriage is annulled, the father will NOT be freed from his responsibilities to his children, unless he is found to be incapable of providing the children's needs. And the children will also not become illegitimate at once, unless the marriage of the parents are void from the start i.e. lack of consent on both contracting parties, lack of authority of the solemnizing officer. But other than that, the legitimacy of the child will not be affected.
• Philippines
25 Mar 13
One of my big issues in this is that with an annulment the father is free from responsibity for his children and for all practicle purposes the children are considerd illigitamit. I know I can't spell today.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
25 Mar 13
They have even resorted to posting the politicians as a blacklisted ones to "help" the church goers decide for divorce. Our church has remained close minded when it comes to the issues. there are pros and cons... and yes i think this is all the more just helping out people to sin because of the slow process of having your marriages annulled. Imagine that you have got photos, videos, etc that proved of the wedding rites taking place only years after to be proven null and void - as if non existence just because one must admit that they are incapacitated to be in a relationship. boo! Only the rich are protected by these and those that do not have money for a lawyer and for filing an annulment would most likely just die not being able to settle their personal matters legally.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
24 Mar 13
I think it is a shame that there is no divorce in the Philippines as some men can be abusive or have affairs with other women. Both of those vices are not acceptable. I think that in the modern time then rules can be changed. Some religions are able to update themselves. I watch a program called Banged UP Abroad and one week it had a lady from the Philippines. She had a husband and two children. She was working overseas and on-line she had got chatting to an English man. Later on the lady met up with the English man and had a holiday relationship with him. She ended up getting pregnant and her husband went mad about that. She and the English man got put in jail for some time. They got out and then the husband tried to kill them. She fled to England with the man and had her baby. Her other two children remain with her husband in the Philippines.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
25 Mar 13
Jesus said that Moses gave the Israelites the choice of divorcing their wives because of the hardness of their hearts, but in the beginning it was not so. Jesus gave only one reason where it would be OK to divorce and remarry. That is in the case of adultery, the innocent party is free to marry again. That is a hard saying and is the reason that people should be very, very choosey when they pick their life partner. Since I'm not Catholic, I don't feel free to comment as to their rules.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
Hello, glovvornblog! Welcome to Mylot! This is a never ending debate in our country. It is really hard to pass this law in a country such as ours who is mostly Catholic. But I do understand the situation of couples who are in a messy relationship. And I myself have asked these questions: Why should couples remain in a relationship when they have obviously fallen out of love and respect for one another? Why would they let to live a lie and show their kids that they are fine when the truth is they both have other people in their lives? Why would a woman stick with a husband who clearly despises her?
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
I have neighbor 17 years old, here family pushed her into a marriege she didn't want. Now she has ahusband who drinks every night and was beatting her befor mywife and I interviend. Like most abusiers he is a coward and terrified of me. The poor young girl at seventeen now has to face a liftime in this situation both for herself and her child, that is on the way. If they didn't live next to us I don't think her or her baby will survive.
@pahak627 (4558)
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
Yes, there is a need for a divorce law in the Philippines in order to accommodate those who need to marry another. That is the worst part of a married life. When there is a need to call off a marriage, we don't have a choice but remain with the abusive partner or separate and find live-in partner. Too bad....
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
To me it runs even deeper than just the adults involved. I have a friend whoes husband is trying to get and annulment because of no divorce law. If it goes through their son will become iligitament as far as the law is concerned and the father will have no legal responsibility for his son after that.
@doroffee (4222)
• Hungary
25 Mar 13
Oh, it's so bad and horrible. Everyone makes mistakes, and people should be granted a chance to start again, unless they have made a really awful crime or sin... and I don't think choosing a partner wrongly is one of them.
@suni51 (3429)
• India
24 Mar 13
I never knew about this law of no divorce in Philippines until I read your discussion. But I am rather surprised that in a developed society like Philistine there is no such law. And why does church not approve it to keep matters straight? I think it's normal to separate legally to avoid illicit relations. Cheers.
• Philippines
25 Mar 13
I believe in the Bible when it says that no one should separate what God put together but I know it is hard when you got married to the wrong person. Well, if all people will be Christians, then there would not be anymore cases of husbands physically abusing their wives. I think before we go to the topic of divorce, it will be best if we will start knowing about Christian living so that divorce won't happen.
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
Well, soon to be approved that for sure. There is always a change for everything. Anyways, there is annulment. So it is basically married couple can separate legally too. It is up to the the person if she going to stick with his/her partner. For me, if the relationship wont work anymore. Leave it. Find your happiness. If you are still happy staying with your husband who is drunkard then that's grounded choice. Nobody can question that even if it seems insane in front of other,if you yourself happy with him. hahaha. Same goes to the hubby, even if you have lazy, jealous, wife but you are still so happy with her, no one can question that. That is love. Furthermore, do not accuse church. Church is just a guideline. Still it is within the people decisions.
@iamsittie (327)
• Philippines
24 Mar 13
There is a divorce in the Philippines but only to Muslims. We practice divorce but there are certain things to be considered. Divorce will be the last option if after so many reconciliations made, still the husband and wife want to have their own separate lives. Accordingly in Islam, if the two couples are not happy with each other and they do not want to be together anymore it is better to be divorced than to lead them to marital infidelity which is one of the major sins.