A Hole In The Arm Is Better Than No Arm At All.

Photo from Wikimedia Commons, public domain.
By Jabo
@jaboUK (64354)
United Kingdom
April 5, 2016 2:12pm CST
I've just read @JudyEv 's post about soldiers in WW1 and thought I would tell you about my grandfather. He had a bullet hole in his arm, and I remember poking my finger into it while he told me how he got it. He was already in the army as a regular soldier when war broke out in 1914. He'd seen action in India and Afghanistan, and his regiment was recalled to go to fight in France. They were amongst the first troops there, but they were poorly equipped, not even having steel helmets. Instead they had Foreign Legion type hats, those with a flap down the back to protect them from the sun in India. Despite this he managed to get through the first two years comparatively unscathed, even surviving a gas attack at Ypres (they called it Wipers). He and his comrades managed to do this by shoving sods of earth over their mouths and noses to try and filter the gas. Then in 1916 he was in the trenches and got a bullet in his arm. The doctor decided to amputate, but Grandad caught German Measles and the operation was put off. When he'd recovered sufficiently to withstand the operation he was seen by a different doctor, who decided the arm could be saved. I've always thought it ironic that his arm was saved due to 'German' measles, when of course it was the Germans who had shot him. He was invalided out of the army and was able to live a full and useful life. As a child I used to love sitting on his knee listening to his tales. Do you remember any stories your Grandad told you? ------------------------------------------------ Here is the link to JudyEv 's post : Photo - Wikimedia Commons.
Recently we visited the National ANZAC Centre in Albany on Western Australia's south coast. As part of our visit, we were each given a small card with personal...
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
5 Apr 16
When my grandfather was 94 years old and in a nursing home I went to visit him and I found out he was a cook in the German army in WW1. Then I also found out he and my grandmother did not coming to the US together, I had always thought they came here as a married couple but now I understand they did not. When my grandmother came here to the US she worked at the same ranch my grandfather did and they had known each other in Germany as they came from the same area, it was very interesting to find all this out.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
5 Apr 16
@jaboUK It had never dawned on me to ask about anything like that and now I wish I had asked more questions.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
6 Apr 16
@jaboUK I know but sometimes it is hard to find out things about our history.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@Marcyaz I do too - there is so much more that I would like to know.
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
5 Apr 16
Thats is Irony on Irony in a German fashion of note - love the tales from my dad as well and I miss them
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@Inlemay Have you got your dad's stories written down? And no stories from your grandfather?
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@Inlemay That's the way to do it.
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
5 Apr 16
@jaboUK I do have my fathers stories written down - and I repeat them to friends and my children all the time, so that they too will tell the next generation
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Apr 16
my grandpa was not in the wars but he was a black smith all his life.A gentle man, and a gentleman he was one wth nature butter flies lit on his shoulder and he cld fed squrrils ou t of his hand. He was my go to person if my mom was busy and I needed a friend.He listened without judging. I gave my parents kudos for havng my Grandpa ri chey live with us.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Apr 16
@jaboUK yes he was really a d ear person
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@Hatley That was great that you had your Grandpa living with you, and he sounds a lovely man.
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@Teep11 (7673)
• United States
5 Apr 16
What an intriguing story. It appears so many who went off to war came back with something. Bullets lodged in one part of their bodies. A bullet in the arm is better than losing that arm. I'm sure you're thankful for the war stories that were told by your grandfather.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@Teep11 Yes, I was enthralled as a child, but wished I'd asked him more.
@JudyEv (342088)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 16
Thanks for the mention Janet. Imagine trying to filter out the gas in that manner. I had an uncle come home with shellshock and he used to stammer really badly. It was the custom in my day to have a 21st birthday celebration. I took my aunt and uncle out to the farm to see the lovely gifts I'd received as they weren't able to go to the party and my uncle said he'd spent his 21st birthday in the trenches. I felt quite bad really that I was so privileged. It is good your grandfather was able to tell you stories.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@JudyEv If someone else's post triggers one of mine, I do like to give the credit, Judy. Your poor uncle - shellshock was a terrible thing, made even worse because you couldn't see it. It's hard to take in what the soldiers went through in the trenches, isn't it?
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@MarymargII I'm glad you were interested in this , thanks. Yes, the arm served him perfectly well for the rest of his life.
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@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
6 Apr 16
It's great to hear those old war stories and what a relief your grandfather had after hearing teh news about his arm- i'm sure.
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@Mike197602 (15512)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
My grandad that I knew was a pilot in ww2 and my grandad that I knew but can't remember was an officer in the Indian army in ww2. My great grandad was in ww1 and got gassed then killed himself I've got his lieutenants pips and his belt and leather pouches...the belt has 1914 stamped into it. Pretty cool to have a leather belt that's over 100 years old
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@Mike197602 You are obviously at least a generation behind me - my father and uncle were in WW2. How sad about your great-grandad, but it's great that you have some of his things.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@Mike197602 Do you have any medals? I have some of my grandad's and also a great uncle's.
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@Mike197602 (15512)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@jaboUK my family was/is very big on history. I've loads of things. Bits of uniforms, war pictures, bullets, shells and all sorts.
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@much2say (56053)
• Los Angeles, California
8 Apr 16
Thank goodness his arm healed up! I always wondered if all those amputations were necessary back then - but oh that's how they took care of such injuries back then. I never met my father's father . . . he passed away in Japan when I was about 7. The only memories I have of my mother's father is him in a hospital bed, mumbling as that's all he could do to communicate. He suffered a stroke and refused to fight back to get functioning again, so there remained in a hospital bed - moving from nursing home to nursing home until he finally passed away when I was about 12.
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@much2say (56053)
• Los Angeles, California
9 Apr 16
@jaboUK I never had grandmother experiences either - although I did meet one. Oh my ...I freak out thinking of the amputation process back then. So did your grandfather's arm heal well other than the hole?
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
9 Apr 16
@much2say I'm so sorry that you were denied the pleasure of a grandfather's tales. About the amputations - they probably thought it was easier just to chop limbs off, rather than actually treat shattered bones.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
9 Apr 16
@much2say Yes it did, and the hole did heal to a certain extent too - it was just an indentation about an inch deep. Deep enough for little fingers to explore
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• China
8 Apr 16
They say "every bullet has it billet",your granddad was fortunate enough to survive the WW1-that is something! If only there were no war in the world.Now people from all over the world should make concerted effort to keep history from repeating itself .
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• China
9 Apr 16
@jaboUK Yes ,it is of concern to us .Worse still,there is nuclear threat in the world these days .
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
8 Apr 16
@changjiangzhibin89 But does the world ever learn? Just a generation after WW1 came WW2, and there are still wars all over the globe today.
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@vhpsandi (358)
• Mumbai, India
6 Apr 16
Lucky you to have the chance to spend with your grand dad. I did not even have the opportunity to spend time with my parents. Reason? War again.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@vhpsandi Oh poor you - what war was that?
@vhpsandi (358)
• Mumbai, India
6 Apr 16
@jaboUK The revolution that took place in Iran in 1979, we were religious refuges to India. All 5 siblings left while my parents stayed back.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@vhpsandi Did you manage to reunite afterwards?
• United States
7 Apr 16
most interestin' indeed to've gotten the 'german measles' 'fter bein' shot by 'em. i'm glad though that he got 'em 'n was then seen by a diff'rent surgeon. makes ya wonder how many'f our soldiers through the years got limbs amputated that really didn't need such. saddens the heart to think'f the thousands. i recall many tales my papaw told me, wish i'd written 'em all down though fer the next generations.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
7 Apr 16
@crazyhorseladycx Regarding the amputations - it doesn't really bear thinking about. There are bound to have been unnecessary ones, especially in the makeshift surgeries they had 100 years ago. Is it too late to write down your papaw's tales?
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• United States
7 Apr 16
@jaboUK i've dribbled some'f 'em out, more come to mind with jest seein' certain thingies 'r hearin' some ol' fella's laughter that's 'kin to my memories'f his. yes ma'am, i shudder't the thought :(
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@antonbunot (11093)
• Calgary, Alberta
7 Apr 16
I don't remember much about my late grandpa . . I was 7 when he kicked the bucket. I could not forget that he got small hands like Donald Trump!
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
7 Apr 16
@antonbunot Sorry that you don't remember too much about your grandfather. I hope he wasn't too much like Trump!
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@antonbunot (11093)
• Calgary, Alberta
7 Apr 16
@jaboUK No, Trump is weirdly UNIQUE!
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@Lucky15 (37374)
• Philippines
6 Apr 16
I can imaging.how the young janet would sit and listen to her granddad and poking his arm. Lovely memories. It was our parents who would tell us some tales about our granddad--father's side.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@Lucky15 Yes, these memories go back 70 years when I used to sit on Grandad's knee. Did you not know your grandfather?
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@Lucky15 It sounds as if he lead an interesting life.
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
6 Apr 16
that is a heart-felt story, my friend. I did not hear any war stories from my grandparents, but my late parents had many stories to tell, like my mother (+) had to dress like a man so the Japanese soldiers will not "use" her for pleasure.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@ridingbet Oh my goodness Ingrid - how terrible that your mother had to do that, but what a good idea.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@ridingbet You could make a great post about her, you know
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
6 Apr 16
@jaboUK yes, and she even narrated how she was followed, at dusk, a fireball like St. Elmo's Fire(we call this sanselmo in our language) which she thought was a ghost or something like that while she was reaping some corn (she was dressed as a man).
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@Ronrybs (19584)
• London, England
5 Apr 16
Glad he made it through the war. It is good to hear these stories. There was so much sacrifice, it should be remembered
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
5 Apr 16
@Ronyrbs When my generation is gone there will be no-one left who heard these stories first hand. That's why I try to write about them, though In realise they aren't everybody's cup of tea. It's 100 years since my Grandad was shot.
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@cherriefic (10399)
• Philippines
6 Apr 16
Unfortunately, my grandfather didn't live that long to share his stories.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@cherriefic That's such a pity, grandfathers can be such a source of joy.
@simone10 (54187)
• Louisville, Kentucky
6 Apr 16
Medicine sure has changed since then, hasn't it? Scary to think how close he came to losing his arm because of a bullet.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@simone10 I think the amputation was considered the best option because of the location of the bullet - it was very near his elbow.
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@simone10 (54187)
• Louisville, Kentucky
7 Apr 16
@jaboUK Oh, I can see why now. I bet it took a while for it to heal in a place like that.
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@Tampa_girl7 (50525)
• United States
6 Apr 16
I loved to hear stories from all of my grandparents.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@Tampa_girl7 You are one of the lucky ones who knew your grandparents, just like me.
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@PainsOnSlate (21852)
• Canada
6 Apr 16
What an interesting story. The only grandfather i met was my Mother's dad who was a dairy farmer, I loved him and did hear stories from him. The funniest was the Elephant that got lose on the mountain by his house. Maybe I'll write about it... it had nothing to do with war. I think my grandfather because he was a farmer, they were exempt from the military because the country needed milk and food...
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
7 Apr 16
@PainsOnSlate Yes farmers were regarded as a 'reserved occupation' over here too. Can't wait to read about the elephant!
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• Canada
7 Apr 16
@jaboUK I made a not to write about the elephant and packing for camping...
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
6 Apr 16
I have not any stories. Your granddad stories is really exiting. I think in those time India witnessed many war actions .
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@shshiju Yes, as I said in the post, my Grandad's regiment was in India prior to the war. Not sure if they were fighting or what .
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
7 Apr 16
@jaboUK They fought for life and existence , that is terrible.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
6 Apr 16
Holy smokes, how amazing is that @jaboUK ! Sometimes I wonder how any of those guys managed to survive.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
6 Apr 16
@nanette64 A lot of them didn't survive Nanette. Here's part of a poem I wrote: Many young men lost their lives, Never more to dance, No more to see their loving wives, They left their bones in France.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
7 Apr 16
@jaboUK Excellent poem and how sad too at the same time.
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