Can most women not take a joke? (mini-rant)
By AidaLily
@AidaLily (1450)
United States
March 28, 2013 8:29pm CST
My husband and I went to something our local family center was having for the parents. One of the young women there was talking about getting married and everyone was making different jokes about being married, and my husband just made a joke about being miserable and she flipped out which made everyone give her weird looks.
She kept asking how could he say something like that with me sitting right there and so on and that she felt sorry for me. My response that I wasn't offended and found it amusing as did a couple of the other married women and men there. It was just friendly conversation and while she is younger than me, it is only by roughly 6 years as she is 19.
Later on, I was reading different articles online and read through some of the comments in which a bunch of people flipped out on a guy for saying the same thing but he said his wife found it amusing and even offered a rebuttal to it. However, the comments were written by "women" (as who knows with the internet) about how terrible it was.
In a relationship, you go through many ups and downs with your partner but seriously, if the other partner isn't offended then why make such a big deal out of it. I mean she kept going on about how terrible it was on facebook as well. I will admit to having the less than gracious thought of 'Maybe this is why she isn't married'.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
30 Mar 13
Well... different people are different. Typically.... again, not a universal truth, but in general women are less able to take personal jabs than guys.
Guys sit around and insult each other. Your fat, your stupid, your a moron, your ugly. And we all laugh at whoever has the best zing on the other, even if the other is ourselves.
Women, in general, laugh at impersonal jokes. They don't take personal zings that much.
Now there are exceptions everywhere, and I have of course met many brilliantly funny women, who had no problem with this at all.
However, I don't think that's the problem here.
From what you have described, I would wager that this girl, that's only 19, is likely still living in a fantasy world. The truth is, our culture has drastically over romanticized marriage, into this mythical fairy tale world of perfect bliss and endless hugs and kisses.
Almost... kind of like a Jesus complex, where the white perfect knight in shining armor is going to have perfect love for me.
Of course in the real world, where you AidaLily live, know that marriage isn't like that at all. Just as you described, even on your husbands best days, he can still drive you nuts sometimes, and of course you drive him crazy now and then yourself.
This is normal, and reality as it is, without the fairy tale.
It sounds to me, and obviously I'm guessing based on what you said, that your husband's jokes were shattering her fairy tale marriage world, and that made her flip out. Because obviously her fantasy can't be wrong, so it's got to be your husband that is the problem.
If anything you should sit her down and tell her how reality really is. Maybe if you shatter her fantasy world, she'll have a better chance of getting, and staying, married. Unfortunately, people living in a fantasy when they marry, tend to not have long lasting marriages.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
30 Mar 13
I am inclined to agree with you. I mean this girl continuously posted on facebook about how terrible it was and how she felt sorry for a wife who has a husband who said something like that until I removed her because it was just outright ridiculous how long she kept going on and on about what he said. I wasn't even offended by what he said. The majority of that group were married people (even if their spouse was at work) and some couples in long term relationships as well. There were single people there as well and she was one of the youngest there. They all found it amusing and added their own little jokes about marriage in there.
I think she was living in this fantasy world as well. It started out simple with the married women sharing some stories of their weddings both good and bad and moved into marriage. I am thinking she felt marriage was like having her wedding everyday which it quite obviously is not.
It would probably be better if once she cools down I sit and have a talk with her. Based on talking with her before, she is the type to dream of that huge princess style wedding and reception. It was just shocking to us and the people there how much she flipped out about it. There are happy and 'miserable' times in every marriage with the severity of the misery obviously depending on the couple and circumstances.
I have to agree that people living in a fantasy world when they marry end up at least getting divorced once unless they can handle the cold hard truth once the "honeymoon" feeling wears off.
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@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
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29 Mar 13
The difference between 19 and 25 is ENORMOUS. I suspect her idea of marriage is all flowers, romance and film-style love when the reality is mostly day-to-day grind.
Not that that's a bad thing, of course, but most people who aren't married (or long-term involved) just don't understand serious relationships. She obviously has no clue but I'm sure she'll find out soon enough... or she'll end up with a string of divorces and will publish a book about how all men are disappointing.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
30 Mar 13
Before this, I never thought of it as such as huge difference considering it isn't even a full decade but I do agree with you. It is most likely that she is living in a fantasy land. I could see if she was engaged and talking about marriage like that upset her but she isn't even dating. She might end up doing that second one if she doesn't learn. To me she seems like the type to really want a relationship but her outburst made me question if she is really ready for one.
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@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
30 Mar 13
Exactly! It is just too bad that she wasn't laughing that time. Maybe the joke hit her.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
30 Mar 13
It might have hit her. Maybe it started introducing her to the reality that marriage isn't always sunshine and roses. Once she gets married and sees how marriage has it ups and downs she will think back on it and laugh. As I have stated in other responses, if I wasn't offended she shouldn't have been. I mean I married him and he said that. LOL. I am used to my husband's sense of humor and it doesn't bother me but she just wouldn't let it go. I hope she cools down soon enough because I think I am going to end up having a talk with her.
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@doroffee (4222)
• Hungary
30 Mar 13
I mean, I would feel a bit offended if I was talking about enthusiastically about my wedding and all I got from the people there were jokes about how bad a marriage is and how effing funny their jokes are. It's like, if I'm that enthusiastic about what I'm talking about, I don't like if people tried to bring my mood down, even if they thinkl it's just a joke. I find it a bit rude, to be honest. Not necessarily because oh, it's not funny and oh, why women are treated so badly, but because if I'm talking about something that means so much to me... you get it.
But flipping out this much and saying that I'm sorry for their wives. That's as lowlife as a response for these jokes could get. It's rude to tell to someone that they are horrible husbands or wives if you don't know their relationships.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
30 Mar 13
Exactly. It is horrible to tell someone they are horrible husbands or wives if you don't know their relationships. The other people there that were married just found the comment amusing and made similar ones.
She isn't getting married or engaged currently. She just randomly brought up the conversation and I realize she might have felt a bit more out of place as most of the people there were either married or in a long term relationship. It might have somewhat broke her ideal of what marriage was by listening to the jokes made by people in a point past hers. I am under the impression that she thinks it is more romantic and/or everything suddenly comes together when people get married and things just happen as to where that isn't the reality.
I am just shocked she flipped out that much. I mean she didn't even let it go when it was over constantly posting to people on FB about how horrible it was and marriage isn't like that and yeah. She even told me again how she felt sorry for me and I ended up removing her because seriously if I am not offended, she should not try to be offended for me.
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@srisahara (4508)
• Indonesia
29 Mar 13
I also hear the joke "married being miserable" I think it is the true joke, because when we have decide to married, we will face many problems that sometimes we never think before. Even, my nephew says that married means we have many problems in our life. yes, it is right, but through marriage we being wise people. Yes, the problems in marriage bring us wise.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
30 Mar 13
I agree that the problems in marriage can lead to strength and in times wisdom for the married couple. It was just a joke in a group that mostly consisted of married men or women and some married couples and some singles. I am guessing she doesn't realize the problems as well as the good times that come with marriage.
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@maxfashioned (188)
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29 Mar 13
The joke must have hit close to home you know what I mean. My husband and I have very different definitions of funny. What he thinks is funny I usually view as mean.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
30 Mar 13
I agree. She isn't dating and she is the type to tell everyone if she was but I guess it might have hit too close to home for her. The other couples there just laughed it off even making little jokes like how one's husband didn't put the toilet seat down and how a wife never cooks dinner on time, but they weren't serious at all.
I do know that a few couples have different definitions of what can be considered funny but if I was offended, she shouldn't have tried to be offended for me and just let it go afterwards.
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@danishcanadian (28955)
• Canada
12 Apr 13
I agree with the woman who "flipped" I'd like to think that the marriage is one partnership that can be a haven for both partners. This also crosses over to husband jokes. If I would not appreciate him making jokes about me (he totally agrees!) I'd never turn around and make jokes about him either.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
13 Apr 13
I obviously don't agree with the woman who flipped considering it was my husband who said it. I found it hilarious. If people can't laugh at themselves, I feel like they have a lot of insecurities and such.
I know he is happy with me and I am happy with him. It all depends on the couple of course though. Every couple is different. :)
I personally think she overreacted. My husband is not a bad husband or anything like that and in my opinion she had no business saying that or proclaiming she felt sorry for me because my husband has a sense of humor.
I feel more sorry for her because I feel she lives in a fantasy world about relationships.
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
29 Mar 13
I could see her getting mad if you were all single and making fun of being married, but you are married yourself! If you didn't have a problem with it I don't see why she did. Lol. I guess everyone is different? You got me... I would not have taken it offensively. It's not like it was a personal attack against her, you were talking about marriage in general. So confused on her reaction to be honest.
My husband jokes a lot about we have only been married for 8 years this year, gosh it feels like it's been at least 20! Lol, I know he's joking so it doesn't bother me. He is a smart a$$, I already know that. So, jokes like that really would not annoy me at all, I am used to my husband...
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
29 Mar 13
I could see it too if that was the case but one married couple there has been married for over 15 years and found it amusing. I have no idea why she took offense to my husband making that joke at all but not to me saying right after that I hope to make him miserable for many more years too. I know he isn't going to or trying to leave me and vice versa.
My husband is also a smart a$$ and says things like that all the time. I know this, I've accepted it, and the jokes don't bother me at all. I've been married almost 2 years but we will have been together for 6 years this May and we knew each other for 3 years before that in high school.
I guess maybe she felt it was rude or something but I really couldn't help thinking 'this is probably why you aren't married' when she was speaking and going off about it.
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