Valuing Yourself
By TexanTornado
@TexanTornado (5573)
United States
October 15, 2015 4:12pm CST
After participating in a discussion on 'marriage vows' in which me and the author wasn't on the same page in our outlook. No worries Soph, I still loves you. It got me to thinking on the path in which I was on, and not the one she was trying to get me to follow.
I have seen so many cases where people are totally in love and once they marry and the 'honeymoon phase' wears off they tend become a bit distance. For whatever reason, only they would truly know.
My point being though that in some cases one of the duo will slowly lose themselves to try and make the other happy or be what they want them to be. In turn they start to lose **value** of themselves. Where they become more of a robot, a doormat, etc. They are simply just functioning, and not really living.
I myself hold more value on myself than to ever let something like that happen. Some might call it pride, others might call it stubbornness. I call it 'my way'.
Do you **value** yourself as a person? Do you know someone you wish held more **value** for themselves then they do?
**the word value isn't meant to be monetary** It means your self-worth.
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@rosekiss (30414)
• Eugene, Oregon
15 Oct 15
I valued myself during my ex and my marriage, but I am wondering whether he really valued me or not. If he had, he wouldn't have done what he did and asked for a divorce on Christmas Eve, 2005. I thought I valued myself, but he made me feel like I wasn't worth anything, but now that we are divorced, I am more valuable than ever.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
15 Oct 15
It does tend to become a mind game, doesn't it? Not that he played mind games with you, but more you begin to doubt yourself after the fact. Sort of like hind sight and what we can see afterwards. Yes, that you are. There is no doubt about that, and it's great that you see it that way!!!
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@rosekiss (30414)
• Eugene, Oregon
15 Oct 15
@TexanTornado Now, he feels differently than he did when he asked me for a divorce, but that doesn't change the fact, he had me doubting myself at the time. I have come to realize that he was wrong, and I am worth more than he ever felt I was. God values me too.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
15 Oct 15
@rosekiss Well, they do say 'you don't know what you have, until you no longer have it'. That might be the case with him. Oh I am sure you did, I think it's a normal reaction especially when something like that comes clear out the blue. Now, see you have the right mentality, and I admire that about you. No one should ever let another feel like they are worthless.
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@crazyhorseladycx (39509)
• United States
15 Oct 15
these days i've lil self-worth coz i used to be a doer 'n now i'm a recoverer. here's ya a lil ditty from kahlil gibrans book - the prophet:
"but let there be no spaces in your togetherness..."
"love one another, but make not a bond of love..."
"sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of your be alone..."
each's their own views on marriage. when 'nother person smothers ya, abusive in any fashion, the safest thing fer ones sanity 'n safety is to dissolve such'n arrangement.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
15 Oct 15
I completely understand what you are saying, and it's truly a shame but also human nature. When you lose the ability to be able to do the things you use to be able to do pretty much in your sleep. It then becomes a mentality in oneself that only they can change. I wish you felt better about yourself. And I truly hope that you don't let 'depression' get the better of you.
Oh thanks for the blurp. It does say a lot. And yes, I think we all have different views, intentions, and ideas of what marriage is all about. Everyone is entitled to their own.
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@crazyhorseladycx (39509)
• United States
16 Oct 15
@TexanTornado my lack'f self-worth is jest coz i can't do what i used to. self-imposed denial some say. the docs say 'be content to where yer at, it aint gonna get better'. 'course, they didn't figure i'd live't all outside'f a nursin' home, so i keep battlin'....
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
16 Oct 15
@crazyhorseladycx Yes, when they things you used do are more difficult to do now, if at all, it does take something away from you. However, it seems like you are a fighter and that is have the battle won already.
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@allknowing (137553)
• India
17 Oct 15
If we do not respect ourselves how can we expect respect from others. I know my strengths and no one can touch me and that is my undoing. I do not have many friends. Friends always try to help you the kind of help I do not need.
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@allknowing (137553)
• India
17 Oct 15
@TexanTornado Many put you under their obligation
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
17 Oct 15
@allknowing Oh ok. I have never felt that way with my friends.
@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
17 Oct 15
That is all so very true, we have to respect ourselves for us to be able to respect us. What do you mean the kind of help you don't need?
@sofssu (23662)
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16 Oct 15
I wasn't getting you to follow anything.. nor was I trying to influence you into anything.. Like I said I was talking about normal marriages and not about abusive marriages..
Even in normal marriages there are people who cheat and do their own kind of thing.. that was what the point I was making there though I didn't openly mention it.
Coming to your point just because I compromise or do things out of love for my husband I do not become a door mat or lose my value. My value as a person is in what I believe I am.. it is not about how others treat me or what they think of me.
I am sorry if I have hurt you .. the discussion was a general thing not aimed at anyone.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
16 Oct 15
Oh I know, I wasn't at all implying that you were trying to coerce me into your line of thinking. As I said, we were on two different pages (wave lengths). I was reading it one way, when you meant the discussion in a totally different one. I simply used my thought process that I was on from yours to start my discussion.
Exactly, your value is what you make it out to be. It shouldn't be what others make you feel or what they seem to value you as. There are many of marriages/partnerships/relationships/friendships where it's grand. However, they are many that aren't and that is where the low value (self-worth/low self esteem) will come into play.
But even putting 'relationships' (any kind) aside and thinking in the grand scheme of things, someone can also not value themselves as a person for other reasons. Hence as what @crazyhorseladycx said. (this is not to offend you crazy, just pointing something out)
And by no means did you hurt me in any way. Just cause we didn't follow one another or had a difference of opinion.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
16 Oct 15
I honestly dont think that everyone needs to be in a relationship, or needs to always be in one.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
16 Oct 15
@Jessicalynnt Yes, that is all so very true. Being in a committed relationship is not for everyone. Then you have those that think they couldn't live if they weren't in one.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
16 Oct 15
Oh no, I totally agree with you! I was using the 'marriage' thing as to what came to mind for me from another discussion. My discussion is based solely on a persons own thoughts/mentality of their self-worth.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
16 Oct 15
@TexanTornado I realized I was only thinking relationship as marriage, we all are in relationships of some kind all of the time, we just dont always need (and some never need) romantic type ones
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@softbabe44 (5816)
• Vancouver, Washington
16 Oct 15
i do know but there was a time when i didn't
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
16 Oct 15
I'm sorry to hear at one time you didn't, but glad that you came to acknowledge that you are worth something.
@softbabe44 (5816)
• Vancouver, Washington
17 Oct 15
@TexanTornado yes and thankyou
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
16 Oct 15
What you want in a relationship is someone who values you, and lets you see your worth. Someone who doesn't value you for who you are doesn't really love you. Some people will decide that they are not valuable, because their partner doesn't value them. That's sad, and it can be very destructive. But it has to go both ways, each recognizing the worth and value of the other.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
16 Oct 15
Yes, you are absolutely right with the point in which you make. A solid relationship should show value for one another. However, I believe a person should have/see the value in themselves and not rely on someone else to show or determine it for them. If one doesn't value themselves it can lead to depression and self destruction.
@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
21 Oct 15
I think that you speak of how many women of my generation may have done themselves. And, they tend to stay for the children and I think that is old fashioned thinking. I have issues with my self worth due to severe depression and such. Depends on how I feel and my anxiety level at the time. It may seem strange but that does have a lot to do with it.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
21 Oct 15
Yes, it does seem to be more of the older generation with this problem. They stay for the kids or even 'divorce' in the society is not an option. Then they there are ones that are mentally abused. It's really a sad thing for what ever reason that it may be, that one loses the insight of their value. I am sorry to hear you are one that suffers from such, and depression is basically what comes of it 90-95% of the time.
@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
17 Oct 15
Exactly! That is exactly how I feel. You nailed my sentiments right on the head. Thank you. I have seen too many women fall into a state of depression because they feel worthless.
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
16 Oct 15
Interesting
My take -
1. The first and foremost - if you want any relation to survive, you must be willing to let it survive. Because this "will" of yours is going to decide the rest of the things. assuming you have a "will" to keep the relationship, you have next to decide how far will you go to keep this will of yours alive. And this "far" determines whether you lose your own self or keep you own self alive.
2. Every relation is based on - Give and Take rule. You Cannot expect things to be one sided if the relation should last for long.
As you spend days, months, years with the one involved, you realize s/he has good and bad - both sides. Now all upto you if you go with good, ignore the bad (doesnt mean that you dont try to get the bad converted to good, but do not superimpose yourself on the other when doing so).
If all fails, one has to adjust. Now, if the desire to be together and keep the relation is alive, it does not matter in the long run. At the end, it is the relation that matters. And in adjusting, it never means that you lose your value... because if you lost your own value, the relationship would stagnate and never move forward.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
16 Oct 15
I have to say, I do like how you break it down, and agree with a lot of the points that you make. It all seems so very logical and that is the way the perfect world would want it to be, and even the people themselves would hope it to be. However, that is not always the case.
There are so many cases where one is more dominating, controlling, mentally abusive, etc. And it's not just 'couples' (for a better word.) So many times a person along the way in life a will lose sight of their 'value' (self-worth) for one reason or another.
Examples:
They don't feel they can measure up to what their parents want them to be.
Their peers don't treat them as equals, and even can belittle them.
The person themselves can feel like they just aren't good enough.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
17 Oct 15
@thesids They do say opposites attract. I seriously doubt you are all that bad. Everyone has their own little quirks about them.
I do believe that marriage is made up of compromises and a matter of give and take. As long as the people treat each other as equals, most anything can be worked out.
Oh I agree with, I don't give much mind to what others think about me,outside my family. It's more what a person thinks about them self, is where the 'value' I was speaking of comes into play.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
17 Oct 15
Here! Here! I am the exact same way.
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@Tampa_girl7 (50580)
• United States
15 Oct 15
I think that marriage is give and take. I have never felt that I didn't value myself.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
15 Oct 15
Yes, marriage is give and take. I totally agree with you there. I think some people lose the idea of their value in some cases though.
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@rahulvsmokiee (3110)
• Thiruvananthapuram, India
17 Oct 15
I am so sorry to say that nowadays these values has been Gone in India. Due to the AARSHA bharath culture everything has been doomed my dear friend. Have a great day dear.
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@TexanTornado (5573)
• United States
19 Oct 15
Really? Ok, I am not sure what 'AARSHA' is. So I am completely lost.