Where Did "Star Trek" Think of 'Ships Having Shields?'

Star WARS didn't have `em!
@mythociate (21432)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
August 15, 2015 12:28pm CST
With their 'monarch of the sea' boat-jargon, how did they think-up "Shields on Ships"?
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@zzzgeok (58)
• United States
15 Aug 15
I think it was probably thought of eons ago looking for a way to prevent a sneak attack from hostile ships at sea, and has been carried over to today's modern defensive capabilities, such as radar, missiles and other types of defense systems used on ships today. Probably more a product of not necessarily aggressive retaliation against such things as mines, space debris, and meteors and such, as well as attacks from other ships. I would think it would be safe to assume, if the Earth has ships capable of exploring space other, possibly more malevolent species may just as well have spaceships, at least as progressive as our own, and possibly even more advanced. It would prevent panic mode, or even utter destruction at the hands of an aggressive or even more panicky crew of another ship. Thus countering the need to be the first one to fire upon another vessel from fear.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
16 Aug 15
We're not really exploring space, we haven't even finished exploring our solar system. We have ships leaving the solar system for outer space but we wont' be able to contact them, and so we are still not exploring and we won't know what those ships encounter. Space is too vast. We can't get anywhere, it's doubtful that any other species could, either, even if they did exist.
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
17 Aug 15
@zzzgeok But why didn't boats have shield-like coverings back when we believed that 'things in the water' were malevolent species?
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• United States
16 Aug 15
@Rollo1 Many supposedly scholarly people are trying to contact alien life by broadcasting messages into outer space, to areas well beyond our solar system. I don't think that is such a good idea. If they are able to pick up our signals, and they have the technology to track our signal and possibly even travel to our world. They would be so much more advanced technologically, that they could easily dominate or destroy us. Just because we haven't found life, does not mean it is not out there. I think we as a species would have to be pretty small minded to think we are the only beings alive in the universe when you consider all the planets there are. Not all, but most of the stars we see are suns, surrounded by planets. I'd have to think there are a number of them that support life. Perhaps sentient beings who would like nothing better than to enslave a species like us, who overstepped our reach.
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@flpoolbum (2978)
• United States
18 Aug 15
Necessity would have been the driving force behind any engineer designing a vehicle for space travel. Astroids and other debris in space is a major consideration. In space, it's not like they can call AAA, or pull to the nearest gas station if damage occurs.
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@flpoolbum (2978)
• United States
19 Aug 15
@mythociate "Necessity is the mother of invention!"
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
19 Aug 15
@flpoolbum Then 'how did they invent the necessity?'
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
18 Aug 15
I'm thinking that--if 'space debris' were the problem--they would have focused on building the hull out of stronger materials. No, I think it's because SOMEBODY invented a plasma-type material that DESTROYED any material it came into contact with; and so they needed to 'fight fire with fire' (using the same type of material to STOP the plasma-material before it touched the ship's hull).
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
15 Aug 15
What I find interesting is how science is working on all the things we used to see on Star Trek - cloaking, teleportation, tractor beams, warp drives. It's so odd to hear these things being discussed as research topics. Life truly does imitate art.
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• United States
15 Aug 15
Much of what is science reality today, started as science fiction in the minds of such people as Jules Verne, and other writers and storytellers. I also believe that a mind that looks forward is able to see things that may come to pass. Much of this is pure logic. Another topic explored to quite a degree on Star Trek, by Mr Spock.
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
19 Aug 15
@zzzgeok I liked Data's angle on it more. In a way, he (and his brother Lore) were started as NOTHING BUT logic. And STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION was basically the story of 'a robot's journey into human-hood'---wasn't the end of one of the recent STAR TREK movies (the 'next generation' of the pre-reboot) one in which Data became 'fully human' (replaced by a time-traveling, rediscovered version of his hardware) - almost the way Robin Williams' BICENTENNIAL MAN did (by dying)?
• United States
21 Aug 15
@mythociate I think so. Although I must admit I am not as familiar with TNG. Star Trek with Kirk and Bones and Spock were the ones that I followed fairly deep. TNG and the other offshoots like Deep Space 9 were more of just a catch if I can, but no biggie if I missed. Probably more due to the fact of my age. Star Trek launched the coming of age capture of what turned out to be Geekdom, but was cool at the time. I don't know all the episodes by heart or anything, but I was an avid watcher of the program. I guess I turned out to be a Geek around the edges, but not completely geeky. And, yes, I do like to play chess. But I haven't played in a number of years.
• Preston, England
3 Sep 15
The idea goes back way before Star Trek, to the works of E E Doc Smith in the 1920's such as the Lensmen stories. The earliest use in films was in The War Of The Worlds (1953) as The Martians use shields against human weapons including a nuclear bomb.
@Ronrybs (19588)
• London, England
6 Mar 16
I thought of Lensmen and the '53 version of war of the worlds, as well.
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