Is She Racist??
By Jennifer
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
Valdosta, Georgia
April 13, 2013 1:48pm CST
I am NOT trying to start a war here as I know most people think Oprah is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I am just asking if you have heard that she is racist too? I was reading about her and I found several things that said Oprah is racist, some people said she makes rude remarks on her show about white people. One remark she apparently made was, all of you white people in the audience wouldn't know anything about this dance... They said she makes unnecessary comments like that a lot...She did a racism episode on her show apparently, but only showed how African Americans are shown racism-no other races or cultures. How false is that? ALL cultures and races are shown racism, all the time-why didn't she include them on her show?
So, what is your thought on this?
If you have something rude toward me to say, do me a favor and don't. Don't respond if you cannot be mature and civilized. It is just a discussion...
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22 responses
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
13 Apr 13
it's funny you say this, but oprah has also been accused of being racist towards her own people. it was mostly many in the african american culture that felt this way. but, i could see how her remarks could be taken out of context. i don't think she is a racist. i don't think she see black, white, or anything else but money green. i don't like oprah and i have no respect for her just because she is rich and famous. but, i don't think she is racist.
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@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
13 Apr 13
I don't have much of an opinion on her. I have never seen her show and I don't know anything about her. But when I saw a discussion here that said so many good things about her I looked her up. I found TONS of things that said she is a racist and I was surprised by it because most people like her!
And your right, all she truly cares about is her money in my opinion also. That is how most famous people are...
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Apr 13
but again and sick people in Africa so she uses her money to do some good things. Its funny but really we all care about money as we all have to have it to pay our bills and eat but I realize what you both say. I do like her for what I have seen her do but again I think any of us who would get rich might br accused of that by others who do not even know us.
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
13 Apr 13
In all fairness if I had her kind of money I would be helping a lot more families than I can help right now. That is all I would do with the money besides pay my own bills. I wouldn't want the mansion or the brand new car, I would want to help people.
@robspeakman (1700)
•
13 Apr 13
This is a difficult subject to bring up. White people speaking out against anti-white racism is never taken seriously. Mention it to black people and they raise the issue of slavery...
That old chestnut - I think we all know and accept that it was wrong, but lets not forget that black folk were selling other black folk into slavery long before the whites started - We just globalised it.
I have actually had conversations were I have been told that Black people can not be racist and that racist can only be applied to whites.
I am aware of Oprah's racist comments from the past, she isn't the only one. Chris Rock has made a career from anti-white racism. Jamie Foxx is quite the racist too, in a speech last month he was heard to saw that Black people were the most talented and creative people in Hollywood.
Not wishing to be completely bleak - I will finish with a positive.
This is from an old interview with Morgan Freeman...
Mike Wallace: Black history month you find ridiculous. Why?
Morgan Freeman: You’re going to relegate my history to a month?
Mike Wallace: Oh, c’mon.
Morgan Freeman: What do you do with yours? Which month is white history month? Well, c’mon, tell me.
Mike Wallace: I’m Jewish.
Morgan Freeman: OK, which month is Jewish history month?
Mike Wallace: There isn’t one.
Morgan Freeman: Oh, oh. Why not? Do you want one?
Mike Wallace:No.
Morgan Freeman: No, I don’t either. I don’t want a black history month. Black history is American history.
Mike Wallace: How we gonna get rid of racism until…
Morgan Freeman: Stop talking about it. I’m going to stop calling you a white man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman.
Good discussion LMB
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@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
14 Apr 13
I agree sid, this is definitely worthy of a Best Response!
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
13 Apr 13
Yeah I worked at a daycare one time where the owner was racist. She told me she had to hire me because the state told her to hire one white person at least. She told me if it was up to her she wouldn't. I quit too shortly after because she did not treat me well at all...
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@BarBaraPrz (47274)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
13 Apr 13
Everybody's racist to some extent, in that we (generally) prefer "our own kind".
She is very popular, but personally, I've never subscribed to the gospel according to Oprah.
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@BarBaraPrz (47274)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
13 Apr 13
BTW, she's in Hamilton this weekend, and the local paper ran a special section just on her.
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
14 Apr 13
I have never felt that way either. Before my husband, I dated outside of my race, I never thought or felt any different about any other race... I did however, get told by other people that I should stick to my own kind. Too me I was, my own kind is a person which is who I was dating.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
13 Apr 13
Certain people believe 'Racism' is a one way street, it can only perpetrated by member of the majority race in the context of USA history of 'slavery'. But in reality, it is not exactly true. She may not think she can ever be 'racist' no matter what is coming out of her mouth in USA because of the enslavement of black African in Confederate states hundred years ago. Racist can come in many forms, size and colors like you said.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
18 Apr 13
That is right, many people don't like to accept the truth. But when you take into the consideration of 'racism' in the context of US history; usually people want to believe it is only practiced by one race only, but time change, and the elements that shape the dynamic of 'racism' had changed a lot over the years especially in USA after the passing of civil rights act and equal opportunity act by congress. Of course 'racism' can still be practiced on individual basic by any race and skin color now after the dismantling of official segregation and end of slavery, the playing field is level to a certain degree now among majority and minority American.
One thing you fail to understand is that Oprah is not just any ordinary Black woman, she is also one of the few richest black woman and among women in USA, she know that even if she uttered racially insensitive statement or remark to her mainly 'white' audiences in her shows, majority of them will not feel offended and will definitely find an excuse for her insensitive remark, after all, she is the owner of the shows and she has plenty of $$$ and free gifts and food/drinks given out to all her real time audiences, no one will take offense over her remark. They are well fed by her every time they attended her reality show in her studio, she can say whatever she like and in her mind, she can behave like a queen with impunity as her ton of money speak louder than everyone in USA, after all, she has 'race' card as well as a '$$$" card inside her palm.
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
16 Apr 13
Yeah many people are misinformed to think only one race can be racist. Racism happens in all races and cultures. Its a very sad fact. I really wish all racism would just stop but I know that's a lot to ask for...
@Rick1950 (1576)
• Lima, Peru
13 Apr 13
I think that human being is the same. It doesn't matter the colour. Of course there are differences and we can see it in olympic games -the best runner is a black man and the best swimmer is a white one. All races can have achievements on differents fields of life. Along History, different peoples have been leading humanity, like India, Persia, Egypt, Greece, Rome and now the West-culture. Then no race can claim to be the best. The best from people is inside themselves and in their values regarding their neighbour. :-)
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
14 Apr 13
Of course it doesn't matter the color of our skin! Not to me it doesn't, but some people are racist. In all races and cultures there are racist people out there. It should not be this way but it is...
@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
14 Apr 13
I was raised in a small town. I didn't know any black people that I can recall until I was five-and the first ones were our neighbors. Then I met one in my class two years later. And one more when we started being bussed (our elementary school closed). So I knew five total until I was in the fifth grade-and I remember how they usually sat at two tables together in the lunch room. I found out many years later that it had nothing negative-many of them were cousins or related in some other way!
I was told by a black woman once that in her view, we are the same underneath-we all bleed the same color. And I've tried to think that way, more than twenty years later. I think we're all different shades because God left some of his 'test models' out in the sun longer than others.
I think it's time to move beyond the color of our skin, or the different ways we worship (or not)-ultimately, we are here to live our lives; we probably shouldn't continue to hate because of our past. Maybe if everyone tried to be a little nicer to one another? I don't know what the answer is. Anyone's comments can be taken out of context, to make it be controversial-even Oprah.
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
13 Apr 13
I am not a big Oprah fan...never been. Or Dr. Phil or any of those...I do though find it hard to believe that she said something like that if it wasn't in jest...I don't think she would have stayed on tv for as long as she has if she was making rscist remarks!
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@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
14 Apr 13
I really don't know much about her, this is just what I read so I wanted to ask others opinions about it...
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Apr 13
hi loving mybabies I do know African Americans can be prone to racism just like we whites can , So it could be true about Oprah I have not seen her other show as downstairs whoever gets the control thing calls the shots. they do not listen to anything I would like so I stick to mylot and earn some money.yes she should have shown that allr aces can be racist too.
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@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
13 Apr 13
Yeah everyone is prone to racism. I have been through it myself actually. I worked at a daycare and the owner told me she only hired me because she had to have one white person working for her, and if it was up to her she would not hire a white person! I quit shortly after because I was not treated well there at all. So I do know first hand, racism is aimed at all people.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
13 Apr 13
ive watched her for years and have often thought the same thing. yet then i will see her hugging and helping a white person so think maybe im wrong. tho she does seem to he;p blacks a whole lot more. and yes its true. ive seen racists in all different ethnics.
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
14 Apr 13
Yeah I don't watch her show or anything but I was surprised when I read that. Just because most people love her. I have seen racists in all ethnics as well.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
14 Apr 13
Didn't read all the comments, so I don't know if I'm just repeating something someone else has said. But anyway...
This is something that, to me, isn't racIST, but racIAL.
I've got my head torn off for this before, but I'm not too worried about that.
There seems to be this incredibly ironic solidarity movement in America amongst minority groups, with much of the black population paving the way. Obviously that's not to say "all" or anything like that, but there's racial inequality that we all condone when it comes to this stuff, giving a pass to one race which would have members of another race shunned. I mean, can you imagine if it was Rachel Ray saying "all of you black people in the audience wouldn't know anything about this"?
I hear it every single day, a black person says or implies that a white person doesn't know anything about X, or can't understand Y, etc, because it's basically a "black thing."
Yeah. I don't find it to be racism. I just find it to be an ironic, borderline pitiful stance taken by some that they are eager to be different and special and in tune with a different culture and such than everybody else.
Here's another instance where I can't help but sound political. But a good example can be found in Jay-Z and Beyonce's recent Cuba trip. They're torn to shreds in conservative media because the couple is seen as holding communist values up on a pedestal. That's not the reason why they made the trip, however. Cubans = Latino = minority = not white = part of this oppressed-by-whitey culture that no one else can understand. They could have gone to numerous other nations if they wanted to view instances of socialism/communism. But there's this cultural sense of solidarity amongst some minorities, especially mainstream minorities, where there's supposedly parity in their lives that's different than a white person's, a Native American's, or an Asian's life.
I catch flak a lot when I have these discussions. I've been shouted at quite a few times that "you don't know what it's like to be black!" And my reply: Neither do you!
Might sound strange, but I also don't know what it's like to be white. A skin tone is a skin tone. And, bottom line, nobody knows what it's like to be anybody else based on such an extremely trivial happenstance of birth.
If you're speaking about being poor, or being abused, or different factors which narrow the scope, then okay. Getting closer! But you really only know what it's like to be yourself -- that's it. Being a certain skin tone living in Virginia doesn't mean you have ESP with someone sharing that skin tone living in Nebraska. It's supernatural hogwash when it's put like that. Experiences can be similar, especially for the members of certain groups who were oppressed, but it's the 2000s in the freest nation on the planet. Sorry, but you're not experiencing telepathy, and, no, ancestors' spirits don't inhabit your body.
So if anyone wants to drop the "All of you white people in the audience..." line, it's ridiculous. Not only is it insulting to white people, but it's insulting to black people. She's assuming that all black people are alike. All non-whites are alike. All non-whites know the dance? Ridonkulous.
Every person can be a racist, but "racism" in America has become a term to specifically mean white people vs. everyone else. Oprah and others of her ilk want it both ways.
And our culture happily provides it both ways to save the strife.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
16 Apr 13
Maybe. And if it were someone else, I may be inclined to agree with you.
Not that I do much on conspiracy fodder, but Jay-Z is one of those Che-worshiping hip-hop artists whose political stance is very "revolutionary" and "people"-oriented, as in large, social-style government. And, of course, I don't think he's going to Laos or Bulgaria or the Czech Republic.
Most definitely could be that he just wants to visit a beautiful country. But I happen to think it's more to do with the forced, put-on solidarity hogwash.
@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
23 Apr 13
I personally don't like Oprah and I don't know many people who do, black or white. She is a waste and I do not find her interesting, nor do I find her a good interviewer. She did not create anything. Remember, Phil Donahue was the first one to have a show like that. And he never got the popularity she did. As for her being racist, well, I have never heard that one before. But maybe she is. Who really cares, after all, to me she is not even on my radar.
@kareemadivina (1230)
• Philippines
14 Apr 13
I have seen some episodes of Oprah show,but I haven't noticed any racism.If she is a racist, I could not blame her because she had been a victim of racism herself.I heard that during her childhood she was not allowed to go inside her grandmother's employer house just because she is black.Childhood experiences could mostly influence of who we become as an adult.
You're right,racism does not apply only for black people.I had seen 1 TV program that tackles about racism of white people in Africa and how they struggle with their lives.Each race may have a common knowledge or misconception against 1 race and we are just noticing and reacting to it the negative ones.
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@Angelpink (4034)
• Philippines
14 Apr 13
All of us have a little of racism inside our heart. Agree with me or not we favor more of race than other race , we are proud of our tribe than other tribes , we feel more superior than other tribe. Are those not a gesture of a racist ? There is a portion of Oprah that speaks a gesture of being a racist , all of us i guess. We love our blood line , our tribe and we are proud of it !
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
14 Apr 13
I have to agree with that. And it's not our fault. Hundreds of thousands of years of actually being in tribes with people who looked just like us cannot be erased by a few hundred years strewn together in a variety pack.
I wouldn't say we feel a stronger connection with members of our own race, as in some voodoo telepathic type stuff, but there is a stronger sense of safety and comfort amongst individuals who look and act how we look and act. It's about safety in a social dynamic.
But, for me, the issue isn't one of feeling a closer kinship to individuals resembling us. It's that certain people get a free pass acting out on it simply because of their skin tone.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
14 Apr 13
I couldn't say with any real honesty anything about that. I would have to see the show. I can't imagine her saying something like that on National TV and not having it be big huge news unless it was people taking things out of context. I mean, was the dance an old dance from back in the slavery days? If so, such a statement might be very accurate. Was her racism show about how black people were treated back in the day rather than racism in general?
I really have only seen a couple of her shows and those mainly because of the guests she has had on. I have no real opinion of Oprah as a person but her voice and the way she talks, well, I just can't stand listening to her.
@4ofmyown (1119)
• United States
19 Apr 13
I have heard her make remarks like that...referring to some of the audience members as white people. I guess I never thought of it as being racist but I guess to some I could see how it could be perceived as racist.
I have heard that she can be a very difficult person to work for and expects borderline perfection. I have watched some of her shows since she "retired" and have noticed that she doesn't have very many men working for her. I know she is very "I am woman, hear me roar" but wouldn't that be somewhat sexist to hire mostly women....just wondering...not trying to change the subject :)
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
17 Apr 13
I'm not a big Oprah-fan, and her songs (she's a singer, right?).
But I don't think remarks like that could be categorized as being racist. I know that in our politically-correct world that we live in right now, we should be careful about everything we say as it could be viewed as something else. Especially for her as she is in the limelight.
Oh wait! Is she an dancer?
@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
16 Apr 13
I did not know that she's a racist. I have seen her show too in our cable channel but, I am not always watching it. Even though I am not a fans of Oprah, it is obvious that she's famous.
He he he Maybe she had this bad experience from past about white people and so, she acted that way or she thought that they are better than white people. It is difficult to judge if she's doing it intentionally or not.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
15 Apr 13
I have seen episodes of Oprah where she has mentioned those comments directed to "white people". But I never realized it to be in a negative way. Maybe because when racism is talked about, what goes into my head is pertaining to people of colored skin.
I see your point. Yeah! Those comments could pertain to being a racist, but not given that much attention (by me).
@ShyBear88 (59347)
• Sterling, Virginia
14 Apr 13
I don't like Oprha.i don't watch the women either. There is just something about her that I just don't like. I don't know if she is resist or not. She might be or that's just he she sounds. A person cand sound like a thug nd not be. Thug.