'Stand Alone' Discussions.

Postcard from my friends
By Jabo
@jaboUK (64354)
United Kingdom
June 16, 2016 5:35pm CST
Do you ever open a post and have no idea what they are talking about? The author seems to assume that you have read their previous discussions , as it is liberally sprinkled with references to people and things of which you have no knowledge. In my opinion a post should be complete and self-explanatory, in other words it should 'stand alone'. Usually you only need a sentence to set the scene, even a word or two could suffice. For instance, if you are going to be talking about 'Sammy', how hard is it to write 'my dog Sammy' or 'my son Sammy', instead of assuming we know who Sammy is? That's a simplified example, but I'm sure you get my drift. Personally I like to leave no doubt of what I'm writing about, whether it's someone reading one of my posts for the first time, or an old friend. --------------------- The photo is of three postcards I received this week. The one from Illinois is from @fishtiger58, the leopards are from @Inlemay in South Africa, and the shell is from @Jeanniemaries in Florida. Thanks to them all.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
17 Jun 16
I agree. Even ongoing illnesses, home problems, etc. leave me confused. Should we actually return to older posts to find out what is going on? I think not. Thanks for expressing so beautifully what many of us have only thought about.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@DianneN I'm so glad that you are in agreement Dianne - we shouldn't have to go to older posts. Unless it's really interesting I very rarely do that, I just move on.
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@norcal (4889)
• Franklinton, North Carolina
17 Jun 16
I have occasionally referred to a previous post, but try to provide enough information that going back is not necessary, unless of course, the person is truly intrigued.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@norcal Referring to a previous post is fine, I have no problem with that. But if I have to go back to that one in order to understand the present post - that's what I don't like.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
17 Jun 16
It is human nature to assume that people are aware of whatever it is that you are talking or writing about. Naturally we try to ensure that we express ourselves completely on a site such as Mylot, but failing to do so easily happens.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK I fully agree and realise that it does not always happen, thus leaving the reader perplexed and uninformed. All that I am suggesting is that it is and understandable oversight for some members to make.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@Asylum Yes, I don't mean to seem censorious as I do know that it can be due to oversight.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@Asylum I know we all live in our own little worlds, but if we are writing on a site like this we should make ourselves clear.
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• United States
17 Jun 16
i got 3 cards this week, too! jest makes ya giddy, don't't? i've run 'cross those discussions, but hope i aint guilty'f doin' the same. prolly why i use "the pup", "the cat" 'n the like. then 'gain, sometimes i'll say "mr. whiskey" 'r one'f the other horses names perhaps without 'xplainin' who they'd be? e'en if'n i've been readin' someone's schtuff fer sometime, 'tis a tad confusin' tryin' to recall which all family members/friends/neighbors/pets belong to whom. particularly if'n they've not penned 'bout 'em fer a bit. i've the attention span'f a flea these days. folks need to not jest draw, but paint the picture :) big hugs 'n love!
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@crazyhorseladycx I'm pretty sure that you aren't guilty of this, Crazy. What a great way of putting it - they need to not just draw, but paint. That's nice that you got some postcards too. Luv back atcha.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@crazyhorseladycx I bought a card for you today, I'll send it off next week. Got a busy weekend here, working at the races today and tomorrow, then all the family round on Sunday for a meal (Father's Day, and also our wedding anniversary).
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• United States
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK i reckon if'n i t'weren't so lazy i could go back to check'n see ? thanks. yepperz, those cards're jest grand! i'm thinkin' 'f buildin' me a lil display thingy so's i can hang 'em here by the puter. ya know, so i can see 'em all the time :D big hugs 'n love!
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• United States
17 Jun 16
I have to agree that sometimes I'm confused too when reading a post & not exactly sure who they are talking about
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@Marilynda1225 I suppose people just don't think, they just assume we'll know who or what they mean.
@sol_cee (38219)
• Philippines
17 Jun 16
As you may recall, Sammy, who's not my dog because I don't have a dog. lol I just read a discussion like that and well, I moved on to another post without even reading who Sammy really was. I couldn't catch the writer's drift. My bad.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
Lol - not 'your bad' at all.
@sol_cee (38219)
• Philippines
17 Jun 16
@ridingbet Oh Sammy actually exists! lol
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
17 Jun 16
Sammy is my desktop... no, just kidding.
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@just4him (317089)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
17 Jun 16
I agree. I know I sometimes refer to a past post, but I also put enough information in it so that it does stand alone.
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK sometimes I think we can ask if there is something we don't understand as it makes for more discussion though asking what the whole post means might seem a little odd. - references can be put in as an option for the reader?
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@just4him It's fine to refer to another post, but we should be able to understand what people are saying without having to read it.
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
17 Jun 16
right, i also forgot momentarily that your dog is gone now, he went to the rainbow bridge
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• United States
17 Jun 16
I once wrote a post that even I was left puzzled by. Guess I wasn't feeling quite up to snuff. One of the responders questioned the relevance of the first paragraph to the rest of the post. After reading it a few times I realized that it had no relevance, deleted the first paragraph and went about my day. LOL When a post leaves me scratching my head, I just move on. No need to dig the hair out of the root trying to figure out what it is about.
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• United States
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK I too will comment on a few that tend to bounce around. But, those that just post willy nilly don't deserve even a like. They are clearly just posting for the sake of posting for earnings and not for interacting with our community.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@ElusiveButterfly You made me laugh about your own post. As for other people's - if they don't explain, I don't comment unless I know them well.
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@suziecat7 (3350)
• Asheville, North Carolina
17 Jun 16
I think most of my posts are "stand alone" but I'm not here as often as others. I agree though - it only takes a word of two to make it clear.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@suziecat7 I haven't noticed you being guilty of this
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@LadyDuck (471456)
• Switzerland
17 Jun 16
I fully agree with you, I hate when people mention names and I have no clues who is that person (or animal). Great postcards Janet.
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@LadyDuck (471456)
• Switzerland
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK Absolutely, the postcards are fun. The leopards are beautiful animals, cute big cats.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@LadyDuck I thought you would agree Anna - we seem to think alike on most things. The postcards are fun, aren't they?
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@GreatMartin (23672)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
17 Jun 16
OMG!!! People still send postcards!!!! Next you will tell me people know how to write!!
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@GreatMartin The postcards are becoming quite popular between myLotters - haven't you seen any of the posts about them? And yes, a few of us can still write
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@GreatMartin (23672)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
18 Jun 16
@jaboUK This is the first I have seen any reference to them!
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
17 Jun 16
Yeah - I love that you got so many - wow you are in the pound seats with postcards there!
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@Inlemay As you know I didn't ask for the cards, and I've been surprised at how much pleasure I got from receiving them
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK we are happy that you are happy
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@WorDazza (15830)
• Manchester, England
17 Jun 16
You have a dog AND a son called Sammy? That must get confusing!!
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@WorDazza Trust you to see something that's not there
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@WorDazza (15830)
• Manchester, England
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK Oh it's there! In black and white!! Well OK, maybe a light shade of grey!!
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@Lucky15 (37374)
• Philippines
17 Jun 16
Now i am trying tonfigure out if i have made or written something that confuses a lot here Am waitingnfor my postcard from one lotter. And forgot about sending you a message. Haha
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@Lucky15 I don't think you are guilty of confusing me Reine. Yup - I need an address if you want a card from me
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@Lucky15 (37374)
• Philippines
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK glad that i haven't janet..hope i won't. Lol
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
17 Jun 16
i have somewhat a retentive memory, and i get to understand some discussions that need to be refreshed.
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• Philippines
17 Jun 16
it's also good to take time to explain technical terms for us laymen to understand them
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@hereandthere That's another good point.
@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@ridingbet You may be able to remember, but not everyone can. What I'm saying isn't so much a case of remembering, as I'm really talking about people who mention things I've not come across before.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
15 Jul 16
cool post cards. any idea how much a regular card would be to send someone there from USA? and yes, i have been guilty of that kind of post myself. i am just not a great writer these days. to much training of writing short stories where i was told less is more or something like that. my mind is not as it used to be.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
16 Jul 16
@jaboUK thanks. guess 2 of our stamps might do it. postage is a bit confusing.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
16 Jul 16
@bunnybon7 I know that 'less can be more', but we still need to know what the 'less' is. I didn't take any notice of what the postage cost on the cards I received, but from here to the US its just over a pound - I think that might be about £1.30.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
16 Jul 16
@bunnybon7 Sorry I meant $1.30.
• Preston, England
20 Jun 16
there are a few readers who have read through a lot of my earlier posts after discovering me on here but most don't so yes, I try to keep each post as self-contained and complete as possible
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• Preston, England
20 Jun 16
@jaboUK very much so - I remember on Bubblews when I'd see a post entitled part 17 of 36 - put me off reading any of it rather than trying to find my way to the start
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
20 Jun 16
@arthurchappell That's true - I never read those 'series' posts. Having said that, I'm doing a series myself on Mylotters, but each one is independent of the others. People can jump in any time.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
20 Jun 16
@arthurchappell Yours are self-explamatory as far as I know Arthur. It's great when people do look up our earlier posts, but that's just them wanting to know more - they don't have to do it in order to understand the current post.
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@Tampa_girl7 (50273)
• United States
19 Jun 16
The postcards are fun to receive.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
19 Jun 16
@Tampa_girl7 Yes, they are
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
17 Jun 16
Yup. With you on that one. Context is king, otherwise it is all for aught...
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@pgntwo As usual, you put things so well.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK "And then I said to our Elsie, I said..."
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@CRK109 (14556)
• United States
17 Jun 16
That happens to me all the time. Many times I just move on to a new discussion because I have nothing to say when I don't even understand the meaning of the post.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@CRK109 That's my reaction too. The posters must be missing out if a lot of us just don't respond, which we most likely would if we knew what they were talking about.
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• Philippines
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK i was about to write about this same topic and the @crk109 said here what the gist of my post would have been - "someone came out and asked me who it was and what the background was. So now I remember to do that, because we all have new people coming in and reading what we write."
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@CRK109 (14556)
• United States
17 Jun 16
@jaboUK yes, exactly! I learned that lesson not long after I began writing here. Most of the people responding to me knew me from the bubble place, so I wrote one post about "Britt", but never said who that was. And someone came out and asked me who it was and what the background was. So now I remember to do that, because we all have new people coming in and reading what we write.
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@Daljinder (23236)
• Bangalore, India
17 Jun 16
I write on random topics. Whatever caught my interest at that time is put up for discussion. There is a little chance that it would be a continuation of previous post. If it is a continuation then I add the link or add only a line or two long summary. Not much! I am guilty of mixing up of topics but not missing information. Well I hope I am not. LOL! And those postcards, I wanted to ask you about them on someone's post where you mentioned them........... Ah! I remember it was Marsha's post where she was saying she was delivering a gift package to a friend after a year. I wanted to ask you to show me the picture of postcard. I wanted to know if they have changed or is there any difference from the ones I had seen here ages ago. But I got caught up in things offline. So, thanks for the picture!
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
17 Jun 16
@Daljinder Random topics are fine and are what this site is about. Random isn't the same as confusing. I'm happy that you liked the picture of the postcards.
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