Boston Marathon Bomber Under Terrorist Watchlist?
By Artemeis
@artemeis (4194)
China
April 27, 2013 5:56am CST
Following the news of the Boston Marathon bombing, I have to say that I am quite surprise to learn that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the dead suspect in the Boston marathon bombings was added to a U.S. government terrorism database about 18 months before the attacks.
It is reported that since 2011, Russia had already been in contact with CIA of the deceased suspect and CIA had placed him under the terrorist watchlist. After 9/11, I thought that these information would be treated with urgency and utmost seriousness to prevent a successful attack. Disappointingly, he had managed to slip through the system and carried out the attack. It is very sad because our country lost a good girl in that attack Lu, Lingzi.
How could this be possible? Haven't these agencies learned enough? Or worse, they are co-conspirators in this attack? What do you think?
Reference:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-marathon-student-victim/index.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314416/CIA-knew-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-months-Boston-bombing-terrorist-watchlist.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10022299/Boston-bombs-Former-US-terror-official-questions-Tsarnaev-intelligence-response.html
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4 responses
@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
27 Apr 13
Why does it surprise you that he was added to a suspected terrorist database? Russia notified the US, but we (the USA) did not find enough evidence to start an active investigation.
I wasn't surprised to hear that the mother has been added to the database-she insisted her sons were innocent, and that they were framed. The father isn't coming here to aid in the investigation, which it quite significant.
I wouldn't go so far as to accuse the CIA or the FBI of being conspirators; this was an attack with yet another method not yet seen. Those that want to cause harm to someone else is already coming up with yet another method-we won't know until it happens.
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
27 Apr 13
Just to clarify things here.
I am not accusing the CIA or the FBI of anything but I felt that CIA with the wealth of information does not act upon their source is wrong and I am sorry but I don't think people will buy that these agencies did not find enough evidence to start active investigations. Like 9/11, I believe it was the same thing where no active investigations were conducted until the fatal strike.
I can understand your concerns but I believe that investigations can still be conducted in the background which should be the case than an active and open one. Besides, aren't these agencies working to prevent all kinds and types of attack both foreign and domestic?
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@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
27 Apr 13
The 9/11 attacks go back a lot further than most people realize. Bin Laden came under scrutiny after the first attacks on the WTC, nearly ten years earlier. I'm sure that personnel changed over time, not to mention that the US got complacent. I saw a documentary where people feel that all of this is payback stemming from the mid-80s, when we helped Middle East countries defend against Russia, specifically Afghanistan. We left and their country was a mess-but the agreement didn't involved rebuilding their country.
There are so many people that speak out against the US, but how are we to determine what's credible or not? Perhaps a global information network is in order.
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
27 Apr 13
I am sure with many countries working together with America, a global information network already exist. Back some time ago, I read about a book on Mossad and it revealed that there is already such an intelligence network where these countries share vital information on sleeper cells and terrorist groups.
Also, there were other real life stories I read about how the CIA is known to be "careless" with their job which has gotten American troops killed. I know where you are coming from but if this agency repeatedly does not take their jobs seriously and like you said complacent then people will end up getting killed and America will be doing the chasing down of whoever is responsible. To me, prevention is better than letting an attack take place because there are lives involved.
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@lampar (7584)
• United States
27 Apr 13
Actually federal agents talked to him a year ago, but came to the conclusion he posed no threat to USA. May be federal government still not learn enough how to handle terrorism suspect properly even after 9/11, it is quite mind boggling. The under wear bomber from Nigeria is also under terrorist watch list, and is listed in no fly list; but he managed to go on board airplane headed toward USA and trigger his IED hidden under his panty in mid air flight. It shows that the federal agents are not taking the terrorism threat seriously as you like to believe, may be they are incompetent or complacent after several years had passed without major terrorism take place inside USA, not necessary mean that they are co-conspirator in the attack.
@artemeis (4194)
• China
27 Apr 13
I agree with you that perhaps the agency in question is not taking their job seriously and in the case of the underwear bomber it was an inter-agency failure. I dare not speculate that security agencies have still not learned or have enough experience to handle terrorism because there will cause for concern and a big laugh from the other side.
These mistakes cost lives and I hope that they can pull their act together and fast here.
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@lampar (7584)
• United States
28 Apr 13
The various federal security agencies are so scr*w up they probably don't even realized. Each has their own way of doing thing and refuse to share intelligence and information with the other, hoping to claim credit for itself to prevent terrorism from taking place. The first tip off is from Russian to the FBI several years ago, after that, they decided to have a chat with this terror suspect and then decided he is no threat after a few hours of talking to him due to the fact that he is a devout Muslim of ethnic Chechnya, even though his parent are on KGB's Chechnya's terrorist watch list, where they pose no threat to US security. After the Russian security agency was told nothing suspicious about the family and son, they requested the CIA to look into this suspect again, but again, CIA operative in charged of investigation came out with the same conclusion, he is not a threat to USA and is a devout Muslim and so with all members of his family, they are incapable of violent and terror, let alone is a security threat to USA. Obviously they are either don't take the warning seriously, or this terrorist is extremely charming to a point he is able to sweat talk the agents in charged into believing him without any doubt, they don't even tail him later on and trusted him fully. It is a total whack out job by both agencies on this one, they scre* up big time.
@celticeagle (166761)
• Boise, Idaho
28 Apr 13
I think that the CIA has a history of not doing things right. And I have heard of this type of thing happening before. After the fact. I am very disappointed also. The country lost three not just one 'good girl' in that attack. I really think that the CIA needs to be trashed and another system come into being.
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
28 Apr 13
It is very disappointing and sad indeed when we learn news like these. These unnecessary deaths could have been avoided if CIA had done their job seriously. My heart goes out to the family of the 3 year old, I always have something for young children and I hope the relevant people in that agency would be taken to task including the head of the agency for such poor leadership.
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@celticeagle (166761)
• Boise, Idaho
28 Apr 13
I wonder how much has to happen before there are some changes are made in the CIA? This isn't the first time.
@amila37796 (3)
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28 Apr 13
It is time to remove terrorism from world, like sri lanka did past years.
They have totaly stoped 30 year terrorism, thank for presiden mahinda rajapakshe along with general sarath fonseka, So USA, it is time no chances,
Give the best shot
Good LUCK
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@teotimoponcerosacena (1552)
• Philippines
27 Apr 13
The fact is, it always inevitable that no matter how good you are on intelligence and in security there is always a loopholes. The govt. focused on everything while these terrorist focused on one thing, that is " Your weakness "
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
27 Apr 13
I understand about the loopholes but I believe this is a failure to act upon a source which is the problem.
It is quite similar to the pre 9/11 intelligence where again the failure to act that allowed the terrorists to slip through and cause an attack on their own country.
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