Is there one God, many Gods, no God or what?
By Ramanand
@ramanandg (72)
Jabalpur, India
May 7, 2016 5:31am CST
Mainly, we have four or five religions all over the globe that are being followed by billions of people and there are other small religions in different other regions of the world . A follower of a particular religion would say that "his/her" God is the only "God." He is the "ultimate one," and He will relieve us from our sufferings. What about others?
I am a Hindu, and a proud one, and I have read and listened hundreds of books and discourses over different religions, beliefs, philosophies. I do meditation and yoga on a regular basis and sometimes, I feel He is with us everywhere and every time and that He is not confined simply to a sacred building. And therefore, I feel I should try to be good not only inside the temple but anywhere and everywhere.
I feel God does not take sides because if He take sides then He is a kind of a "police man," which he is not. He is the observer. We all dwell in Him.
The question arises why cannot we see Him. I think it is because we all are dwelling inside Him like a fish which when inside an ocean does not know the vastness of the ocean. It only knows about it when it comes out of it but sadly, it dies there itself.
A part cannot visualize the whole. We are a part of God and we cannot see Him. But there are a few ones in the world who by going deep into a meditative state had been one with Him. There problem is that they cannot explain it to us, because the medium is language/words. A simple word could be perceived in more than 6 billion ways if listened by 6 billion different people. The "oneness" cannot be explained. It can only be understood by being one with the "whole". Still the "one" cannot feel/see the "whole" but can be one with the "whole."
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@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
12 May 16
I'm happy to see that you are a spiritual person. Yes, there are many different beliefs. I believe in one Almighty God (Jehovah), who would be the source of everyone and everything. That seems to make the most sense to me.
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
12 May 16
@ramanandg I'm happy to meet other spiritually-inclined people. As we swim down the river towards God (the ocean) we have to be careful that the pollution doesn't harm us spiritually.
@ramanandg (72)
• Jabalpur, India
12 May 16
Thanks for believing in me as a spiritual person. I believe in every religion as they are all like rivers that might originate anywhere but in the end merges with the mighty ocean who we call God.
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@ramanandg (72)
• Jabalpur, India
13 May 16
@1hopefulman while swimming down the river and if we meet the pollutants, our spirituality will make them clean and worth itself.
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@ramanandg (72)
• Jabalpur, India
8 May 16
Very true! Every believer/follower wants to maintain and should maintain its individuality and that's why we have a bouquet of colorful flowers of beliefs and religions. The only bad thing is that when some take undue advantage of religious feelings for their ulterior motives and make gullible person fight in the name of religion.
@mavlana (1019)
• India
8 May 16
@ramanandg We are born as individuals...but we make parties..mix our individuality and what comes as result is always as horrible as adultered things.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
7 May 16
There is only one Creative Principle but it is visualised differently by different religions. Christians call it "God", Muslims call it "Allah", Hindus (and Greek and Roman and several other extinct religions) perceive it as different personalities with specific purposes and specialities. Some people do not accept any specific, separate personality but, instead, see the Creative Principle as being an essential part of everything - all matter in the Universe.
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@ramanandg (72)
• Jabalpur, India
8 May 16
I agree with you that the universe is like a one whole body and we are parts of it and energy is flowing from one part to another, from one part to everything/everyone and from everything/everyone to every individual.
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@melindataylor22 (959)
• Waltham, Massachusetts
8 May 16
I believe in 1 God who is supernatural, omnipotent, omnipresent, all powerful, loving, forgiving, filled with grace...but I am also open to other beliefs and religions. I am a Christian and love the Holy Trinity with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. But I believe that other religions have valuable things to teach as well so I am open to learning new things. I also feel that there are similar themes in different religions that are taught in different ways. I believe that we all have the right to decide what we believe including atheists and agnostics. My faith is everything to me.
@Gina145 (3949)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
7 May 16
I don't believe that there are different Gods for different religions, even if they call him by different names. If everyone would accept that they were all worshipping the same God, maybe they'd stop fighting and we could have world peace.
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@gochunehal (782)
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8 May 16
I think there is only 1 god for all..We humans have made many gods according to their religion..
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@else34 (13515)
• New Delhi, India
7 May 16
@ramanandg,I am a Hindu from India.We worship idols,but believe that there is one God.All our idols represent the one and the same God.
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@HebrewGreekStudies (1646)
• Canada
15 May 16
Interesting, I can tell you are spiritual, and that is a very good thing. My issue with the concept of pantheism, that we are all part of God, is that if we are all part of God, why do we lack that knowledge of our divinity, and if all is part of the one, why are religions often mutually exclusive and having contradictory claims? If God was speaking in all of us, that lacks rational thought, and God being the highest source of Reason, it is inconsistent. For example, Christianity saying Jesus is the son of God, and Islam saying God has no son or no other-that is mutually exclusive, and both can not be true, much less from a source which says all is one, because those sources are saying all is not one.
It is sort of like saying we are all God...but, then God is killing God? While at the same time saying "thou shalt not kill"?
If we were God, then we wouldn't need someone to explain that to us, being God, we would know.
But your statement re. God not being a kind of cosmic cop, the Christian conception of God is that yes, being a God of justice, He does choose sides (example, the oppressed vs. their oppressors-He is concerened for the rights of widows and orphans), and defines between right and wrong.
In a world full of violence, that is not a bad thing.
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@ramanandg (72)
• Jabalpur, India
15 May 16
@HebrewGreekStudies What I meant to state was the very Existence/Nature is God. The whole existence is god. "God killing God" is happening in existence itself. It is like when you a view a tissue (human) sample under a microscope you will find some small cell like thinks dying, some are originating, some attacking others, some helping others in their repair. Having said that, if you are one of those small cell like structures inside a human body you will definitely feel the pain and/or joy with above mentioned things, but the body as a whole is healthy and functioning. Same is the universe/existence/God. It's all happening by itself. A wilder beast eats grass, a tiger eats the wilder beast and the tiger is hunted by a hunter. It is a very complicated thing to understand for anyone or to make others understand unless we reach the level where we are one with the universal consciousness. The universe is vibrating in a particular rhythm, if we, somehow, bring us to that level of vibration/consciousness, we will be able to feel the oneness and then will start seeing the things as they are and not as what we think they are. Our thinking is based on past experiences and we cannot judge the present on past experiences.
Jesus said, "Forgive them as they do not know what they are doing." - God killing God.
When we personify or give identity to God, we limit Him. God is omnipresent, it everywhere and in everything. The moment we give Him some name, identity, picture, structure, we make him limited. And we are too minuscule to define Him until and unless we merge in him.
That's why Buddha and Lord Mahavir meditated for years and attained the Truth. Experiencing God is an inner journey, being still, and going deep and deep to the very core of our soul.
Well, these are all talks, I am meditating regularly. What I concluded from listening and reading the various Saints and the few ones who have attained that oneness stage is that it is the ego which is the biggest obstacle. Let the ego down, you are one with God. But God is so near, in fact, within our heart, and still so far to meet. Letting one's ego down is the biggest challenge in the world. You can fast for 100 days, you can pray for weeks, you can do charity and service for decades but letting your ego out is the most difficult challenge for ones those are in path of spirituality.
@innertalks (22070)
• Australia
13 May 16
I think that the truth is that there is one God who loves himself in infinite ways, and this is only felt by him because he has created time based flesh beings that inhabit part of himself.
These beings can describe and reflect back to God's oneness the way that his love flows around his infinite parts, that are co-joining within him from or through the illusion of time.
First we must recognise God, and then connect to God, and so then realise at last that we love God. When we love God, we are listening to God. God is in us, and we are in God.
This means that when we listen to God, we are listening to ourselves, and when we listen to our true selves we are really listening to God.
"There is one God looking down on us all. We are all the children of one God. The sun, the darkness, the winds are all listening to what we have to say."
So said Geronimo, an American Indian (1829 - 1909)
Geronimo was an illustriously prominent leader from the Bedonkohe band of the Chiricahua Apache tribe.
@ramanandg (72)
• Jabalpur, India
13 May 16
@innertalks You have summarized exactly what Indian Vedas say, "Aham Brahmasmi" which means, I am God and the best way to describe this Sanskrit (Oldest language) phrase is, "It is only He and not Me, because I am dwelling in Him. Everything we see, feel, and do is happening in Him. We are like various forms of Him. He expresses himself through us. It is like waves in the ocean. When we see waves we differentiate them from the ocean but they are a part of it and not separate."
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@ramanandg (72)
• Jabalpur, India
14 May 16
@innertalks So true, we are all interconnected and energy flows from one another. It's the ego which makes us feel good or bad about others. If we meditate and reach the level that once Buddha attained we can be one with everyone and everything.
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@innertalks (22070)
• Australia
13 May 16
@ramanandg Well, what I said must contain some amount of generally acceptable truth in it then.
Are we any more than just a wave then that rises and falls, but in itself it can either be powerful or weak, at various times, but has no substance to itself really, as it is just a movement on top of the ocean.
Does God cause the movement though, or do we? Who creates the waves?
I think that the ocean of love is incredibly activated by any instance of it (i,e a part of the ocean, or us, or a part of God's love) reassuring itself of its continuity, but allowing this continuity to disperse itself again, and again then too.
We are individuals, but of the moment. We rise above an ocean only to fall back into it again. And yet each drop of the ocean is a part of God also, and only by joining to another drop, can we ever begin to love the whole as God does.
Which is why Jesus Christ told us to love one another as he loves us.
The waves are produced by the activity of the oneness/God expansively stretching itself/himself, across itself/himself in ever new ways. No two waves are the same because of God's input to them. We ride these waves, and are a part of them too I suspect.