Beef constroversy ..lynching and killing?

It is weird, isn't it?

Religion A worships cow. Religion B does not. Religion A does not like Religion B, because Religion B once ruled religion A. Religion A supports Political Party A. Now that political party A has won the elections, Religion A thinks it has rights to dictate its terms on Religion B as well. They don't pick on rich. They pick on the poor because poor can't do much. Sick, sick, sick.

@vandana7 I am afraid, this is over-simplification! This rage has been caused by unjust appeasement policy of successive Governments, smuggling of cows, selective reporting of biased and partial media and various other socio-economic equations peculiar in that particular region. Lets hope sanity returns (for both sides).

@vandana7 Thanks. I looked it up as well and found this interesting commentary:

I am grieving the loss of life of a fellow Indian.

There are a bunch of retards who think that government should be doing that.

@vandana7 LOL retards ??they want to make the people imbeciles.

@sofssu Tell me about it.

Even Hitler may not have had such influence.

@vandana7 I believe that he has too much influence and I cannot believe that the people followed him.

@vandana7 It is weird, I cannot understand how people cannot understand that the best is to be tolerant and to be friends. Let us offer a better world for future generations. With this mentality we will never stop wars.

@humanity_revisited ..I apologize if I sounded as if I am angry. And presumed you were Hindu. Glad you are buddhist. My mother's step mother was too. And she was a nice lady. Yes, if we go behind, nobody is clean. Perspective is important. I strongly object to killing, especially innocents. There is nothing in our law that says eating beef is wrong. He has followed the laws of the land, and to that extent, this amounts as murder. I would additional charges. Forget the past is what I want. I wanted cut off date as 1950 republic day when we adopted our constitution. Cut off. No past issues prior to that to be raised and told to children to harbor hatred. Clinically yes, dispassionately yes. But other than that, nothing. Nowadays, media does seem to have more power than that because there are many channels simultaneously stating that and we have more news papers too. But in the end, it is our brain that has to work and decide what can be the ulterior motive behind. Funny thing is people who are not even graduates are getting away with manipulating minds of people who are postgraduates and doctorates using the religion card. I wish everybody peace. From 1947 we have sacrificed 3 generations already to this good for nothing hatred and mistrust thanks to those politicians. You know when mind is filled with thoughts against the neighbor, it has no room for thoughts that could take the country and humanity forward. Human mind has its limitation. It can only do so much at a time. Perhaps, we do not figure prominently in Nobel prizes, and Olympics because we let our children waste their physical and mental energies this way. Why do we have to go to foreign countries to ask favors from them? Is that not belittling ourselves? Can we not make things of our own? Aren't obligations repayable? Did Pakistan not have to pay off that obligation? Is it not way too expensive a price? Would it not be cheaper if we corrected our home without taking help from others? Old fashioned thoughts perhaps. But good in the long run.

@humanity_revisited ..yes, everybody in history did that. People donated a lot of wealth to god from good old times. So temples were targets for some rulers. In addition, some of the survivors tried to take refuge there, so it was a question of killing them to prevent future uprisings. Once desecrated with such killing even temples cannot remain places of worship. But not all rulers did that. As to Hindu kings, they did to Buddhists, during Kalinga times. The reversal was when Ashoka converted and started forcing people to become buddhists. History proves that subsequently Hinduism witnessed a revival, and buddhists were killed, their temples, stupas, etc., were destroyed. So who started it? Why object to others doing it? Check this Time people realized that going into past means three fingers truly point at us. Hinduism does not have extraordinary things to show like parsis. So time we stopped brandishing flags with we are good they are bad kind of thing. The fact is most of the Hindu kings fell because of betrayal and the betrayal was for greed for power or wealth. Even wives of illustrious men like Shivaji have not spared their husbands. They've killed their husbands for getting their sons on throne. So nothing valuable is lost. Time Hindus got real about such things instead of swaying with political views.

@vandana7 Is seems you are getting angry on me. I must clear my stand in these points- First - I am not a Hindu. I am a follower of Buddhism. Or rather I would say religion doesn't matter here because its a social issue. Second- I don't consider cow as my mother or as holy. It's just another animal. It's a mammal just like goat and so if someone eat mutton then there is no wrong for him to eat beef. Mutton ,chicken ,beef all are same.all are living creatures .So no point in considering creature holy. Third- I have never said that killing was right. I condemn his killing . And I have no problem with anyone eating beef be it a Hindu or a Muslim . If you again read my points you will realize that I have condemn the politicisation of matter. Politicians will now use this matter for their vote bank resulting in communal hatred. Also I am pure vegetarian. My family eats meat and I also used to do so. But since past 2 years I haven't consumed any meat in any form. I took to vegetarianism on moral and ethical grounds and not because of any religious obligations. Regarding the development policies made by government, this was not the issue with f this debate. And no point in raising issues of babri masjid. If we see history all rulers and religions have been involved in killing . Hindus and Muslim rulers are no exception. All have done killing in some form oe other. So We should forget the past. Rather focus on present and rhe future of Nation. No religion permits killing of others. And mind you India is secular country and so everyone here is free to practice and religions without harming others. And for media I would say that I don't believe in electronic media. Except some print media like THE HINDU or TIMES OF INDIA most of the media reports are biased towards Muslims or towards Hindus. And electronic media makes issues of small things. And it always show negative things happening in the country Hope now you got what I really meant by my point.

@vandana7 earn us some monies doesn't cut much ice with me :) as there are many other things we could do, and won't, to get those monies. Like human trafficking.... Law of the land should be clear. Those companies can decide they want business or not once they know these rules. I don't see any reason to mellow out just whatever way suits them best. But that would be the case if this ban was really a law.... Your second point is... well... on point. We need to develop a system which works. This and all the other bullets you mentioned to someone else should be focus area. Agree. However, these disturbed sentiments are neither new nor his creation. It's a problem the society should solve, government has very limited role here. Blame local politics if you please.

@hora_fugit ..point one, law of land was eating non-veg including beef. Remember we were defeated by Muslims. Remember we were defeated because we betrayed our folks. So once the British left, the law of land would be what previous rulers held. A moderate way would be as per constitution which in no way bans eating beef. So they are pretty much following the law of the land. Your this comment actually made me think a lot and come up with a new discussion in which I have mentioned you. :) I think our time to implement that ban was when we received independence. Not now. There is something called law of limitation. If you do not exercise your rights in time, they are as good as lost. I am not saying you are wrong. I too am Hindu, and I feel for cows. But I think if we need to protect our cows, we need a different approach.

PMO's office appreciated Haryana's bill banning cow meat. In fact, Modi appreciated the move to protect cows in Gujarat. When Modi is going abroad, is he not aware that they are cow meat eaters? Is their money acceptable but not their habits? Are they not likely to come here? Are they expected to starve when they come here, or come here rarely to monitor their investments? Is Modi not aware that everybody can use their monies for their own people? If so, why should others be expected to spare us some, when we want to switch off our slaughterhouses? The same earn us some monies you know. Second point I went hammer and tongs at Modi was ...if "equality was never there", he needed to resolve those equations that brought in inequality rather than bring in new issues. As I can see reservations is a sore point, and as I see, money being spared for visiting Mecca is a sore point. As I mentioned elsewhere, government needs to bite the bullet by saying ..i give exactly two years to show me improvements in statistics, and if the advantages are being cornered by limited few, letting the rest stay backward, then it is obvious that the system is not working. Therefore, it will be removed. That will force those who have been using the reservation system only for their families and not letting others from their community come up, get real. In any event, it needs to be phased out. That to me would be creating equality. Not sly approach of disturbing their sentiments. We simply did not need a new issue to create further rift.

People have become obsessed. Left all education and tolerance behind. I asked one of the Indians commenting below, why was removing Mecca allowance and reservation not the first thing on agenda, if appeasement is objectionable. If those things remain appeasement continues isn't it? He evaded the stuff..lol. They know killing is not right, especially for this reason, but they don't want to admit it. Tell me about fanaticism, and I can tell you their brains are eaten away by worms, be it ISIS folks, or be it our folks, or other fanatics.

@thesids .. We the sane Hindus are dying race. Barbaric folks with babar's genes are taking charge.

@vandana7 It is completely irrational and insane to kill a human for a cow. I term it as barbaric. And yes, I am a Hindu . I also know that Hinduism never teaches to be Barbaric. So even if this is killing is associated with religion, how can you justify the killing?

It is cruel to kill somebody for food preferences. Cruel. That too an old man.

Exactly my sentiments. Why make one community feel special and other feel hurt.

But people following that with religious fervor to the extent of killing somebody? That may not be happening in your parts of the world.

Sad state of affairs. When I tell the world that Hindus can be as bad, nobody believes. But they can be.

@garymarsh6 ..we Indians pride ourselves but it comes at the cost of others.

@vandana7 SO much for religious tolerance eh! And everyone calls their religion a religion of peace!