Are You Sure?

It is a fact that CIA had a hand in training the rebels fighting for the freedom cause against dictators and tyrants of their countries concern like Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and so forth. But how these things can be misconstrued and twisted to suit the extremists and the general Muslim community is simply shocking. The Chinese that you mentioned are condemned with far more things than Tienanmen Square, namely copyright piracy, hazardous products, animal cruelty, poisonous toys, doctored milk, bad dog food and so on but the difference is that we make efforts to stop these incidents from happening again even when we may avoid discussing these in the open or openly. It is not so much about condemnation but the misunderstandings that may be attached to it.

In my opinion, the Muslims whom she has managed to speak to are more scared to discuss things in open. First it is their Religion's misinterpretation involved (at least if they go by the term what these terrorists use - Jihad) and also because it is China - which has stricter laws. So to avoid such discussions, maybe they claim that it is the CIA.

Would you, however, say that "Since these people are clearly not Muslim, they must be CIA agents pretending to be Muslim"? It seems to me that this is the most disturbing thing about these people's reponses.

The terrorists do not deserved to be Muslims does not mean that they are not Muslims. I don't see how and why in the Muslim community cannot accept the fact that there are good and bad Muslims. The bad ones misleads and teaches the other Muslims who in turn, turn on to other people who are in the same faith and other religion. Why aren't these bad apples exposed and arrested? It is simple where even a 3 year old could understand - there are extremism supporters.

@owlwings Most of them are fanatics and of course they find excuses. They are poor innocents, and WE the western are the devil. Ridiculous.

I wonder if you had asked them who is misleading the Muslims that killing unarmed helpless people including their very own will take them to jannat. Who allowed the misled? How is it that the person or persons misleading was not being exposed and arrested? Is this Muslim or CIA misleading the Muslims? I don't know why they cannot accept the fact that there are good and bad Muslims.

@artemeis @artemeis They blame many things that they have been facing - and admit the root cause is Power and Lust for it. They normally dont want to go into a deep discussion because of - we all know why - the rampant poverty in their community and lack of proper education - these have arisen because of the people who control what they are being taught. In my opinion, It is all wrong just to blame someone in particular - be it the CIA or the Muslims or anyone else. In my circle of people, many even dont know what CIA is or what is its full form. From what I have managed to understand talking to them - Those who mislead today = are mostly their Clerics and Maulanas. Those who are mislead = anyone who is a victim of any atrocity or suffering is a more better prospect - religion is nothing involved here today. Had it been a decade or two earlier, things might have been different. But today, they do recruit from anywhere in the world and it is also not that only poor join them. Today as far as what I have read on newspapers even highly paid software analysts have been into recruiting. And I dont know what makes you say - why they cannot accept the fact that there are good and bad Muslims. - but my experiences during the Babri Masjid Demolition and otherwise has been good with many of my Muslim friends. They have brains and do think broadly and mostly good for the entire world. Yes, sometimes they do get pi$$$ed off but I think we are responsible for this. I mean who will not feel hurt when you are nowhere involved, but almost everyone around seems to suspect you or even say that your community is bad and should be wiped out, definitely, that is a big reason to be upset and I too would feel upset if I was the one at the receiving end.

I can assure you that it is nothing surprising if I tell you that there are some deviant extremist intellectuals that are misguiding the Muslim communities around the world. Holding on to such a saying or line of thought is simply inconceivable and grossly wrong. I hate to add the repercussions it will have to younger Muslim population and the community as a whole. As for Putin, I feel that he is trying to make statements to the world the wrong way especially with his support to Bashar Assad whom the Syrians want to depose. I simply doubt him and I believe I have supporters with me here, that he is not only targeting the militant IS group but the rebels that are going against Assaad. Say what he like and wants but you can see that the rest of the world are not sharing information with Russian military in this war campaign against the IS since the majority are supporting the rebels of the Assaad regime.

@artemeis You keep on top of the situation of the Middle East and I have to make up lessons in this respect .Anyway Putin comes across as an iron-handed person who isn't a lamp that does not burn much oil as we say here .

Blindness, I suppose. It is really shocking at how the faith itself lacks leadership which has allowed not only misconstrued thoughts to thrive but extremism as well. This line of thought just makes non Muslims and even US to look bad. How these intellectuals can play into the minds of the ignorant is really shocking here. No wonder it is so hard to get rid of these groups of people.

Fighting never solves any thing and it will just escalate to epic proportions if left uncontrolled or stopped. Likewise for wrongful religious guidance and teachings which lead to extremism or supportive of extremism and subsequently terrorism - it must be addressed, arrested in time and stopped in due time. Sadly, this is very much missing as far as Islam and the Muslim community are concerned.

@artemeis I have friends who are Muslims and they are very nice and respectful. I am not sure if this is part of their teachings. If it is then I strongly believe that this should be addressed.

@artemeis I have friends who are Muslims and they are very nice and respectful. I am not sure if this is part of their teachings. If it is then I strongly believe that this should be addressed.

They simply feel that they are doing the world, Muslim community a lot of good while they have no answers nor reasons to kill one of their own in their planned attacks.

I simply could not believe what I'm hearing from the Muslims that I met who are either from the Middle East countries and Muslim locals in China. Surely there will be some bad apples in the midst and by believing that the terrorists acts so far are CIA is simply self denial.

@arthurchappell Unfortunately, they have a considerable number of uneducated illiterates amongst them. So getting the proper education and information to these people is rather remote here.

@artemeis they need to study up on what happened to understand it rather than reacting emotionally to the situation