"Is it a Monkey, A Dog or a Cat? ...

@owlwings (43910)
Cambridge, England
March 7, 2016 1:21pm CST
... No, it's a symbol that tells you where you are at!" Some people call it a monkey, some an elephant's trunk and in Russia it's known as a dog. I think that it looks most like a cat curled up asleep. Before 1971, this symbol wasn't much used by most people, that is, until Ray Tomlinson decided that it would be a good symbol to use to separate a person's username from the name of the server at which they were logged on as a way of sending an electronic message by the new system which he had invented. We now call that system 'e-mail'. It was mostly used in bills and accounts to mean 'each at the price of', such as: "15 thingummyjigs @ $2.00 = $30.00" In Spanish and Portuguese it was used to represent a unit of weight, the arroba, and that is what they call the symbol there. Other countries have different names but many now call it just 'at' or 'the at mark' or something similar. It's sad that Ray Tomlinson, the person who gave us the @, died today. He was 74 and a little younger than me. Do you have a name for that little squiggle in your language and what memories or incidents connected with it do you have? Perhaps you have used it in the wrong place at some time, with unexpected results"
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
8 Mar 16
I can't remember what that "at" symbol is really called indeed . But it's now a powerful sign , don't you think so ?
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
9 Mar 16
@Bluedoll I agree . I have a Gmail account yet i don't use it but my yahoo account only .
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
9 Mar 16
@SIMPLYD I method I've used is to send mail to myself so I have a record. Plus it is always nice to get friendly mail from someone we admire though perhaps vain.
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
8 Mar 16
I guess it could be considered powerful in that it represents a mail deposit box. So that gives people a way to be contacted. Just don't get too many of them or we might loose track?
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@JudyEv (340019)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Mar 16
I'm not sure I've ever called it anything. Maybe just 'at'. And I've always wondered how to spell 'thingummyjigs'.
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
8 Mar 16
Not taking anything away from Ray Tomlinson for he indeed was the first to implement the Arpanet system. What I find interesting is how any invention is always spring boarded from other work. In this case a method called packet switching had been worked on by a Donald Davies computer scientist who is also up in age now. 75 to be exact from what I've read.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
8 Mar 16
It's quite true that he got his idea for his 'messaging system' after reading a proposal for a rather complex system, when he asked himself "Surely this can be done much more simply?" and so built his system and the Simple Message Transfer Protocol (now known as SMTP).
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
9 Mar 16
@owlwings I don't find it simple. What are these guys?
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
10 Mar 16
@Bluedoll They are simple folk with simple pleasures who like to concoct simples to heal the ills of common folk like you and I.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
7 Mar 16
I remember when it was only used in the manner you said, to denote the price of something. Does it not have an official name?
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
8 Mar 16
Unicode call it the 'Commercial at', which would abbreviate to 'c-at'. I was surprised that, among all the different names for it in different languages, nobody calls it the 'cat'!
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@antonbunot (11093)
• Calgary, Alberta
8 Mar 16
If I am not mistaken we used this symbol as a short for AND when I was in college. That was loooonnggg time ago!
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
8 Mar 16
I believe that some people do use it (incorrectly) as short for 'and'. Of course we already have a perfectly good (and proper) symbol for that in the ampersand - '&'.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
8 Mar 16
@pgntwo Yes, it does. All of these symbols (including, of course, each letter of our alphabet) has a fascinating story to tell. I used to love Kipling's story of the alphabet when I was a child (though I knew it was fiction, of course, Best Beloved!)
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
8 Mar 16
@owlwings The ampersand has an interesting story behind it too, one which eludes me for the moment...
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@Moon18 (29)
• India
8 Mar 16
i think it just like a round grond up sweets
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• Philippines
7 Mar 16
that's sad, thanks to him we have this symbol for a reason now.
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@jstory07 (139717)
• Roseburg, Oregon
7 Mar 16
Thanks for the history of @. i did not know those things.
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• United States
7 Mar 16
I have cursed at it a few times, but I don't call it by name.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
7 Mar 16
Simply, the "at" symbol, @. I thought Mr Tomlinson found an excellent use for it, much better than the previous Usenet method of using bangs, or plings or exclamation points and a chain of hosts... ...cuny!csvax!icvax!ed!cs!tardis!fizz The username was way out at the right, and the chain of names was the logical steps, host to host...
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• Midland, Michigan
6 Apr 16
I never gave it much thought on why or how that symbol began to be used with emails and other things. I didn't realize you were that much older than me either. I'll be sixty-four this coming July. I never heard it referred to as animals, in fact, I was about scratching my head at your title and image as I didn't put the two of them together. Btw, I found this post on the side bar suggestions.
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@GrannyGee (3517)
• Louisburg, North Carolina
7 Mar 16
This was very interesting as I never thought about it ... I thought of it as the 'at sign' ... :)
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@Lucky15 (37374)
• Philippines
8 Mar 16
I just know it as...at sign
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@Daljinder (23236)
• Bangalore, India
8 Mar 16
Uhhh.... I really have to look at the image closely to find monkey and elephant in there. I only found the cat. We read that symbol as 'at' or 'at the rate'.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Mar 16
arraghh ugh bad words makes me think of this @ArvindDixit grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr y uck ught at least the crook paid me before his ugly closing of b ubblews ugh
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Mar 16
too in the curve is like a c,a in the at sign and stretching a lot the stem of the At sign is straght you have t i k now its a re al stretch lol lol
@yalul070 (1713)
• Manila, Philippines
8 Mar 16
the hashtag. for a long time it meant numbers to me.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
8 Mar 16
The '@' is different from the hash[tag] ('#'). The Americans call the '#' the pound sign because it was used to represent the pound (weight). I don't know if it is still used that way. I think that it's more usual to use 'lb'. I usually see it used to represent ordinal numbers or numbers from a sequence (as in 'Catalogue #356' meaning 'Number 356 in the catalogue').
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@yalul070 (1713)
• Manila, Philippines
8 Mar 16
@owlwings oh yeah I thought you were asking about symbols that I felt so lost using for the first time, given new meanings. I use @ to mean "price", e.g. boots @$1 per pair
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@amnabas (14128)
• Karachi, Pakistan
7 Mar 16
I liked the curling cat one.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
7 Mar 16
@= at, lol, at least for for what I have known
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@AnneEJ (4917)
• Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, Quebec
7 Mar 16
I often wonder how we could get by without that little symbol. I use it a lot in my passwords, as well as in my writing.
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