Learning to read and write cursive is important.
By savak03
@savak03 (6684)
United States
September 8, 2015 11:29pm CST
Since computers have taken over the classrooms the school system here has begun to phase out teaching students how to write in cursive. There are some of us who learned to read and write old school that think that is a big mistake. Most of America's historical documents are written in cursive. If they do not teach this generation how to read it those documents will be useless when the older generations die out.
That means that no one will be able to read the original documents so anyone who wants to change the wording or the laws could, with a few keystrokes change our entire history.
People who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.
Let's rise up and let the school system know that we want our children to be able to read these documents for themselves. They may need to know what these documents say in order to preserve their freedom.
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16 responses
@kataomoi (708)
• Japan
9 Sep 15
I honestly don't see what the problem is. I see your point, but how many people actually read the original documents on a regular basis? Those documents have already been re-written (officially or inofficially) into block print so that won't be a problem for the future generation.
I'm not saying cursive is useless. It's always nice to know more. I just wouldn't say it's "important" when no one uses it. Even if we taught it to the kids in school, they'll eventually forget it because cursive isn't being used.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
11 Sep 15
There were certain things they tried to teach us in math that I thought I would never use. I was going to be a bookkeeper after all so I figured if it didn't have to do with money why learn it. Fortunately I had one teacher who was able to explain to me that some of this abstract math would be used in bookkeeping. I was glad she did because the first job I applied for they tested me and a lot of the questions they asked had nothing to do with money.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
9 Sep 15
I think that it's important to have a readable, yet distinctive handwriting which one can write fairly quickly. I'm not a big fan of cursive as it was taught in the United States. I would favour the style which is sometimes called Italic Handwriting or Chancery Cursive because, taught properly, it is as quick to write as American Cursive and, since it closely resembles printed text (except for 'a' and 'g'), is easier for others to read. The ligatures ('joins') are also fewer in number and more logical.
I don't agree with your argument that teaching cursive will protect legal or historical documents or make them more accessible in any way. Those who need to read the originals will quickly learn to read the particular handwriting they use (which may not be 'cursive' as it is taught today) and, in any case, most important documents will have already been transcribed.
What I do believe strongly is that developing a personal handwriting style is very important for hand-eye coordination and being able to take readable notes by hand (in lectures, for example) improves one's retention of information - even if one does not read the notes afterwards - by a surprising amount (I think that it is something like 40%).
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
10 Sep 15
@Beatburn Just like the dumbing down of the inclusion of art and music in the curriculum, the teaching of writing may not seem to have much relevance in today's world but children are the poorer in many ways if they aren't given the chance and encouragement to do something creative.
The problem is that art and music are still considered to be 'hobbies' and 'non-essentials' by many educationalists, even though very many studies have proved that children exposed in the correct way to this kind of creative activity have much better results in the more 'essential' subjects.
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@MKAlubs (455)
• United States
9 Sep 15
Your 3rd paragraph made some good points. I can see where cursive & cursive derivatives can be a quick way to take notes provided you can read your own writing. But if you're writing something for someone else to be read it's always best to print. The little bit of Chancery Cursive that you showed was rather difficult & slow to read & there were a few words I could not decipher but if it's just notes to yourself there's nothing wrong with it. A reader shouldn't have to closely inspect every word to try to figure out what it is. That's irritating. Print it so I can read it at normal speed. It's not just about speed of writing but also about speed of reading.
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@Rosekitty (19368)
• San Marcos, Texas
9 Sep 15
hahah..we wrote similar discussions..I too feel this is horrible to take cursive away....
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@TiarasOceanView (70022)
• United States
9 Sep 15
Yes I believe it is too. It is so traditional to me I cannot bear the thought of it going into the black hole.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
11 Sep 15
There is nothing wrong with adaptation. My cursive is a combination of American cursive and the kind Owlwings demonstrated above. It works for me and each one should find what works for them. I would hate to think we are throwing away a skill we might need later on.
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@Namanjindal13 (340)
• Delhi, India
9 Sep 15
In India also cursive is still taught
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
14 Sep 15
You are not the first person that has stated this, but fortunately I have not encountered it yet. Around here, students are still learning cursive as I believe that they should be. I realize that more and more things are becoming electronic, but I do not think that makes cursive writing obsolete and not worth teaching or learning.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
15 Sep 15
@purplealabaster You are right. Ultimately it is our responsibility to see that our children are educated so if the school system is failing in some point we have to make up the difference.
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
15 Sep 15
@savak03 I don't know about the whole "Common Core" curriculum and whether or not it is/will be a part of that. If so, then it should be done across the nation, which means that cursive will be brought back in the schools that have gotten rid of it. If not, then I guess that we will have to teach our children cursive, and hopefully we have good enough handwriting to do the job. As it stands, though, I know that our school is still teaching it, which is a good sign.
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@Shine10Mathew (153)
• India
9 Sep 15
I regret for my mistake of never actually working on my handwriting. That is why today I have an ugly scrawl for a handwriting today that resembles more like a trampled upon centipede. But still your point about historic documents is a bit improbable. Its almost like blaming people like me for destroying Historical documents, and it makes me sad. Just kidding!!
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
11 Sep 15
I never said anyone would destroy the documents. I just said if no one could read them they would be useless. Hopefully, there will always be someone who thinks it important to read and write cursive. There are other parts of history than these documents that have meaning for many, that are written in cursive. Think of all the love letters that were during the war. Perhaps these boys didn't return from the war and those letters are all his descendants have of him. Also the original copies of some of the great literary works like Shakespeare were most likely written in cursive. And we may yet unearth documents in archeologically digs that are written in cursive. I just think it is a skill we should not throw away so lightly.
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@Carmelanirel2 (8084)
• United States
1 Oct 15
I'm totally against the schools not teaching it. I think my son and maybe one other student, are the only ones who can read and write cursive.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
10 Oct 15
@Carmelanirel2 Of course you must both be willing to take on the challenge but what is his reason for not wanting to do it?
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@Carmelanirel2 (8084)
• United States
4 Oct 15
@savak03 I would like to home school my son, but my husband isn't in agreement.
@sprinklesare4winners (531)
• Avenel, New Jersey
9 Sep 15
i honestly just dont understand how someone wouldnt be able to read cursive , even if they cant write it. i mean,to me it doesnt LOOK that different (except for really old-timey documents like you said lol) it seems learning to write in it is more difficult than reading it. thats my take anyway.
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@sprinklesare4winners (531)
• Avenel, New Jersey
9 Sep 15
@MKAlubs ahhh i see what you mean now. unfortunately ive seen handwriting just as awful in non-cursive lol hand-written police reports are just terrible.. i have to read them in my profession and theyre usually illegible, and never written in cursive.
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@MKAlubs (455)
• United States
9 Sep 15
@sprinklesare4winners - That's a very good point. I always print everything that I write & never use cursive but sometimes I find myself just going too fast & the next thing I know it's starting to look like chicken scratch. I think people just don't write with their hands anymore & our writing abilities are atrophying. Plus we're always in such a hurry. Plus, a lot of us are sloppy. Maybe if everyone spent half an hour a week slowly & deliberately writing cursive then all of our writing would get better and so would our reading. I also used to read a lot of handwritten documents & while the cursive ones were almost all illegible, a lot of the hand-printed ones were, too. I've met some very intelligent people whose writing looks like it was produced by a 3rd grader. With the pervasiveness of keyboards and smart phones, I hope it doesn't get worse.
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@MKAlubs (455)
• United States
9 Sep 15
Learning to write cursive is easy. Reading people's awful chicken scrawl is what is difficult. It's not just doctors who have illegible cursive handwriting. I would say that at least 80% of people's cursive handwriting is illegible. If everyone wrote it as they were taught and it was all the same then it might be a little more readable. But people's cursive handwriting seems to deteriorate with time, plus people create their own styles add their own distinctive curlycues and such & eventually no one can decipher it except the person who wrote it. For me, it's far more important for what someone writes to be read than to be all cutesy & artsy & squiggly & fancy...... or just a bunch of squiggly lines. What's the point of writing something if it's almost impossible to read? It's not cursive itself that is so bad. It's the fact that most everyone's cursive is just terrible and illegible.
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@MKAlubs (455)
• United States
9 Sep 15
I have always abhorred cursive. Everyone's cursive handwriting is different and 90% of it is impossible to read. When I am writing with a pen I never use cursive. I always print so that whoever reads it can actually read it. Any old historic document that was written in cursive is now available to read in print so I'm not sure what the problem is. I think there is more danger of historic documents being misread when they are in cursive since cursive is so darn hard to decipher and read. I'm in favor of doing away with cursive.I don't see the point of it. The point of writing something is for it to be read. Printing accomplishes this while cursive makes it almost impossible. On one job I had years ago employees had to leave handwritten notes for other employees who came in after them. Some of them wrote in cursive & their notes could usually not be read so employees had to call up the other employees to find out what they were trying to say in their notes. I finally forbid anyone from writing their notes in cursive, insisting that everyone print their notes. What was once a daily problem immediately went away. The problem is that everyone writes cursive in their own way and it is almost always sloppy and unreadable. I'm in favor of doing away with it.
@savak03 (6684)
• United States
11 Sep 15
I'm sorry you feel that way. I think it is important to try to understand the communication of others no matter what form it comes in. I realize some people don't write well. Doctors are a prime example. But with a little effort you could get used to their style and be able to decipher what they are trying to say. Surely some of the words are readable and you could make out the rest from the context. Expecting eveyone to write the way you want them to is like expecting everyone to speak English because you do.
@savak03 (6684)
• United States
15 Sep 15
@rakski There is no doubt that technology is helpful but we could come to rely on it too much. Then what would we do if we no longer had it. My daughter, for instance has her whole life in her phone. She documents her life there. All her sign on names and passwords are stored in it. The pictures of her kids, and her music playlist as well as any fact she wants to remember are placed in the phone. If she lost that phone or it got broken she would lose everything,
@ria1606roy (2797)
• Kolkata, India
4 Oct 15
Cursive is an important part of the human legacy, so it should never be stopped teaching. Children should be encouraged to write in cursive. However, whatever we read online or in books, it has got to leave an impact so cursive may become uncommon. But I don't believe it will die out. There are still plenty of people out there who writes in cursive and there will be plenty still in the future. A way of writing cannot be changed that easily.