Turning to Psychics and Mediums for Information
@EugenesDDen (310)
Ireland
6 responses
@DaddyEvil (137255)
• United States
2 Jan 16
People turn to the things they know and trust for answers when they need them. You or I would seek out information on the internet to help solve a problem.
Our fathers were more likely to turn to books or another person for advice or assistance.
Our grandfathers, on the other hand might very well have turned to someone who can "prove" that the supernatural is "real and now"!
Credulous people will turn to anyone who can promise them what they want for nothing, next to nothing and/or a low enough price. If they can't see it, can't feel it and can't otherwise detect it, that doesn't mean nothing is there!
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@vandana7 (100193)
• India
2 Jan 16
Robb...I am open to the idea that all sciences or all thoughts that we have some grain of truth in them. So yes, those ghosts though I do not believe in them - may be true. My idea is the brain cannot come up with something that it has not seen or experienced. Why is it that you never see yourself walking with your hands touching the ground and legs up in your dream. Because gravity and the way we walk is embedded deeply in our thinking so deep that we do not understand it...it is almost genetic in nature. There is a lot about us we do not understand. One thing is certain..we are made from chemicals. Organic or inorganic. The disintegration of chemicals and reformation of other bonds is happening constantly in our body. Each chemical as you know can only react in specific ways. But presence of other chemicals in the vicinity determine which of those ways it would react in. I however believe that everybody can become a psychic. That ability is also written in our genes. We as humans or animals are designed for self preservation and that is the sixth sense that we are talking about. When we are in despair or upset about something or extremely happy or calm too, there may be these senses that emerge and they perceive what is happening when other senses take a break. I believe there may be a way to tap that energy but as humans we cannot do it after all we have one thing too many interfering with our concentration. May be when computers improve much more, we may manage to come up with accurate predictions. I also believe that cosmic energies also have subtle effect on the chemical reactions in our body. Logically speaking tides and full moon are related, right? Similar movement of liquids in our body can also be happening. Reactions because of full moon we know. We do not know what reactions our systems undergo because of mars or venus or jupiter, or saturn. Just saying...for now psychic ability is a myth but it does not mean that there is no possibility of it.
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@EugenesDDen (310)
• Ireland
2 Jan 16
@vandana7 As Hamlet would say "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
We still don't understand the nature of human consciousness. Our five senses feed into our brain, but who or what is experiencing the movie?
Are we part of a collective consciousness?
Is the mind/soul/consciousness a separate entity from the physical body, or maybe all matter is conscious and becomes "organised" when a new person is born?
Where were we before birth?
Do twins share a collective consciousness or are they just so closely "synced" together that they know what each other is thinking? (I wonder have any studies been done on this which showed statistically significant evidence of ESP ability)
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@EugenesDDen (310)
• Ireland
2 Jan 16
I suppose if people get comfort from psychics or mediums maybe that's all that matters. So for instance if they are told that one of their loved ones who has passed on is in a good place and is looking out for them, even if this is information contrived by the medium or they actually believe in their psychic abilities, it might help.
Psychics can put on a great show, but it can be downright dangerous if for instance a person refuses medical treatment because the psychic suggests an "alternative". I don't think I would like to be treated by a psychic surgeon either, like those on therapies dot com.
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@EugenesDDen (310)
• Ireland
2 Jan 16
Well none of them have won James Randi's million dollar prize yet. I take your point though that people look for solace and resolution to their problems/worries/losses, so if it helps to resort to psychics, good luck to them!
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
2 Jan 16
@EugenesDDen Perhaps James Randi does not understand what he is asking for.
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
2 Jan 16
Why do people turn money over to frauds? 1) They are deceived. 2) They are desperate. 3) They have the money and want the experience.
Do I believe in psychics and mediums? If they are genuine yes. If they are frauds no. It's the same as the fraud banksters that send scam emails. Those are frauds but banks and bankers ARE real.
Nodding to @DaddyEvil for the suggestion.
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@EugenesDDen (310)
• Ireland
2 Jan 16
Some psychics and mediums believe in themselves and consider the information they provide genuine. So I suppose there is a sort of nobleness in that, even though the information may be nonsense. However should they request payment or just a donation?
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@EugenesDDen (310)
• Ireland
2 Jan 16
@Namelesss So did the adviser predict the exact day and year of her win?
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
2 Jan 16
@EugenesDDen Some psychics are genuine, why shouldn't they be paid for their services? No different than consulting any other service adviser.
One of my best friends consulted an adviser who told her she absolutely would win the lottery and when, triple digits. Ten years later, right on time, my friends wins $100,000. Not a bad return on $2.95 phone call.
Me? I've never consulted a psychic except the one time I received a reading as a birthday gift. THAT psychic was a fraud, I knew it the moment I walked in but went through it anyway to satisfy my other friend who had paid for it.
Now, YOU answer your questions.
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
4 Jan 16
I really hate that your discussion is only two questions. I usually ignore those but I do enjoy the conversation below, so it's a win.
Look, a long long time ago our ancestors referred to lightening as fire birds and other such nonsense. Eventually science figured it out and gave it a proper name. One day science will figure out the paranormal experience and give it proper names as well. But your questions were about 'fraud'. Is there any area of human endeavor that does not have frauds? No one believes in frauds but we all know they exists and even the most observant can be taken in by one, hence the term - con artists.
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
4 Jan 16
@ataboy You're right but you missed my point. My point was simply I like to read more of what the person posting the discussion thinks in the body of the discussion rather than just in the comments. Not pessi or opti (mistic) just personal preference. As you can see I have very much taken this where I wanted as has everyone. Like I said, it's a win for Eug. Shorties just usually don't attract my attention.
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@ataboy (737)
• United States
4 Jan 16
Two or even one question is bittersweet! You can see it a limiting your answer the post (which I might consider a little pessimistic), or you can use it as a place to just go off in any direction from a shared central theme (more optimistic). You stretch the questions in one way I do another and soon we have 10-20 different perspectives or angles to approach the same general idea. If there were 5-10 questions mixed in the whole thing that it's just a free for all and not much central theme is shared. I'm pretty sure @EugenesDIYDen doesn't mind what way you run with the discussion, although I don't speak for him. You're a creative person, @Namelesss, so surely something related comes to mind that effectively increases the number of questions from you're point-of-view!
There's talk of ghosts, dreams, science and experiences and all sort of ways to look at it above.
Your actual answer is spot-on in my opinion. It's hard to elaborate on such an ideal and concise answer.
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@ataboy (737)
• United States
4 Jan 16
OK, Understood now, @Namelesss. I took "...only two questions." to mean as opposed to more questions, whereas you meant more discussion. I understand what you're saying now. Of course, I'm a little offended about the "shorties" slight though!
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@Plethos (13581)
• United States
4 Jan 16
people are more likely to believe whatever they want to believe anyways- psychic, dr., fortune teller, it dont matter.
as for me in what i believe, apparently brujeria runs in both sides of my family in some form or another, so i was brought up to just have an open mind and only believe the end results.
@ataboy (737)
• United States
4 Dec 15
I try to maintain an open-mind as much as humanly possible, since I would have been sharing the opinion of the mainstream scientific community if I believed that atoms...or protons were fundamentally not made of anything smaller (theoretically indivisible) a century or so in our past. But I'm realistic about it, since I believe that the Nobel Prize would hang around the neck of someone that could prove such things to be true, not to mention numerous multi-million dollar prizes that await anyone that can prove the existence of such things. But, suddenly no one is in it for the money...Right!?
Would I pay for such things, nope! Unless I felt it warranted to research a particularly notorious claim or something, but I've not yet seen anything that a common con artist or magic show couldn't easily pull-off.
Of course, for some people, I think (or rather I hope) that they unconsciously turn a blind-eye to reason when choosing to go to a psychic for advise. As they say "Ignorance is bliss!" Bliss sounds nice...Ignorance, well, not so much!
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@PainsOnSlate (21852)
• Canada
2 Jan 16
I have had a lot of psychic experiences in my life time. Do I believe in Psychics? Yes I do. I've actually met one that was amazing on a day to day basic life (as compared to the county fair turban wearing woman with the crystal ball.) Am I a psychic? NO. Would I pay one for information? Maybe if I was desperate but I've never considered it important enough to do it so far.
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@vandana7 (100193)
• India
2 Jan 16
@PainsOnSlate ...with so many horoscope sites who would want to pay. lol
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