The Enforcer!!!!

Man inspired by God. all the best, urban

Did God tell you this or did man??? We both know the answer to that. God won't intimidate your choices. You are free to choose.

What will be lost if people are confined into thinking and acting according to one man's standards? We are here to make our own choices not have our choices controlled. God wants diversity. That's why God created diversity. Let's never forget that holy books were created by mankind. It is mankind who wants to control. God will teach regardless of your choices. With God, you will always be free to choose.

How can you have a system without rules, even natural ones?

Who needs rules? God's system works without them. On the other hand, mankind has rules simply because they have not learned how to run the world without them. Mankind has much to learn.

You are intelligent. Ponder the Possibilities. Reach beyond the petty ideas of mankind. Discover the door waiting for you to open. Why is freedom an important part of God's system? How can total freedom be given without that list of rules? The questions should be endless for the mind that hungers to know. Walk toward Intelligence. Walk toward God. It merely waits for you to Reach. It does all add up and much better than those stories. There is genius and high intelligence behind the entire system. You can discover this.

"Still, there are people in all religions who try to impose their will to enforce their religions on others." On what are you basing that statement? Man’s need to control involves politics, not religion. Other than Muslim countries, I don’t know a single nation that forces a religion on anyone, and the Muslim nations don’t totally do it either.

Are we taking nations or people being enforcers??

Yes, it seems the Middle East gives it's religion lots of power. It reminds me of Christianity in the middle ages. I'm sure in time they will learn and grow just as the Europeans did. In time, people's need and desire for freedom will guide the path. Still, there are people in all religions who try to impose their will to enforce their religions on others. Let's not forget mankind's need for control still exists all over the world. There are people trying to be Enforcers all over the world and in every country. It is really a People thing with people using religion as an excuse. Religion is a catalyst which brings so many of people's problems to the surface so they can be dealt with. After all, if you think you have God's backing, you can justify any action you take. It makes no difference the excuses people make to justify their actions. Their actions will return in time. Maybe there is a bit of wisdom in your holy book when it says: Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you. If you follow that, you can only be happy when your actions return.

Your proof criteria seems like blind faith in your holy book and religion to me. If God and not your beliefs lives in your heart, maybe it's time to listen to what God is saying.

their is nothing blind about my faith in God.... Once you discover the truth you will start to understand.. Believing is all you need to start a real relationship with God...I walk by faith not by sight... Maybe it is time you listen to what God is saying instead of making up what you want to be true.... He that is of God hears God's words: you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. My proof criteria seems like blind faith to you because you have not discovered the true God yet..You are still in darkness..You are still searching.....All you need to do is open up your heart and let God in.

Yes, I have discovered God and not as faith or a belief. Just like I know you exist, I know God exists. I do not allow the written words of mankind to convince me their beliefs are facts. I discover the facts. It does take much more work to discover God than merely memorizing and believing. I understand people sometimes go for the easy path and religion attempts to put God in a nice little package for people just to accept. What about the real truth? You should value that above all your beliefs. Religion also likes to put people in their club. Accepting does not make you anymore valuable to God. It only makes you more valuable to religion. Just like your children or your creations are yours, it can be no less for God. If you say otherwise, that makes your god a monster. The judge makes those who do not claim their children support them anyway. You can dance but you can not escape that fact.

So you think you need the structure of a bunch of rules because you would be lost without them. Who taught you this?? They have been teaching you this since birth. Stupid ideas???? You remind me of a story. A new man came to a small town. He seemed to be a bit strange to them. Everyone called the new guy crazy until one day a person in that town realized that there was Method to the Madness. Now,you can call me crazy, stupid and such. I'm happy regardless. On the other hand, look closely. just like the people in that small town, you might just discover method to all the madness. Change can be often unsettling. That should not mean it should be avoided. Sometimes change turns out to be a Very Good Thing. We should all stay open to new ideas, change, and growth for without these, we would all still be in the stone age with the cavemen.

You simply do not understand. I realize there are many pieces missing from your picture. To stay in the stone age would be stagnation. Everyone learns. We all move forward. Even moving slowly, we move forward. Even taking baby steps, one can walk across a world.

So what if we would still be in the stone age ? God loves us anyway, and we will get another chance. I don`t think you are stupid, i didn`t called you stupid. I called your ideas about God stupid because there is no logic in what you preach. Human logic must respect a set of rules in order to find the truth. Not every thing we learned since birth is wrong so that`s another silly thing you wrote.

Bluedoll, You pose lots of interesting questions. your quote:Do you think angels should be enforcers? My answer: God's system has no rules so there is no need of enforcers. your quote;Of course there will always be abusers My Answer: We choose our lessons with our choices. When our actions return, we learn. Intelligence always makes the right choices in the end. Always remember that there is more to learn than is possible in one mere lifetime. Count on many physical lives. your quote;A direction from God is where? My Answer: God places truth all around us. Each chooses their direction. On the other hand, God places the parameters in our life to help support the learning we have chosen for ourselves. your quote;Do words have power? If so what words? My Answer: We all have the power to choose what we value in this world. For any words to have power, it is us that gives those words power. your quote;Do biblical words or as bird123 has stated words in a holy book have any direction from God? My answer: There is truth in everything even though the truth might be that something isn't true. We must all remember that Who God is, is all around us. When holy books teach of Unconditional Love, they point to God. On the other hand, mankind points in all different directions according to what they want. That too teaches many lessons. There are a million lessons to learn around religion and none of them about God. Religion is a catalyst that brings so many people's problems to the surface so they can be dealt with. After all, when people think they have God's backing, they aren't afraid to show it all. AS for God's relationship with us, We are all God's children. God loves us all Unconditionally. God will educate All His children.

A guy named Jonah might have existed in the past at sometime. I do not know. Stories are creations of mankind. Mankind can tell a whale of a story at times. God has the best educational system in existence. We are not told our lessons. We LIVE our lessons. God places people and things around us so that the truth is around for us to discover it. God does not intimidate your choices in any way. That is part of free choice. As for communications with God, I'm sure that God talks with many people. People hear and see what they want to see. The encounter is corrupted by the teller's view unless they are open enough to hear and understand what God actually said. From my personal experience, it takes much work for one to actually realize all that has been said when God speaks. Ants can miss a lot if they are not careful or if they don't want things to be a certain way. The first thing God pointed out to me was that all of mankind carries such a narrow view of things. I do understand this and work on mine every day. For example: Look around you at this world and the people. How much do you really see? How much do you really understand. It does add up. People say this world is a mess. Now, if you really could see, you would say this world is a MASTERPIECE!!

Thank you for your response, I do appreciate all you said very much. I do have another question so I can understand your reasoning much more clearly. Then I would like to comment further. Do you believe the story of Jonah and the whale in the bible is true from the standpoint that, a) there really was a person called Jonah and it is not a fictional character? b) that God actually did communicate in some fashion to him? c) his purpose was to "enforce" a message though I think a better word choice would be to educate people to God's directives?

I think you are right. There are many many religions in the world and I must admit I am not up on many of them. I guess I am more familiar with the monotheists. Thanks for your much more diversified insight. It does seem funny that so many think rules are a must with God. Perhaps, they won't be so blind to your view.

Yes, it also hurts many many people along the way. Don't forget to help weaker people you come across in life who are trapped in the shadow of these enforcers. Teach them to be strong as God really wants and for them not to succumb to following blindly out of the fear enforcers use to intimidate. Walk with them just a bit til they can walk on their own again.

I think you are right that they are trying to play God. Indeed, Ego is a part of the equation. You are also right in that so many claim to know what God decides and only know God through the words of holy books written by mankind. It is questionable to say the least.

Does or is God really giving Orders??? I think not. God puts our freedom to choose first. Can there really be freedom with orders or the use of fear and intimidation?

Well, I think you already know what I'll say here. Satan does not exist and God does not use threats, fear or intimidation on His children. Mankind does.

I mean by orders , His law , he Almighty explain to the people His path , who choose it will win , who choose satan's way he will punishable , , it is simple , choose what you want .

Interesting indeed. It is really about people. Some people want and choose to be the Enforcer. Religion is truly a catalyst which brings so many of people's problems to the surface so they can be dealt with. Never think mankind is not capable of making this world a heaven. Think about it. It would only be a Choice that mankind could make. If everyone made it about others instead of themselves, look how the world would change. The funny thing is that everyone would end up with so much more than they would by scratching and clawing to get it all. Still, the world slowly moves toward that. Do not allow religion to corrupt your view. Step by step, mankind will learn and grow until they reach a point when they will understand. Time is what is needed.

Fewer people die of hunger. More people are educated. Access to knowledge increases through the internet. Cultures will come together through understanding rather than hate. The interaction through the internet has caused people in some countries to rally and take their freedom from dictators. These new freedoms in certain parts of the world will change neighboring people rallying them to demand their own freedom. Communist countries are discovering the economic power of allowing free enterprise into their countries. Slowly as they free their people, they will fear giving freedoms less. They will discover the power that comes with allowing all the ideas to be expressed in the world. Science and technology advance quicker than at any other time. Knowledge will solve all problems. The greater mankind grows in knowledge; the faster that growth of knowledge will be. Forget the news stories. Look up the sun is Shining!! Look for the goodness. nurture that!! The Adventure is just getting started. It is an exciting time to be alive. Everyone can be a part of making the world better.

I didn't noticed any good change in the process of world development. And it's not about religion here. Also, I don't talk about ages, I am just referring to the period of my life, which is not very long... I see how my freedom diminishes, I see that people invent problems and they start to repeat same political correct clichees. We have more tools, but this is the only better thing. For the rest, this world starts to look more and more each day with Huxley's "Brave New World". And neither tools are a totally good achievement. Everybody is so easily to control now, so our private area becomes smaller each day. And not only christians feel that an end should soon come. There are plenty of people from both left and right wing, who blame this world for becoming so... unpleasant for living. But sadly, most people instead of thinking, just silly agree when they hear about peace, rights, humanity. It's similar with the communist speech about how the world will be free in the final stage of the history. But until than, dictatorship is justified.

Yes, it is a People thing. The use of threats, fear and intimidation really does not work. Perhaps, our actions teach others better than anything we could ever say. People tend to watch better than they listen.

You can say that again. I am always having people tell me what they saw me doing when I went to work. What I ate, wore or didn't wear, and even that I never seemed to miss any work days and wanted to know what I took to stay well.