what do you think about induced abortion

there are cases that abortion is legal and you mentioned these in your post - to save the mother's life and for those victims of rape. i agree with everything that you said.

So I absolutely love this response, "we could all go radical fanatical GOD GOD this and GOD GOD that, but when push came to shove and there is no food, no water, complete anarchy and people are slaughtering each other and eating each other there will be no GOD to protect anyone" So true. I don't really want to bring my religious views into this, but having a baby is a gift of life, but we already have the gift of life... ourselves. Aborting is not a sin, not in my books because honestly here in Canada there are strict regulations on when you can abort a baby... meaning you can't do it if it is too far along (obviously)... We are all organisms! We all start out as SINGLE CELLS, and in the beginning of that first trimester, your baby is nothing more than THIS. So, honestly, I think people have no right to claim GOD GOD this and GOD GOD that when it comes to abortion. A mother has every right to say whether she wants to carry her child or not, and if she wants to abort it, then so be it. It is not murder until it is considered human.The only reason people are so against it is because they know that a Fetus has the potential to become a human, and people can't justify murdering that opportunity... and yet LegalAlien is right in saying that when it comes down to it... I don't want my child dealing with 250,000 other people who want to kill it because there isn't enough water, nor enough food. I just posted about Thomas Hobbes on another response and basically he states in his book the Leviathan that the natural state of humankind is the state of perpetual war and that if it weren't for a governing sovereign then we would be living in a life that is, "nasty, brutish, and short," and therefore be living for only survival. Our natural state is to survive and kill, so this isn't that far off... we will abort our babies if we cannot support it, not allowed to have it, or don't want a miserable future for it... there is nothing wrong with this. What is wrong with abortion is that every one views it as a free pass to killing something that we don't want. People really need to let it go, for people will be people, and people will make their own decisions based on their life. We only have one life to live, we might as well let the already living live it. We don't need to populate the world with more of us. It already has too much and by adding to the population we are only killing ourselves faster. Simple.

Wow that is a loooong answer. You honor me :D Exactly we are all organisms. At least up to a point, as you pointed out the first trimester. No harm done because you are not "killing" a human. If that was the case than they should shout about killing organisms. Which in turn would make it illegal to kill a mosquito :D And another great point you made, aborting in order to protect the child from being tortured in this life. I mean what is preferrable, to abort? or to bring a child into a world only for the poor thing to be tortured day in and day out, or end up in a trash can or somewhere in the woods or at a church's doorstep, growing up without parents etc. I mean that is selfish, i would say. And i think the parenting instinct wouldnt let one create a life that is part of one, only for that life to suffer. That's just wrong, on many levels, and selfish. Kementari. I like you. And i envy you because of the country you live in. I wish i was somewhere else than where i am right now. But not anywhere else. Canada, USA etc, one of those 2-5 countries in that niche :D Anyway. Have a great one. :)

My answers tend to be long when I am in a thinking mood :P Awe, I was lucky to be born into Canada. I don't think I would ever leave it. I like you too, you have some really good thoughts and answers :D. You too!