Is Evolution really all there is????
By bird123
@bird123 (10643)
United States
July 22, 2016 5:19pm CST
As we look around us we see there is a process of unfolding going on. People are created from a few cells to grow into a person. Animals go through this same process. Plants and trees unfold from tiny seeds into massive complex structures.
If you were God with limitless intelligence, how would you create it all? Choice 1. With a Poof, it's all here. Choice 2 With an automated, unfolding, expanding universe that grows into complex structures, systems, and life forms all coming from a single point.
Which choice is more intelligent? Poof leaves one wonder of the how and why while choice 2 has life forms in the expansion able to watch and study the processes.
Evolution fits well into choice 2 unfolding. Some say everything is evolution and that the universe is nothing but evolution. Is that really true?
I'm sure in the early days, survival of the fittest played an important role in the development of people and animals. This leads to the question: Is evolution really all there is? After all with mankind's humanity, the fittest are not the only ones surviving today. All those couch potatoes are making it too. There must be other factors involved.
What do you think?
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@Stitch95 (178)
• United Kingdom
25 Jul 16
For me personally, evolution is the answer. We have proof that it's taken place.
However, if I were to be shown proof that the original spark that STARTED everything was made by some all-powerful being, I would accept that. We still don't know exactly what it was that cause the universe to appear or cause life to appear; why shouldn't it be a god? For now I don't believe in one because again, no real proof, but I don't argue that he/she/they definitely don't exist.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
26 Jul 16
Sure evolution is a part of the system of unfolding going on, however there must be much more to the plan. Survival of the fittest is at the core of what evolution is about and not just the fittest are surviving today.
Evidence of a Greater Intelligence exists in everyting around us. There was a statistcal scientist who figured out the the universe was not old enough to be able to be formed out of random chance. He did say that it was possible for everything to form if the universe was running like a giant computer program. Things like fractals and evolution point to this. Deductive reasoning should lead one to the question: Who wrote the program and how to get it running?
I find few people actually want to find God which is OK. It makes no difference. On the other hand, sometimes people who really search find what they search for.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
27 Jul 16
@Stitch95 You do have a point. Maybe mankind has just slowed the process since fewer unfit people die early. Mankind has overcome most of the selection pressures as of late. Perhaps new and different ones will arrive in the future to challenge us all.
Since believing is not important to God, an appearance for proof would serve no purpose. In fact, it would do harm in that such an appearance would intimidate the choices of people. That would defeat the purpose of this world. On the other hand, students hungry to discover the real truth might have a much different outcome.
@Stitch95 (178)
• United Kingdom
26 Jul 16
@bird123 But the fittest are surviving. Think about it; we, as a species, have made ourselves almost invulnerable to the selection pressures that cause the deaths of other creatures. We've built shelters that provide warmth and protect us from the elements, we mass-produce our food, we've developed medicines for most of the things that would harm us. But even so, the 'weakest' in our society (the old, the sick, the poor) still die, especially if they don't have access to the things that the 'strongest' have. It's all a matter of perspective.
As to the things about there seemingly being some design, I do agree that these evidences are things that could believably point to some creator, but I don't see them as definitive proof. If the clouds were to part and some being appeared and said "by the way guys, I made all of you," then I'd accept that as proof, but honestly anything short of that just doesn't constitute for me.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
24 Jul 16
@NJChicaa What about global warming? Seems lots of people are killing in the name of religion. Could religion be a selection pressure?
What about science? Genetic engineering will take the natural out of selection possibly removing the adaptation part of the equation. Of course that is for furtue generations. That will probably be slow to come.
@msiduri (5687)
• United States
23 Jul 16
I think it's a very complex thing. I think an individual—and a species—not only survives by competition but also by cooperation. People tend to be as nice as they can afford to be, with some variation. An affluent society does—in general—not practice infanticide, for example. But if you only have so many resources, you have to be careful how you invest them.
