Aren&#39;t We all Animals?

@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

21 Jan 16

Wow, that definitely sounds interesting. Maybe because of this, they say here that UK is the worlds best place to get ill.

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

21 Jan 16

@topffer Just be careful. They may prescribe the cat to go for days without milk

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topffer

@topffer (42156)

• France

21 Jan 16

The medicines are not always the same, but it is true that they are really cheaper. When I was breeding rabbits long ago, I remember that I have cured a cough with an antibiotic for rabbits against coryza

. I had bought 1 kg of this antibiotic : when a rabbit gets a snuff you have to cure it very quickly as they can breath only with their nose. To have an antibiotic for my cough I needed to see a doctor. The rabbit antibiotic was exactly the same, except that I had to take a bit more than a rabbit

. The daily dose was 1/10th gram/kg. I measured the dose needed for a big 60 kg rabbit on my kitchen scale and cured my cough without seeing a doctor

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

21 Jan 16

So this can be an effective way to cure some cough

I wonder there are so many people suffering from Cough here this season and if I start selling out some of those medicines, it might be something like doing social service. Also, more people will get employment in the Vet Medicine

As it worked for a 60 kilo rabbit, it will work good enough for a 48 kilo too

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

21 Jan 16

@topffer Today you do not cure anymore a cough with an antibiotic, but 40 years ago it was common Of course, this is so true. Today, no matter what medicines they prescribe, if you have cold or even cough, it will get cured in its own course of time... I have tested this - gone without medicines and cold left in 7 days. Next year, I tried with medications, still it took 7 days to get it cleared. Does the big rabbit take it with carrots?

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topffer

@topffer (42156)

• France

21 Jan 16

@thesids Give to your rabbit 4.8 gram/day during 5 days

. It was a bad cough which was starting to turn to bronchitis, I was living in the middle of nowhere, and thought that I had exactly the right medicine under the hand

. Today you do not cure anymore a cough with an antibiotic, but 40 years ago it was common.

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alchemistrx

@alchemistrx (2547)

• Philippines

22 Jan 16

Vets are cheaper than doctors because of the mass area of each patients differ.

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alchemistrx

@alchemistrx (2547)

• Philippines

22 Jan 16

@thesids i guess you're right smarty pants. I'll correct my conclusion.It isn't about the mass area. Its how we differ in species and structure and function.

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alchemistrx

@alchemistrx (2547)

• Philippines

22 Jan 16

@thesids i guess you're right smarty pants. I'll correct my conclusion.It isn't about the mass area. Its how we differ in species and structure and function.

@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

22 Jan 16

If I understand you right, the mass area you mention is the size of the patient (in physical terms). So if this is the logic, shouldnt the Pedriatics and their medicines be cheaper - as they treat babies. Similarly, the people who deal with teens, should charge less. And that will make things really difficult for old age people who have fully grown and definitely have a high mass area.

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rebel_woman06

@SIMPLYD (90721)

• Philippines

25 Jan 16

Surely , i wouldn't ever like to consult a vet for any ailment that i may have .

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

27 Jan 16

But why? They do not use too many equipments

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

28 Jan 16

@SIMPLYD Arent we all animals? But rest assured, if you have cold and cough, they would give give you medicines for that and not anything else

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rebel_woman06

@SIMPLYD (90721)

• Philippines

28 Jan 16

@thesids They might give me medicines meant for the animals.

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rebelann1949

@rebelann (112962)

• El Paso, Texas

20 Feb 16

Well, we are animals, that's a fact but as for similarity not so much. We are omnivores so our system has to be able to digest both meat and veggies whereas carnivores are only equipped to digest meats and herbivores might be even more complicated than we are, just get a load of what all cows do in order to digest hay or grass, cheeeze, all that chewing

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

21 Feb 16

@rebelann Yes, that is quite a point - we being Omnivores, things are much different. Most of the animals are either herbivores or the carnivores. Some like cats and dogs that we domesticate, can be Omnivores to. You are lucky that you can avoid doctors. And I do hope that it remains for good.

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rebelann1949

@rebelann (112962)

• El Paso, Texas

21 Feb 16

I'm afraid I must point out that both cats and dogs are carnivores and many of the vegetables we force them to eat are not healthy for them @thesids neither has the digestive system to break down vegetation and it can be very toxic for them.

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rebelann1949

@rebelann (112962)

• El Paso, Texas

20 Feb 16

OH yeah, did I mention I avoid doctors?

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@Daljinder (23236)

• Bangalore, India

29 Jan 16

You can't get me to a General Physician without a lot of coaxing and you talk about going to the VET. ???? *runs away and hide*

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vanny

@vandana7 (100546)

• India

22 Feb 16

Not good little girl...you gotta give others some chance for two square meals.

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

29 Jan 16

The Vets know their jobs better than their counterparts and also will prescribe less of tests... and you can also expect eatable

medicines... maybe for instance, some bigger chewable tablets

*A-Gent 008 gets the task of finding your hideout

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@Daljinder (23236)

• Bangalore, India

22 Feb 16

@vandana7 At what cost?? Me being a guinea pig??

uh... I don't think so...

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Koalemos

@Asylum (47893)

• Manchester, England

29 Jan 16

A good point. If I ever decide to be neutered I will visit the vet.

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

29 Jan 16

I doubt if they will have perks* for you for this one. Here (in India) they have some offerings when you opt for such operations for family planning (I dont know why this term, but it means, vasectomy or tubectomy to avoid having more children).

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Lee Ka

@kaka135 (14931)

• Malaysia

24 Jan 16

I think the vets here charge quite expensive as well, the hospital admission charge and medical charge for a pet (mine was a dog) is expensive too. So, I don't have the thought as you. But, not every human being treats other animals as "lives". There are some people really pamper their pets, but there are also some just treat the animals like nothing. I don't mean I think they are equal, as we are human beings here, I think we'll all speak for humans.

But I think we should also treat other animals as living creatures, as they have feelings as well.

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Lee Ka

@kaka135 (14931)

• Malaysia

29 Jan 16

@thesids Well, I don't think the cost of vets is equivalent to the values of animals' life here. It might just because the vets are professionals, they studied in universities for years. There are some people really treasure the animals, treat the animals as part of the family, but there are still many people who treat the animals poorly. I can't imagine how it can be "almost free". Is the medical cost there really high?

@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

29 Jan 16

Ouch. That is sad as you mention that Vets are expensive as well. Here, in Indian context, and more so, here at my place, they are almost free (if I compare to what I spend for my visit to my doctors).

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marcyaz

@Marcyaz (35316)

• United States

26 Jan 16

Interesting discussion Sids but I wouldn't want to go and be locked up in a kennel while they do some testing, would you?

I also don't think I would want to eat the dog food they would want to give me, what say you?

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

27 Jan 16

be locked up in a kennel - I find company interesting... Good that they do not have isolated ICUs

At least the Dog Food is what is supposed to be good for Dogs. The kind of food they served here when my wife was admitted for the labor, I doubt if that was healthy and nutritious in any way

much2say

@much2say (55912)

• Los Angeles, California

24 Jan 16

My dad always did often comment that my mother's siblings were "animals" (don't ask), so I suppose that would make me part animal regardless what they say humans are

. Now am I qualified to go to a vet? The wait may be much shorter in the waiting room at the vets office - that would be another plus. Maybe the vet would scratch behind my ears and give me a treat (chocolate flavor??

) But I would hope I'm not put in a cage or kennel if I have to stay overnight!

I like insane ideas and discussions!

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much2say

@much2say (55912)

• Los Angeles, California

26 Jan 16

@thesids Hmmm, just what was your coffee laced with?

I thought about it. I haven't seen a vets office in a long time, but I do remember they had metal tables in which the pets are placed for observation. Does this mean I would have to sit on a cold, metal table? Brrrrrrr.

Yah, I guess many of us might be very qualified . . . that could be another discussion on its own!

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

24 Jan 16

Ah surely, the wait time will be quite less, easy to get appointments too. (Wonder how I missed out that one!

probably, my coffee was laced

) As for your being more qualified.... I think many of us might have similar reasons

at least I have

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Oshy

@TiarasOceanView (70022)

• United States

21 Jan 16

Yes I agree, medical bills are through the roof. We are not able to be sick or unwell if we cannot afford it. Any price lessening would be fine for me too, but yes, the meds might not suit us from the vets lolz 008

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

22 Jan 16

Once when I was being experimented upon for my ailments (in 2000, and let me also mention, it was a complete misdiagnosis), I was prescribed tablets to be taken with water. And the size of the tablets was about 1.25 inches.

When mom saw those, she did mention - did you consult some vet

I mean, really? But 1.25 inches isn't that too big to be swallowed by a human?

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Oshy

@TiarasOceanView (70022)

• United States

22 Jan 16

@thesids Oh dear those are huge 008..Your mom haha

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Anna

@LadyDuck (472004)

• Switzerland

21 Jan 16

It is true that the vet are cheaper, but they do not have the same stress as the doctors. It's sad to say, but human lives are considered more important than animal lives.

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

21 Jan 16

I agree. human life is more important. And that is what makes me think more and feel sad about it - In case the human lives are considered more important than those of animals (which is the fact), then why is it that at many places, the charges are prohibitively so very high making it practically beyond the reach of the needy.

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

22 Jan 16

@LadyDuck I agree with that. The equipment does add to the costs. But most of the doctors work in association with Hospitals (and many work in their own clinics who refer some of their associate hospitals or places for performing the needed tests). Still, these doctors charge much. Very few doctors of today, do it as a service. Many I know, only want to recover their investments.

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Anna

@LadyDuck (472004)

• Switzerland

22 Jan 16

@thesids The medical structures and equipment are very expensive. Good doctors get high salary. In most countries of the world they also have to pay high cost insurances if someone sue them for malpractice... you see, a lot of costs that finally people pay.

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Jekca

@Jessicalynnt (50523)

• Centralia, Missouri

22 Jan 16

hahaha, I shall stick with medicines I can take via the mouth, rather than shots or the other end lol

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

22 Jan 16

It is always cumbersome to take enemas or even undergo colonoscopy every year

but then, I cannot avoid the colonoscopy

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Jekca

@Jessicalynnt (50523)

• Centralia, Missouri

23 Jan 16

@thesids I have to have bloodwork done once a year, you gotta do what you gotta do

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Shiva

@Shiva49 (26765)

• Singapore

1 Feb 16

We have a lot of similarities though we want to be treated better, so it goes with the territory we pay more. With the internet helping along , I see many self-medicating too - siva

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

1 Feb 16

I must agree with the self medication thing because I am into it for my own illnesses. My doctors here misdiagnosed and continued with their wrong diagnosis for 5 years. Later on a trip to another city, the doctor too only (yes only) 7 seconds to conclude what that illness was. And as visits to him each year are not always happening, he did suggest me to use the Internet for recent developments. For discussion's sake, dont you think that these animals too need better treatments, better facilities and above all a better diagnosis?

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ShannyBananny

@shaggin (72190)

• United States

28 Apr 16

Hahaha well I don't think I would really feel that safe going to a vet for treatment :-P

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Pose123

@Pose123 (21635)

• Canada

21 Jan 16

Here in Canada we pay for vets but not for doctors but I get your point as I know that it isn't the same everywhere. Blessings.

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@thesids (22180)

• Bhubaneswar, India

22 Jan 16

It is a pleasure to see you return

Yes, as I read the responses from Mike197602 and others above, I did come to know that some countries do have free medical treatments for humans, which is really good and noble.

Sreekala

@Sreekala (34312)

• India

12 Mar 16

Hello Sid

According my experience the Vet also charges much. In my native, one of my brother in law has cows and he spent much money once the cow got ill. Bringing the vet and buying medicines, all took lot of his earnings.

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celticeagle

@celticeagle (168171)

• Boise, Idaho

21 Jan 16

I don't think much of the vets hospital. My dad was misdiagnosed with stomach problems when all along he had pancreatic cancer. I would rather pay more and be assured that I am getting competent medical care.

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