When Writing Murder Mysteries....

@patgalca (18391)
Orangeville, Ontario
February 21, 2016 3:44pm CST
I am reading another book by my writing group friend. This is her sixth book with another coming out soon. I commented earlier on one of her books that I read and that there were a lot of errors. I think that one book was a one off. Not all of her books are as badly edited, thankfully. Anyway, I am only two chapters into this current book (Hardheaded Brunette). The genre is Cozy Mysteries. My question to all of you is, when do you expect the murder to occur? In my opinion, I feel that the story should start right off the bat with the discovering of the body or bodies. At the very least, in the first chapter. Two chapters in and no deaths yet. A reader could easily lose interest. What do you think? When reading (or writing) mysteries, do you think the "mystery" should occur right away?
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@msiduri (5687)
• United States
22 Feb 16
I used to read a lot of murder mysteries by I haven't for a long time. No particular reason. And I don't believe I've ever read a cozy. That being sad, the story must pretty good to delay the murder. Maybe the author wants the reader to get to know the victim and perpetrator well before she offs the poor soul. I'm guessing.
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@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
24 Feb 16
@msiduri Except that the sleuths are young. More like Nancy Drew. There's a little romance involved too.
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@akalinus (43372)
• United States
23 Feb 16
She might be setting up all the characters so it will leave you guessing 'who dun it. Everyone might have some beef with the victim and then it will turn out to be none of them.
@msiduri (5687)
• United States
22 Feb 16
@patgalca Ah, rather like Jessica Fletcher of "Murder She Wrote" fame. Oh, ye gods, does that date me.
• Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
22 Feb 16
I am a blood and guts reader, I like my murders in the first paragraph. Otherwise, I think the dastardly deed or a very strong hint about sources of the mystery should be in Chapter 1 to keep readers' interest.
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@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
22 Feb 16
Well, they're leading up to the mystery but I haven't a clue who it's going to be or who is going to die. In the previous book in the series I didn't have a clue either. She's good at that.
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@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
22 Feb 16
@sherryericha Are you saying you ALWAYS read the end of the book first?
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• Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
22 Feb 16
@patgalca. Can you keep a secret? Sometimes, okay usually, I read the end of the book first. Congrats to your friend. Love the book's title.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
21 Feb 16
Not necessarily as she might want to lead into it later. I like a good mystery and right now I am reading 1st to die by James Patterson. I read a lot of his books as they are so well written.
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@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
21 Feb 16
I have a couple of James Patterson's books on my shelf but have yet to read any.
@akalinus (43372)
• United States
22 Feb 16
@patgalca I just got Zoo by Patterson from Amazon. They based a TV series on it. I missed most of it. I like books more anyway.
@GreatMartin (23672)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
22 Feb 16
A mystery doesn't necessarily have to be about a murder at the beginning--it could lead up to one.
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@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
22 Feb 16
Yes, it is leading up to one. But like the last book in the series, I'm not going to have a clue as to who the murder is. The last book of Ed McBain's (I've read 55 of his books) I had the answer pegged from the get-go.
@KristenH (33393)
• Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
22 Feb 16
Since I've been reading cozies for a little over a decade, murders should take place in the first couple of chapters. Have she read cozies before she had written them? She should read books in the genre she writes, whether it's a regular or culinary cozies. I've seen it happen in the first 3 chapters. If there's more than one, it should be in the middle.
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@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
24 Feb 16
The body was found in the third chapter and I could see the reason for the build-up but perhaps she could have condensed it into one chapter. I have no idea what kind of books she reads. I assumed mysteries but I never thought to ask.
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@KristenH (33393)
• Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
24 Feb 16
@patgalca It doesn't hurt to ask. I think third chapter can be okay. Hmm.
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• Brookville, Pennsylvania
22 Feb 16
I don't read much murder mystery. The last one was Murder on the Orient Express, which I think took a couple of chapters before the murder. Of course, from the title you knew there would be a murder.
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@akalinus (43372)
• United States
23 Feb 16
@msiduri lol, I was reading Nancy Drew and dog/horse stories.
@msiduri (5687)
• United States
22 Feb 16
Boy, does that bring back memories. I think I was about 12 when I read that. I was still wondering why they were calling Hercule Poirot "Em" Poirot.
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@DWDavis (25805)
• United States
21 Feb 16
I agree the murder should occur early in the story. Too much of a prologue will bore the reader.
@LadyDuck (472114)
• Switzerland
22 Feb 16
Not at the first few pages, but at the first chapter. If there is not a murder at the first chapter, I expect a great story with a reason to wait.
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@softbabe44 (5816)
• Vancouver, Washington
24 Feb 16
Maybe some background information leading up to it then set the stage for the murders.
@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
22 Feb 16
Different authors have different styles. I think majority liked to pause their readers in suspense and go to final page.
@JudyEv (342100)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Feb 16
I've never really thought about it but I guess sooner rather than later.
@Scindhia (1906)
• India
22 Feb 16
The opening chapter has to be interesting no doubt about that. But I like books which have a lot of good twists in the story.
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