Foreign Language?

Glottochronology
By pgn
@pgntwo (22408)
Derry, Northern Ireland
October 4, 2015 10:30am CST
A discussion on another thread here on myLot started me wondering: How close are we, linguistically-speaking? There is a school of though that says all language comes from a common root. Stories abound, regardless of whether you believe in the biblical (Adam and Eve, Noah, the Tower of Babel) or the scientific (inheritance, a common ancestor, survival of the fittest) postulations. Glottochronology is a field of language taxonomy that aims to show when a modern language might have split-off from the common root. Why do objects in one language possess male, female and neuter genders, while the same objects in another language consist of just male and female, and yet a third lumps everything that is inanimate into a single neuter gender? I found a nice graphic that shows one classification of how some of the languages we hear today may have evolved from a common mother tongue, the Proto-Indo-European language. The languages I had in mind above are German, Italian and English. Clicking on the picture will let you inspect it more closely. Perhaps the stories are wrong - all the languages are merging into a single monoglot tongue, a little like the language used in the film Blade Runner, based on a story by Philip K Dick.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
5 Oct 15
English has a huge amount of diversity, however, as we readily borrow from other languages and not all other languages are very comfortable with borrowing from us. Did they study languages of the New World? Native American languages, languages of the tribes in the rainforest? I don't see them represented.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
5 Oct 15
@pgntwo Yes, but what language family is Algonquian. The natives in this part of the country were quite different from the plains tribes. They had land boundaries, trading camps, and the languages of all the tribes here are similar. But I wondered if the languages of plains tribes differed in origin. Many things and places around here bear original native names.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
5 Oct 15
That's an interesting point. I shall have to see what my Encyclopedia of Language has to say about the New World languages, a task for a quiet few minutes later.
@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
5 Oct 15
Your part of the world, @Rollo1, appears to be predominantly Algonquian with a bit of Macro-Siouan. Joseph Greenberg is the cunning linguist who deciphered that, assuming he's still around - he was born in 1915.
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@allknowing (136540)
• India
6 Oct 15
Sanskrit is the base for many languages.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
6 Oct 15
Another interesting spin on language development and origins.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
4 Oct 15
Man languages share traceable mutual origins, such as the Latin based languages of Spanish and Italian. There are also many words that have ben borrowed from other languages often because equivalent words did not exist in one of them. Examples such as the English language have some shared origins with Scandinavian, Germanic and Latin languages, along with a vast number of words that have been adopted from other languages over the centuries. Despite the lack of similarity and variation o many modern languages, it is not unreasonable to consider that they may have the same origin millennia ago. Despite the already quoted similarity between Italian and Spanish, they have now both drifted far enough away from Latin to have a also have vast differences. The real crux of this would depend on whether language developed prior to mankind spreading to distant regions or before they expanded. As this is a question that e cannot answer, we can only speculate.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
4 Oct 15
@pgntwo The list of origins and current languages does seem a little simplistic, but also gives a decent insight to he direction of linguistic evolution.
@skysnap (20153)
4 Oct 15
I always wanted to learn spanish. It is on my list of learning things. That being said I wonder how some of the people are learning new language and manage their normal life without much practicing into it.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
4 Oct 15
Have you looked at the method mentioned at the link here:
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@skysnap (20153)
4 Oct 15
@pgntwo I didn't. I will check it out :)
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
4 Oct 15
Considering that Brits and Americans barely understand each other, I think common language doesn't always 'feel' all that common.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
4 Oct 15
The unspoken elements of communication can convey a lot more than what someone is actually saying... I wish I could understand this aspect of communication as well as some people that I know!
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
5 Oct 15
@boiboing A B&B, not in the US, surely? That's got to be an interesting experience...
@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
5 Oct 15
@pgntwo I wish you were here to try to make sense of the guy at the B&B. We don't have a clue what he's telling us to do.
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@Hannihar (130218)
• Israel
30 Mar 18
@pgntwo pgn, thank you for sharing that with us.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
30 Mar 18
You're welcome! That's an old one, prompted by something I'd been reading somewhere, no doubt.
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@Hannihar (130218)
• Israel
1 Apr 18
@pgntwo That is ok pgn.
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9 Oct 15
i can sometimes figure other languages out, but others not a t all
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@Vivenda (583)
• Portsmouth, England
19 Nov 15
It's always amused me that "res" (the Latin word for "thing") is feminine!
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• India
24 Jan 16
According to the Bible, I believe, from the time of Adam to the construction of Babel tower all people might have spoken one common language(this period may be around 2000 years). Unfortunately, we don't know what was that language. And also, what was the language God used to communicate with people -- till the day of confusion that took place while building the tower at Babel -- is unknown. Biblically speaking, diverse languages came to existence after the flood of Noah, which means around 4000 B.C. According to the linguistic researchers, the oldest language is of Indo-European origin.
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