Human rights vs. Indian judges on pedophiles

@Marcyaz I was watching a show on tv..CSI CYBER last night and all i kept thinking about was my grands and wanting to beat the guy up also..the children were brothers 10 and 12..so its just not girls..sickos..yuck

@Marcyaz ..as long as the punishment is within the privacy of jail, its impact is not felt outside and those who need to take lessons are not taking. That is why I want public castration and gory one at that. A few cases and rapists would freeze at the thought.

@Rosekitty ..yes...I know. My cousin was used by our maid when he was about six years old. I also get annoyed with my aunt who used to go on social visits with maid being in-charge of kids. How could they presume children are safe anytime?

More horrible than a two year old raped?

@boiboing ..Oh I am absolutely for that. So what should I do? Let the girls in this country suffer because two wrongs don't make a right? Let the women here stop having girl child (read abort) because risks are too many? Let the girls go back into the home, where incest will continue to chase them, but at least they will not be at risk of being raped by outsiders? Let the dowry problem compound because girl would be accepted with such past? As I see it, the choice is not merely between 2 year old's rape and the pedophile's punishment. The choice is between taking a firm step to save women in this part of the world, where customs and laws are considerably different from your parts of the world, and which have led to problems for womenfolk and these continue to increase by day and ages of girls being raped are getting smaller and smaller. I think Gandhi did not face the fact that girls will be aborted, if serious action is not taken. Had he faced such a fact, may be he too would have asked for it. Mere inclusion of such gory punishment in law books will change the scenario.

@vandana7 Two wrongs don't make a right. You know what Gandhi said: "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".

@Marcyaz ..I think the families should be allowed to cut the first cut..

@Rosekitty ..you are after my heart. I believe that should be allowed.

I am so glad you are with me on this. I feel it is absolutely essential at least in India.

I love you Oshy. But I am for more gory version so that we don't have to run around capturing the disgusting lot and fight the cases in courts for ages.

@TiarasOceanView ..wow Oshy. I believe that such things would happen only in a few cases. Prospectively rest would start behaving. The problem is small kids are almost defenseless, and that vulnerability is what makes the older folks get away with their unbridled behavior.

@vandana7 I am not averse to the gory kind in reality.

I already told you my aunt's son is a pedophile. It is, let me assure you, very difficult to differentiate. And 99 years jail is nonsense. Rape needs more severe punishment. In India it is only 7 years. But first it needs to become a non-bailable offense, and only the estate of the person should be liable for paying lawyer's fees. Parents, spouses, etc., should not be threatening the victim, and if they do so, they should lose all their properties. The laws in the US are archaic too. 99 years punishment, don't you think they are laughable?

As to penalties being deterrents or not, unless we try them we would not know, right? I believe they will serve as deterrents. Let us try them.

@Kchitij2007 ..frankly, there is not enough tax collection for doing justice or maintaining law and order or even health care of people, which I think should take priority over maintaining such unworthy people fed with tax payer's monies. I would castrate and tattoo the person and leave him in some god forsaken place..duly taking away his properties of course. Just like the girl suffers social humiliation the man too must suffer.

When the majority agrees, judges should follow the wishes of the majority instead of listening to the human rights folks.

I agree with@just4him. Castrated and locked away for life.

@jstory07 ..locking is not really a punishment for them. They bribe their way out.

That is a possibility. I cannot deny it. But let us say, we put it up for voting across the country and let the majority decide. After all, any law is based on what majority thinks as right. As to the person being found innocent, we would give a reasonable time for him or her to prove that innocence, wouldn't we?

See had they listened to us, these new cases would not happened. Instead they called for some silly referendum, and declared that the existing laws were enough. Who are they shielding? Their spouses, children, brothers, sons, grandsons, fathers, friends, cousins? Or themselves...to think ladies were there on that panel is disgusting to say the least.

Then allow lie detectors, truth serums, and hypnotism to elicit truth from them. In any event what you are suggesting is humanly impossible. In this context let me assure you things that are happening in India are beyond imagination of people from your world. Like brothers and parents selling daughters and sisters? It is all happening out here. As to pedophiles, some use children because they are not finding wives, we have killed so many little girls in some parts of our country. On one side is fear of paying dowry, on the other side is one year contract marriage of girls, including minors. That is how things are standing as of now. Let us just say it is far worse than what you all believe.

@arthurchappell ..I am so shaken up with today's episode of Crime Patrol that I am not sure what to say. Using girl as retirement income! Getting her married annually to one person, and issuing receipts for payment for this contract and keeping copy of it? I wish we never got that independence.

@vandana7 We certainly have molestation problems but ours is a smaller country so it can't be as easy to establish a wide scale organized circle of such vile practices as in a big country like India - nevertheless I hope there are no miscarriages of justice

Public castration will. We at least need to try it out.

Oh I am so glad you are with me on this one. Without a public punishment no rapist, pedophiles, acid throwing scum bags and terrorists are going to be deterred. I do not believe in hanging because there is some dignity associated with it when privacy is offered. It is also too swift when compared to the hell that the girls go through in their lifetime.

It is weak laws. If laws got fangs, we will save so much on unnecessary tracing down of rapist, using up court time for getting justice, and eventually using tax payer's monies to keep those good for nothing men and women in prison. If laws were strong, these folks would hesitate and we would be saving so much of court time, so much money that is lost in such processes apart from preventing crimes against our women of course.

@vandana7 so true