Mozart? Scatology? Surely Not!
By Judy Evans
@JudyEv (342560)
Rockingham, Australia
July 3, 2016 9:50pm CST
I've been chatting with @CRK109 about Monet's kitchen being preserved for posterity. I said I didn't think I'd ever be famous enough for my kitchen to be preserved. Probably many famous people never expected that objects and places associated them would have such interest for future generations.
A number of letters and recreational music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's has been preserved. He and his family displayed much scatological humour in their correspondence to each other. The definition I found for scatology says 'obscene literature that is concerned with excrement and excretion'. Opinions differ as to why there was such preoccupation with such matters. One view is that interest in or tolerance for scatology is a specific trait of German national culture, to a greater degree than in other cultures. Others believe it is just one of a number of psychiatric conditions from which Mozart is believed to have suffered.
Mozart, his parents, sister and cousin, are all known to have written scatological letters to each other. It's not hard to find examples on the net if you search. I do wonder, however, if they might all have destroyed such correspondence if they had realised the letters would survive for generations.
Later: Edited to insert photo of Mozart instead of Bach. Apologies to all and thanks to those who put me right.
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@DaddyEvil (138051)
• United States
5 Jul 16
pony, do you know about the verses in two of his canons that have scatological terminology associated with them? I just read about this in Wikipedia...
Here is a link you can look at:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Reproduction of the original manuscript of Mozart's canon "Difficile lectu". The words "lectu mihi mars" were intended to be heard as "Leck du mich im Arsch", for which a relatively polite E
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@DaddyEvil (138051)
• United States
5 Jul 16
@TheHorse I am never too sure how much weight to give to Wikipedia articles, since they allow regular people to edit their articles, but that one seems to be genuine...
If it is correct, not just Germans of his day, but some Germans today, as well, have an above average interest in developments of tushes! LOL!
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@TheHorse (220835)
• Walnut Creek, California
5 Jul 16
@DaddyEvil It sounds like Germans of his day in general were interested in tushies.
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@teamfreak16 (43418)
• Denver, Colorado
4 Jul 16
I've never heard about this before. How odd.
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@DaddyEvil (138051)
• United States
5 Jul 16
Even some of the verse to two of his canons were scatological in nature, Judy! It does seem that Germans may have had/some may still have uhm... interests beyond our own in scatological type subjects.... Mozart apparently was a man of his time...
I would hazard a guess that his references to his (and other people's) bottoms and excrement was the cause some psychiatrists possibly may have said he had mental difficulties in some areas... (I am putting that as politely as I am capable.)
Did you also notice that some of those letters sent by him, his mother and his sister were rhymed in the original German? LOL!
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@DaddyEvil (138051)
• United States
5 Jul 16
@JudyEv Yeah, I know... We will never know, though... Kinda pointless to speculate, I think?
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@JudyEv (342560)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Jul 16
What I also find interesting is that if the letters didn't exist, the psychiatrists would know nothing about it and not have an opinion on it. I wonder what other composers/artists/genii revealed in their letters that are now gone for ever?
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@JudyEv (342560)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Jul 16
@DaddyEvil True - but I'm good at pointless. :)
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@crazyhorseladycx (39509)
• United States
4 Jul 16
i'm thinkin' that like most folks, they'd ne'er dream'f their written words to go out into the public'n such a fashion. folks fascination with so much'f the famous folks lives seems most odd to me. seems the more personal, the more intrigued they become.
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@crazyhorseladycx (39509)
• United States
5 Jul 16
@JudyEv reckon they reserved 'emselves out'n public, but let their hair down'n print? lol i wonder if'n they'd be shocked'n mortified to know that folks continue to go through their things?
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@JudyEv (342560)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Jul 16
@crazyhorseladycx I think perhaps they might be.
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@JamesHxstatic (29413)
• Eugene, Oregon
4 Jul 16
I would hope that they would have done so. It certainly brings this genius down to a human level, in a disgusting sort of way.
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@TheHorse (220835)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 Jul 16
@JamesHxstatic I remember enjoying it.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Jul 16
@JudyEvans yes indeed we can as that music is pure genius love t o listen to it.
@Letranknight2015 (52165)
• Philippines
4 Jul 16
i wonder how much painting would that cost if it was sold, yup he's one of those greatest musicians ever.
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@JudyEv (342560)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Jul 16
I think that is a very early photo of Mozart. It seems there are very few that can be categorically stated as being of Mozart.
@JudyEv (342560)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Jul 16
He certainly wrote some amazing music all of which has stood the test of time.
@JudyEv (342560)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Jul 16
I don't put down much in writing that I might later regret!!
@Jeanniemaries (8237)
• United States
4 Jul 16
I watched a documentary on the Carter Family on Netflix and was thinking the exact same thing, they probably never imagined their possessions would be of interest to anyone.
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@epiffanie (11326)
• Australia
4 Jul 16
We'll never know what can make people famous after they're gone ..
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@Macarrosel (7498)
• Philippines
4 Jul 16
I have read his name but never knew what he was up to. How odd.
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@JudyEv (342560)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Jul 16
Maybe it was how people were in those times - or that society. It's hard to know.
@acelawrites (19272)
• Philippines
4 Jul 16
I don't know Mozart has that condition. Their letters could have so much value now if they were preserved.
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@JudyEv (342560)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Jul 16
There are also similar letters from others in his immediate family.