Complaints about the new British £5 notes

British £5 note
@Asylum (47893)
Manchester, England
December 11, 2016 2:36pm CST
It has come to my attention that some vegans have raised a complaint about the new British £5 note that is gradually being introduced into circulation. The objection appears to be that there are minute traces of animal fat in the material. I have known people to complain over the most unimportant issues, but this is really taking things to the extreme. Surely there are other matters to worry about rather than tiny traces of animal fat in a banknote, which could only be noticed by a forensic scientist? It seems that the Bank of England is in the process of wasting time and money investigating these complaints. Personally I would simply tell the complainers not to eat them.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
11 Dec 16
Do you think that it was through eating them that they discovered the problem?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
Someone must have examined the notes in a laboratory to discover this, which infers desperately searching for something to complain about.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
11 Dec 16
@Asylum What a waste of time and money to discover if it is true and then, presumably, resolve the problem. It also implies that there is not the same problem with the other notes
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
11 Dec 16
@Asylum No! Not here, surely?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
11 Dec 16
Some people seem to spend a lot of time looking for things to criticize. I don't think they are very happy people.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
It must rate as one of the most absurd that I have ever encountered.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
11 Dec 16
Ah, now that could be it alright!
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@GardenGerty (160909)
• United States
12 Dec 16
if we focus on minutiae we miss the big pictures. If they seriously have objections to the note then they can use one pound notes and carry five times as many around with them.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
It would have to be £1 coins, but I do agree.
@allknowing (137597)
• India
12 Dec 16
This is like complaining about not having shoes when many others have no feet. India is going through that. There has been demonetization of the thousand and five hundred rupee notes that has created havoc everywhere. The new notes are in the 2000 rupee currency which is not useful when exchanging for small purchases. The labour class is suffering immensely. I could write volumes on this specially when atms have no cash and there is a lot of black money laundering, et al. .
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
@allknowing No, but I used to be a banknote collector so I am aware of the system quite well.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
This kind of situation has occurred in many countries throughout history and will no doubt happen again.
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@allknowing (137597)
• India
12 Dec 16
@Asylum Have you experienced this?
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
11 Dec 16
" Much ado about nothing" they should concern themselves more with the future of the currency since trends shows that the pound continues to weaken.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
11 Dec 16
Well - our comments nearly match in the content and time of writing!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
It most certainly does not justify allocating time and money to investigate.
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@marlina (154131)
• Canada
13 Dec 16
What else is new? It appears now that the government is catering to the smallest group who complain about the smallest things. They call it "political correctness" and I, for one, am so SICK OF IT.
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@rebelann (112962)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Dec 16
And I thought vegans were the minority. I'm an omnivore so that wouldn't have bothered me.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
The main point is that without this complaint being raised we would never even have known.
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@rebelann (112962)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Dec 16
Exactly @Asylum but there are always extremists.
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@shaggin (72190)
• United States
11 Dec 16
I think its more they are upset animals are being killed to use these fats in the bills. I read about this on dailybreak I think it was. I wasn't sure how I felt on the topic so I did not comment at all.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
It is obviously more a case of the content being incidental. They are hardly likely to kill animals to procure minute amounts of fat to add to a banknote.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
@pgntwo You can add minute traces of fat to any money by just handling it.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
11 Dec 16
@Asylum Unless a rat falls into the mixing vat...
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@sishy7 (27167)
• Australia
12 Dec 16
People find the strangest things to complain about... Personally I think the notes is pretty... I like the blue/green color...
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
Without it being plastered all over the news very few people would ever be aware of it, yet they happily complain.
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@LadyDuck (472004)
• Switzerland
12 Dec 16
I fully agree with you Barry, this is not something that people eat and if they do not want to touch them, they can use their credit (or debit) cards.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
Banknotes are constantly handled, so most must have traces of animal food on them before long.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
@LadyDuck I assume that the animal fats referred to are in a new banknote, but the fact remains that even if they leave the Bank of England without they will soon acquire some.
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@LadyDuck (472004)
• Switzerland
12 Dec 16
@Asylum This is surely the case. I cannot understand why the Bank of England is wasting time and money listening to those stupid complains.
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
12 Dec 16
I agree with your personal and simple solution - Dont eat the Money
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
11 Dec 16
Nothing to do with the EU, that one - as far as I can tell. We did it all on our own: much ado about nothing!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
Now that gives me an idea. I have numerous Euro banknotes so I could have one analysed to check the contents and make a complaint to Angela Merkel.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
12 Dec 16
@Asylum The paper of Euros is made with pure cotton, it is 100% vegan.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
11 Dec 16
@Asylum None of the Euro notes is plastic though... you never know what you might find! I wonder what else has tallow in... Candles? Shoe polish?
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@JudyEv (341820)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Dec 16
I'd be doing the same. By the way, I'm sure it is the exact same photo of the Queen that we have on our notes.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
It most likely will be. We tend to have 3 different effigies of the Qieen, a forward facing one for banknotes, one facing left on postage stamps and one facing right on coins.
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@Mike197602 (15512)
• United Kingdom
11 Dec 16
In some ways I agree with you in others I don't. Occasionally people complain too much. In this instance I think they are right. People are vegan for varying reasons and for the bank of england to add animal products to a note is an oversight on their part in my opinion. With your comment I think you show you don't understand veganism...that's ok neither did I. But since my sister became a vegan some years ago I did a lot of research...now I think the Bof E needs to get this tallow removed asap.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
I am prepared to bet that the Bank of England was previously unaware of it because it is clearly a constituent of another item used in the production. There would be no purpose in intentionally adding minute traces otherwise.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
@Mike197602 Many banknotes will also have traces due to being handled, which cannot be rectified.
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@Mike197602 (15512)
• United Kingdom
11 Dec 16
@Asylum no doubt the bank were unaware...they've stated that. My issue is that they should have been aware. Britain is a multicultural society and it is not just vegans that don't like this...if it was a pork product there would be absolute uproar in my opinion. My dislike of this issue isn't as simple as it may seem...it's about a way bigger picture.
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@JohnRoberts (109846)
• Los Angeles, California
11 Dec 16
I have a huge complaint about the new bills: I don't have any! I want 100s of them! There are complaints about the minute trace of animal fat but no concern at all that money is one of the filthiest germ ridden objects handled on a daily basis?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
Yes it is because it is constantly changing hands and nobody refuses a dirty banknote.
@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
11 Dec 16
That and library books.
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@JohnRoberts (109846)
• Los Angeles, California
11 Dec 16
@pgntwo I always wash my hands once I put down a library book.
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@celticeagle (168171)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Dec 16
I think there must be people who spend all of their time finding these type of things. Should non-vegans have a problem with the notes if they don't have the fat in them? I mean come on.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
Since we are talking about minute traces it should be academic to anyone since it cannot be noticed outside of a laboratory.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
@celticeagle Which is why I suspect that some people are eager to find something to complain about.
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@celticeagle (168171)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Dec 16
@Asylum .....Well, someone is noticing it.
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• Pamplona, Spain
12 Dec 16
I would not let that worry me in the slightest as there are more things to worry about than just that.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
I could not care less about the constituents as long as they are not poisonous to the touch.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
@lovinangelsinstead21 I have been given some quite grubby looking banknotes at times, but have never thrown one away.
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• Pamplona, Spain
12 Dec 16
@Asylum Nor me really. I don´t let it bother me really unless they are toxic like you suggest.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
12 Dec 16
If it is true it is a composite plastic. It is not difficult to fix by replacing animal fat by plant oil, I do not think that it would increase of 1/10th penny the price of a banknote, but maybe some other people will complain about palm oil. I am not sure that it should be done : as you write, people complaining should be told to stop to eat them. Maybe you should write "Do not eat" on them?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
Even the simple solution that you suggest would necessitate withdrawing, destroying and replacing every £5 in circulation or banks etcetera,which would be a mammoth undertaking.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
@topffer A number will be retained by collectors and those who have overlooked a few, but British banknotes never expire. On the introduction of a new banknote we are usually given around 6 months to tender them. After that date they cease to be Legal Tender, so cannot be spent in a shop. Nevertheless they remain valid and can be exchanged or paid into the bank anytime.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
12 Dec 16
@Asylum But many banknotes are never turned back to be exchanged, and withdrawing a banknote to replace it is often a positive operation for the finances of a state.
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@simone10 (54187)
• Louisville, Kentucky
12 Dec 16
That is a bit odd to complain about, isn't it? I like your response about telling them not to eat the notes...lol.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
It is so pedantic that I have to assume that it is just an excuse to complain about something.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
19 Dec 16
@simone10 These days I do not even try.
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@simone10 (54187)
• Louisville, Kentucky
19 Dec 16
@Asylum Well, you know what they say, you can't please everyone.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
12 Dec 16
Oh brother! Now I think I've just about heard everything @Asylum . The fact that 'money' contains more viruses and bacteria apparently doesn't enter the minds of these people. And they're worried about animal fat? Seriously?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
Exactly my opinion. Money is rapidly contaminated by a myriad of things and even if they left the Bank of England clear of animal fat, they would soon acquire animal foodstuffs due to being handled.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
@nanette64 Or have a Quarantine Pocket for them until you get home and put them in the washing machine.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
12 Dec 16
@Asylum It almost makes ya feel like wearing a mask and gloves all the time, don't it?
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• Bournemouth, England
11 Dec 16
Maybe some people do eat them - remember when hippies used to call money 'bread?'
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
11 Dec 16
A head is often referred to as a loaf,but I rarely eat them.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Dec 16
@asfarasiknow I prefer mature cheese, so would prefer an old white £5 note for lunch.
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• Bournemouth, England
12 Dec 16
@Asylum I've had the odd cheese slice which had about the same consistency and flavour as I imagine the fiver would.
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