Homeless Man's Greed
By Jeff Moffitt
@moffittjc (121546)
Gainesville, Florida
April 10, 2016 8:13pm CST
This afternoon for lunch, I stopped by a local fast-food chicken restaurant to grab a bite to eat. As I was approaching the entrance, a homeless man approached me and asked for $3. I told him I didn't carry cash (the truth), and asked him what he wanted the $3 for. He said he was hungry, so I said, "Follow me partner, I'll get you something to eat!" So into the restaurant we went.
I asked the guy what he was going to buy for $3. He said he wanted some chicken wings. The smallest order on the menu was 5 wings for $5.99. I told him that was much more than $3, but I would get it for him.
When it was my turn to order, I told the homeless man to tell the cashier what he wanted, since I didn't know what kind of sauce he wanted his wings dipped in. He then stepped up and placed an order for a dozen wings (which I didn't catch), and then asked how many pieces of garlic bread came with the order. The cashier replied "One." He then told her he wanted two pieces (which she charged for, little did I know). I followed him with my order, and then when the total came up, I was a little floored. His order alone stood close to $15, not counting mine. I laughed and told him he sure was getting a lot for his "$3," but went ahead and paid for it anyway.
When his order came up, he started arguing with the cashier about how they didn't put enough sauce on the wings, and then they didn't give him enough pieces of celery, and they should give him two packets of blue cheese, not one. I was like, "Wow, he's a very grateful person, now isn't he?"
I laughed it off, because I didn't mind paying for the man's food. I just thought he should have been a little more grateful about it, and not given the cashier such a hard time. He didn't even thank me for getting him the food! After he left, I went up and apologized to the cashier for the man's rudeness.
Have you ever experienced an interesting situation with a homeless person?
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36 responses
@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
Well, the celery certainly doesn't have much nutritional value, that's for sure! lol
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@allen0187 (58582)
• Philippines
12 Apr 16
LOL @Rollo1 !!! I'm stocking up on celery and blue cheese then!
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@Ruby3881 (1963)
• Canada
12 Apr 16
@moffittjc It may not have a lot of calories, but celery does contain a good number of vitamins, minerals and other nutrients. It's also treated as a sort of luxury ingredient, if one regularly eats at soup kitchens or receives food from a food bank. Most poor people simply can't afford it.
So while a couple of celery sticks are probably just window dressing for a lot of folks, and many probably just leave them uneaten on the plate, that homeless guy may not have tasted celery in a long time. Maybe he just really wanted to make the most of the opportunity! It's tough to put ourselves in the shoes of a homeless person, because their lives are so incredibly different from ours....
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@DWDavis (25805)
• United States
11 Apr 16
I've never had that happen with a homeless person, but I'd venture to guess the man had some issues besides being homeless.
I did once have a situation where a student spend all his lunch money at the gift shop on a field trip so when we got to the fast food place he had no money for lunch. I have him a few dollars and told him to order a hamburger, fries, and a small drink off the dollar menu. He came back to me a few minutes later and told me I hadn't given him enough. Turns out he'd ordered a Big Mac, large fries, and a large shake, with a chocolate chip cookie for dessert. I let him keep the Big Mac and fries. I enjoyed the shake and cookie. He made due with a cup of water.
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@DWDavis (25805)
• United States
11 Apr 16
@moffittjc This young man showed no gratitude at all and acted like he was entitled to whatever he wanted and I was wrong to try an limit what I"d pay for. He is one of the new cohort of "entitled" kids who never seem to be grateful for anything done for them.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
@DWDavis Wow, you experienced first hand this whole "entitlement" thing from today's generation! I don't envy you at all! lol
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
You wouldn't believe how many school field trips I've chaperoned over the years where that same thing has happened to me! It never fails that I always had to loan some kid money or buy them food because they either didn't come prepared, or their family just didn't have the money to give them. But in the case of the kids, they were always very grateful and appreciative of the help. I know how humiliated they would feel if all the other kids knew they didn't have money.
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@GardenGerty (160612)
• United States
11 Apr 16
He may not even have been homeless. Last year, In Kansas City , Ks. my sister and I stopped at Wendy's after a medical procedure. A large man approached me as I opened my door. He put his hand on my shoulder and told me he needed gas money, his kids were in the car and it was out of gas over on the road. We do not carry cash, said so and went in. Mentioned it to the cashier and she called the manager. Evidently this guy hangs out there and always has some story. Manager has fed him before and offered him work, no go. There were no children, no stalled car. Man came back into the restaurant with a different story and got sent on his way.
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
13 Apr 16
@moffittjc @GardenGerty I was just wondering how gas money is going to help if the guy is stranded with his kids in the car and no gas. Even if he has the money, he still has no way to get the gas in his vehicle unless he carries around a gas can. Still, he would have to leave the kids alone in a stranded vehicle on the side of the road and walk to the nearest gas station.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
14 Apr 16
@purplealabaster See, if you think about these stories they tell you long enough, they are often full of holes. I have no problem calling these liars out on their game, because they most likely can't respond they are so caught up in their lie!
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
That's a popular story we hear around here..."my car is out of gas down the road, and my family is waiting for me in the car. Can you spare some money?" It's very funny that the car is never anywhere nearby, it's always "down the road." lol
I always carry a gas can in the back of my truck, so whenever someone gives me that story, I grab the can out of the back of the truck and say "Let's go fill her up!" I get a good laugh at that because they don't know what to say at that point, since there is no car to fill up!
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
13 Apr 16
@moffittjc I don't think very many people do. LOL I guess it would be hard for them to get money begging. LOL Guess I will save my sign for a different year.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
14 Apr 16
@mommaj I've always thought of making a hand-made cardboard sign and sitting out by the side of the road begging for money. My sign would say, "Have 2 kids. Can't afford college. Please help."
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
I think that's what often makes me look like a bad guy when homeless people beg me for money. I NEVER carry cash. Ever. So even if I wanted to I couldn't give them any money!
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
13 Apr 16
That was very nice of you to do. I would not be able to do it, because I usually only carry enough cash for whatever I need. I might be able to spare a couple of dollars, but I certainly could not have spent an extra $15 on someone else.
I am not homeless, but if someone is paying for my meal, then I try not to spend too much money. I always try to find items that I like but are less money than whatever the other person is going to have, because I think that is the polite thing to do.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
Darn it! All this talk about wings has now made me hungry for wings!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Apr 16
Since homeless people by definition spend all their time on the streets asking for money, they tend to settle into one of two categories. There are those who feel self conscious about asking for help and others who see most people as potential targets.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Apr 16
@moffittjc All that would really matter is how much of you pittance he could have.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
I'm sure he pegged me as a potential target. You know...government employee with deep pockets! If he only knew how bad the government pays its workers! LOL
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
@Asylum Which is saying, not much at all! lol
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@ElusiveButterfly (45940)
• United States
11 Apr 16
Wow, how ungrateful. We have homeless people in our small town. Some panhandle for change. They are always grateful for any amount given to them. I personally haven't encountered any.
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@ElusiveButterfly (45940)
• United States
11 Apr 16
@moffittjc that is the reason I do not give money to homeless people. In our small town there is an epidemic of heroin use.
There has been a few people stationed on the meridian between the entry and exit of our local Walmart plaza. They hold signs asking for help because they are hungry or out of work and say anything will help. With the many food shelves that are in our town, they need only go to one or two for help.
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@Elizaby (6902)
• Pensacola, Florida
11 Apr 16
@moffittjc We have a similar law here, but it hasn't really stop the panhandling
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
@Elizaby Our police had a very effective strategy for when the law was passed. Instead of arresting the homeless people for begging, they issued tickets to all the drivers who stopped to give the homeless money! After so many people started getting tickets, they stopped giving the homeless money! Now, you hardly ever see anyone doing that at intersections!
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@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
12 Apr 16
That is just awful! I have had an experience like this but first let me say that when my family was homeless and hungry we were grateful for a piece of bread!!
Anyway, my husband and I knew this homeless guy and he worked with my husband for a little bit. Our friend was looking for a room mate so we told him about the homeless guy. He agreed to let him stay with him! We were so excited for him.
Then a week later the homeless guy was complaining because our friend was too messy for him and the faucet dripped at night and kept him awake!! Seriously? He was living in an abandoned house before that! We also thought he should have been grateful for a warm place to stay but he wasn't at all-it bothered us a LOT.
He also complained that my husband wasn't paying him enough since he was only making $80 per day as a helper!
Some people will never be happy no matter what-sadly.
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@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
13 Apr 16
@moffittjc I guess, we thought it was pretty rude though with all the times we tried helping him. We also gave him a scooter to ride around instead of just using his regular bike-he complained about that too so we finally just completely stopped talking to him.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
Wow! Was that guy feeling entitled, or what? The nerve of him!
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
14 Apr 16
@LovingMyBabies Wow, this guy sounds like he was a real winner!
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
I really felt like saying something, but I decided to bite my tongue and let it go. Maybe he was having a bad day or something. Who knows.
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@akalinus (43169)
• United States
11 Apr 16
@moffittjc Later on, I was sitting by the window. I heard that woman tell another that she had $6 and asked how much she has. If she had been hungry, she would have taken the pie.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
I hear that all the time! If they tell me they are hungry, I'm going to give them food, not money! And then for them to refuse the food! How crazy is that? I don't care if they do want the money instead, if you're homeless then you should be very gracious for whatever is offered your way!
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@fishtiger58 (29820)
• Momence, Illinois
11 Apr 16
Yikes that was pretty nervy of him to order so much food. And as for his rudeness that was just plain mean of him. How could he not even thank you for paying for his food. Wow makes you almost think being a good guy is not worth it.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
@fishtiger58 Maybe I should be like the kids these days and just keep my head down glued to my smartphone, and then I could walk around oblivious to the world around me! Then I wouldn't have to care so much! I could just ignore everything around me because I'm too busy playing on Facebook or something! lol
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
After thinking about it some more, I did the right thing. Whether he was grateful or not is his problem, not mine. I don't want his actions to dictate my actions. I told him I would buy him some food, and I did. I lived up to my word. If he wants to go through life being an ungrateful and unthankful butthole, well that's on him. lol
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@fishtiger58 (29820)
• Momence, Illinois
12 Apr 16
@moffittjc Yup I hear you. You can only do so much.
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@Daljinder (23236)
• Bangalore, India
24 May 16
I am very much conflicted about what to say about the incident you mentioned. Should I pat your back and praise you? Or should I reprimand you? Since we live in opposite ends of the world and there is a lot of cultural, social, traditional, etc.. etc... differences. I guess I will just say you've done a good job! And it definitely is a good job! You fed a homeless person.
Over the times we have encountered several homeless people. Every couple of weeks, sometimes days, a homeless beggar will knock on our door. We try to never turn such a person away empty handed. Be it food or loose change, we always give them something. Sometimes clothes too. (Nowadays we avoid giving cash and try to help another way)
There is actually this lady who roams the streets in our locality from the time she wakes up in the morning to the time she goes to sleep in the night. Whenever we come across her, we feed her and get her water to drink. Some other lady has a small room which she lent her for free recently. That lady used to sleep at roadside in chilled winters.
There used to be a man who picked up trash in our steet. Not homeless exactly. But he was very very poor. Always in rags and going without food so his family could eat. We knew where he lived so we knew what his situation was. But he never asked for help. He could have. A time came when his daughter was to be wed. Only time he broke down and swallowed his pride, begged for help to my grandma. I still remember him on his knees. Yes his knees! We did help. Now that he had finally open up and asked for help, we kind of took advantage of the situation. Gave him TV since we were about to buy the upgraded one. Gave him some furniture like bed, some cash, clothes, etc... Well he asked so he had to deal with it.
Imagine me returning home after a long travel due to some work. I am late for my meal. Mom plates my food for me as soon as I step in. I sit down after getting freshen up and about to take a bite. LOL There is a knock on the door. And who's there? Some homeless guy and once it was a small child. Without thinking twice, I picked up the plate Mom made for me and gave my food to that homeless person.
It isn't something made up. It has happened. Call me stupid but the thing is that person has not had any food for who knows how long. He needs the food more than me. I can go without one meal. Wouldn't kill me or hurt me. Only difference here, I never expect any thank you or any expression of gratefulness. No amount of gratefulness can beat the feeling you get seeing the smile and the twinkle in their eyes. Blame my Dad for that. Out of his three children, he gave that trait to me.
Coming back to the incident you described. The title says "Homeless man's greed" That greed is out of desperation, their whole circumstances, situations! Who knows what things that person went through? Agreed there are all sorts of homeless people. But the person you described appeared to be hungry in truth. He did not make it up to con some cash out of you. He very well could have.
I don't know how homeless or beggar situation go over at your end. But I don't find his "ungratefulness" as rude to be honest. Forgetfulness, distraction, disconnect from society, etc... may have been the reason. Who knows? I don't find his demand for more sauce as an act of ungratefulness either. Hunger, greed, taking advantage of an out of norm situation.... all consequences of his homeless situation. Can't blame him for that. I would actually suspect him if he did not behave this way. Well that is how I see the situation. That's my opinion.
P.S. And blame @VivaLaDani13 for my visit here. She digs up old posts and some of them are very interesting. I get to read them through her. That is one of the reason I check her activity when I can't find interesting things to read. Thanks Dovey! =)
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
24 May 16
I actually ran into this homeless man again, and he remembered me from back when I bought him that meal. He thanked me then, and told me he was really having a bad day that day I bought him lunch. He was just as nice as could be. We actually sat and talked for a few minutes before he had to catch a bus downtown to where a church was giving away food. It warmed my heart to be able to talk with him, even if only for a few minutes.
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@Ruby3881 (1963)
• Canada
12 Apr 16
Homeless people live in a very different world from the middle class. They get used to a hard life, and sometimes they forget their manners because of this. Many are also mentally ill, and may not be so great at interacting with others.
It's a wonderful thing that you fed him, and also that you apologized to the cashier for his grumpiness. I think the important thing to take away from an exchange like this is that you have enough that you can share, and that you chose to do so in a situation where many others would have dismissed the man.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
I was thinking that this man may have had some mental health issues that caused him to act the way he did. The other thing they may affect people's behavior is when they have substance abuse problems, although it didn't look like this guy had that kind of problem.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
14 Apr 16
@Ruby3881 That makes perfect sense! It's tough on the streets. You have to do whatever you have to do to survive.
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@Ruby3881 (1963)
• Canada
13 Apr 16
@moffittjc This is often the case with homeless folks. Self-medicating for a mental illness is common. And of course, people just learn to be tough and gruff when they live on the streets. It's a matter of survival.
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@allen0187 (58582)
• Philippines
11 Apr 16
Happened to me although under different circumstances. I've dealt with ungrateful people before - perhaps more so than my fair share!
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@allen0187 (58582)
• Philippines
12 Apr 16
@moffittjc easier said than done though but yeah, I agree with you - let's not make other people affect our own moods!
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
I'm sure we all deal with our fair share of ungrateful people on a daily basis. I don't let it bother me. I'm not going to let other people's sour moods destroy my day!
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
@allen0187 If it was that easy, I would have figured out a way to patent it and make a fortune selling the recipe! We're fallible human creatures, so whether we like it or not, our moods are effected by the actions of those around us.
@maezee (41988)
• United States
12 Apr 16
What an experience indeed. Usually when I drive by a panhandler if I have something extra - a banana or soda or something I will offer it up yo them and 99% of the time they say yes and are super thankful. I went out to eat once recently and had some leftovers so I offered it to a panhandler who turned it down! I was kind of shocked but he said pasta gave him indigestion. Not nearly anything like your expetrience. I would be frustrated after that. But remember...hes just one person!
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@maezee (41988)
• United States
13 Apr 16
@moffittjc thats very selfless of you. Hope your kids didnt go hungry though :-)
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
@maezee Haha, no, I was able to cook something for them at the house, so they didn't go hungry.
@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
I know it was probably an isolated incident. About a year ago, I stopped at a KFC on the way home from work and bought three meals...one for me and one for each of my two kids. As I was walking out the door of the restaurant, I saw a homeless man on the side of the road with a sign that said "anything helps. God bless." I walked over to him, asked him if he was hungry, and when he said yes I asked him if I could sit down and have a meal with him. Needless to say, when I got home my kids didn't get any KFC that night!
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
27 Apr 16
I was kind of floored by this story and thought what a really nice guy you are to do that. Then I thought maybe there should be a marking training school for how to sell yourself and follow up properly as a homeless rep.
It might have been better just to order something with an extra portion for your new found friend? There seemed to be a problem when him having control of ordering. Yep he has high stress levels of being homeless influencing how he behaves.
I've seen people sweep, carry groceries, clean windshields, sell something, even give advice as life consultants or conduct interviews in exchange for food. As soon as you wrote he asked for.. it gave me a clue as to how the story might end.
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
28 Apr 16
@moffittjc I wasn't there but my bet is on that his conception of money is very messed up. We know how difficult it is to obtain. It requires our work, our determination and our constant diligence. He might think since he hasn't any everyone else has lots of it and it falls off the trees in their yard. I'm not sure but it does make you wonder what goes on in their head.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Apr 16
I guess I'll know for next time! I had too much faith in his ability to not take my offer for granted.
@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Apr 16
@Bluedoll I think you hit the nail on the head! Not having a job, or a source of income (since they're homeless) really messes up their sense or reality. But on the flip side, because homeless people have to beg for every penny they get, it might make them appreciate the value of money even more. Who knows, it could go either way. In this case, I think he was just taking advantage of a nice guy and taking as much as he could.
@carebear29 (31962)
• Wausau, Wisconsin
11 Apr 16
We went to McDonald's today and a girl didn't have enough for her blizzard she wanted. She was like $0.30 short but before I could say anything the manager told her not to worry about it and let her have one.
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@GardenGerty (160612)
• United States
11 Apr 16
@moffittjc Trusting you was an investment.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Apr 16
I had that happen to me one time when I was in college, I went to a Wendy's after work late one night, and after I ordered my food I realized I had left my wallet back at work. The manager was nice enough to pay for my food for me. Needless to say, not only did I go back the next day and pay back the meal, but I made sure to eat there as much as I could to show that manager my appreciation!
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
@GardenGerty That's for sure! It made a loyal customer out of me for a really long time!
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@DaddyEvil (137257)
• United States
24 Apr 16
Hmmm... your experience was interesting.... I would have done some checking before I even thought about doing that...
Yeah, I had a guy ask me for money as I was leaving my job for the day. (I work at Walmart.) I told him Walmart was hiring. He got indignant and told me he would never work for Walmart! I told him that he was asking for money from someone who works at Walmart, though...
He tried to tell me there was a big difference.... I walked away.
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@DaddyEvil (137257)
• United States
25 Apr 16
@moffittjc I've been there just over eight years. I am a Connection Center associate in my store. (#1009 in Republic, Mo.)
A few years ago one of the corporate people told some of the associates that Walmart was no longer a family oriented work place. It was a business trying to make profits and would be run as a business trying to make profits. Family has no place in a business environment.
I think Sam must be spinning in his grave!
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
26 Apr 16
@DaddyEvil It's interesting that this is their take on running a business now. I can tell you, when Sam was alive it WAS a family business, the customer was always right, associates were treated fairly, honesty and integrity was a way of life, and guess what? The company's profits were through the roof!!!! (I know, as a stock holder back in those days, I made an absolute KILLING on the growth of the stock value). Look at the company now...they're trying to cut corners everywhere they can and squeeze margins out of wholesalers just to struggle to maintain a profit margin. Year-over-year same-store sales are pathetic, there's labor issues, the stores are dirty, under-staffed, and the company as a whole is thought of negatively by the consumer. If that's corporate's idea of "running a business," I weep for the future of Wal-Mart. (don't interpret this as a Wal-Mart bashing comment, but just trying to point out that there's better ways to run a company than the way Wal-Mart is running theirs right now).
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@sevanjan96 (50)
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12 Apr 16
Goodness! If someone were to offer me some food I'd be grateful for it. I mean, yeah he ordered things that cost more than the $3 he was asking for, but he still should've said thank you and been nice to the cashier. Plus he should've asked if it was okay if he got what he got since it was more than $3.
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@moffittjc (121546)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Apr 16
Maybe he's just been treated so badly by people his whole life that he feels everyone is against him, or out to get him. I could understand if that caused him to be very guarded about showing emotion.
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@sevanjan96 (50)
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13 Apr 16
@moffittjc When you put it that way, I totally agree. But if it were for another reason then I don't know.
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