Pumpkin's Rant of the Day: A Thank You Would Have Been Nice

United Kingdom
December 26, 2016 1:58pm CST
Merry Christmas and all that. It's just been me, the other half (D) and the smallest fledgeling (Mini) for Christmas. Midi went to his Dad's Christmas Eve afternoon, and he'll be coming home on Wednesday. The three of us have had a nice few days together, although D has been a bit poorly. I think he's had some sort of fever/flu type thingy. Yesterday, he did his best to join in with festivities but we've had a couple of early nights! He's feeling a bit better today, and I'm hoping he's OK to come to my Mum's with us on Friday. We were supposed to be going to his parents' today but we didn't. He said that Mini and I could go without him, but I'm not really comfortable enough to do that yet. I'm alright with them, but there would have been people I hadn't met. Hopefully, we'll pop round for New Year. Apart from his illness, we've had a good Christmas. Nice dinner and very spoilt with presents. I am, however, a little upset and disappointed by one thing, though. D's youngest daughter sent us a Christmas card (no, I'm not upset by that, although she put it to Dad, Pumpkin and Family, which is alright, I suppose, but it just reinforces the separateness of us, and the fact that she sees us as Dad's family rather than being a part of the same, if you see what I mean). Anyway, that's a different point. So, yes, she sent the card, which was nice. His eldest didn't send a card or anything. I don't think she usually does, and she's not long had a baby so she's been quite busy with new baby and a toddler. What has upset me is that we sent gifts to them and didn't get a thank you from them. These are supposedly adults. Adults shouldn't need prompting to say thank you. The youngest lives with her mother, and always has done (which is not a good thing). We're just trying to establish and improve a relationship with the eldest, also because we'd actually like a relationship with the grandchildren who, at the moment, don't seem to know that we exist. As hard as we try with the eldest, we don't know where we actually stand, how she feels, or what she's been told about whatever has gone on in the past. I've just recently managed to convince D to believe that he deserves a relationship with her, and that he deserves to be a grandad to his granddaughters. But I'm not convinced that his daughters deserve him. We've asked the youngest's mum a couple of times to get her to call her Dad, but we don't believe the message has been passed on. D makes excuses for her but the truth is that the girls are rude because they've been brought up to be so. So no idea if she's just not bothered, or if her mum hasn't passed on any messages. I don't think that a simple message or call or text to say thank you for Christmas presents is too much to ask or expect. If we were likely to see them, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt that they might just thank us in person. But they live 200 miles away. The eldest has either come up with excuses or simply ignored us when we've talked about visiting (even though she's said she'd like to see us, but I wouldn't expect the truth from someone who's been brought up by a manipulative liar). Their mother seems to be stopping any communication with the youngest, and I can't even explain how I know that. I contacted the mother (because the youngest never goes on Facebook and I have no other contact information) to ask if the youngest would like to spend Christmas and/or New Year with us. She said that youngest would be working. That turned out to be a lie. D had convinced himself that the mother was a good mum and a good person. But I don't understand why a good person would be so spiteful. We haven't seen either of the girls for well over a year now. That is, partly, D's fault, though. I thought he was going to arrange something for his granddaughter's first birthday but he never did. That's a part of another long story, which I won't go into here. Anyway, how would you feel about this? I mean not getting a thank you. I'd be ashamed if I had adult kids who didn't have the decency to thank people for something. Perhaps they didn't like what they had. Perhaps they didn't appreciated it. Or perhaps, it's just their way of pushing us away even further and letting us know we're wasting our time making any effort with them.
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@JudyEv (342112)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Dec 16
I think it is rude not to say thank you in some way but young(er) people these days don't seem to think they need to or that it might be nice or whatever.
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• United Kingdom
27 Dec 16
The girls are 22 and 19. The younger one is very immature (because her mum has always babied her). But I believe it has less to do with age, and more to do with how they're raised.
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• United Kingdom
27 Dec 16
@JudyEv No, they're not. The girls' mum is a truly bad person. My other half has convinced himself that she has been a good mum, despite the huge pile of evidence to the contrary. Like forcing him out of their lives for so long and making him believe they were better off without him, and them and others believe it was his choice. If he'd had more influence, they might have turned out to be better people.
@JudyEv (342112)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Dec 16
@pumpkinjam I'm sure you are right. Some parents aren't very good at their job, are they?
@epiffanie (11326)
• Australia
28 Dec 16
I agree with you .. A short call to let you know that they received your present and to thank you for it would have been great.. But some people are that way... we just need to accept it so we don't get hurt..
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• United Kingdom
28 Dec 16
I think it would still be hurtful, even if I could accept that they just are that way. It's difficult because they are adults, and I would be absolutely ashamed of my children if they were so rude. The eldest daughter sent a message which included a thank you when I initiated and asked her if the gifts had arrived before Christmas. I sent other things later, and haven't heard from her since. I was hoping I wouldn't have to prompt an adult to show basic courtesy. Some people are that way, yes, they are rude and ungrateful. It's hurtful whether we accept it or not.
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@epiffanie (11326)
• Australia
29 Dec 16
@pumpkinjam Yes i understand you .. it is really is hurtful when people don't acknowledged what's being done for them..
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Dec 16
Some peopie were never taught good manners so theyhave nowthe manners of a Billy goat g===
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• United Kingdom
26 Dec 16
Very true. Unfortunately, this is just one small part of what a bad mother the girls have and how poorly they've been raised, which other people don't seem to want/be able to see.
@TheHorse (220266)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Dec 16
Sometimes a simple "thank you" carries a lot of weight.
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• United Kingdom
26 Dec 16
That is true. When we took the younger daughter out for the day, I noticed that she didn't say please or thank you. She was 18 at the time. The eldest says thank you with prompting/if I contact her first but won't take the initiative and just send a thank you. My boys are younger (16 and 11) and are always polite. The younger one needs to be reminded to say thank you on occasion, or told to call someone to say thank you or whatever but he's 11 and he's autistic. The girls have no excuse, they're just rude, although I had hoped my instinct was wrong.
@just4him (317241)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
26 Dec 16
That's so sad. I hope that somehow family relations get better between you. I agree, thank you's should be said for gifts received. As for the card, I often address a card that way and has nothing to do with separating the family but including everyone in it.
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• United Kingdom
26 Dec 16
We are trying with them, but it's difficult when it all seems one way. The card thing, I wasn't sure about. I always sign everything with the four of our names on it. It was nice that his daughter had included my name, but as the boys are her step-brothers, I kind of felt that she hadn't acknowledged them and just sees us as 'Dad's new family'. I'd rather she actually put their names on but maybe it is normal for children to put 'and family' instead of the names of their step-family.
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@just4him (317241)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
26 Dec 16
@pumpkinjam I've done it both ways. Though mostly 'and family'.
• Norway
11 Jan 17
That's rude
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@allknowing (137781)
• India
27 Dec 16
Is there ever a day when you have not found complaints - even as a grand a festive day as Christmas?
• United Kingdom
27 Dec 16
Yes lots. I'm usually happy. That's why I put my rants as rants like this on here. So it's all in one place, on one discussion, and I'm not complaining all over the place. I hadn't ranted for a while on here! Christmas has, mostly, been good, but I think anyone would be right to be upset that they hadn't had a thank you fro their adult children, or that they'd been lied to about why they couldn't visit.
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@allknowing (137781)
• India
27 Dec 16
@pumpkinjam Cool it. That is the trend these days and it is time you accepted it. Today's generation thinks differently and it will take us oldies a bit of time to digest it. You know what? I actually enjoy your rants in general
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• United Kingdom
27 Dec 16
@allknowing Glad you enjoy them! I am only 36 :P Just because it's a trend for people to be rude, doesn't make it acceptable. I think I mentioned in another response that my boys, who are younger than his girls, are polite. That's because I've brought them up to be so. I'm also younger than the girls' mum by a few years (so similar age as generation) who's clearly raised two rude, thoughtless people. So I politely disagree with your age/generation theory :)
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• United Kingdom
11 Jan 17
That is so rude! A simple thank you costs absolutely nothing!
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