Bet You the Kneeling Footballers Never Knew This
By Gus Kilthau
@Ceerios (4698)
Goodfellow, Texas
September 25, 2017 10:22am CST
Bet You the Kneeling Footballers Never Knew This -
I earlier posted about the music used for the USA's national anthem. Francis Scott Key, was the author of the anthem's words about the defense of Fort McHenry during the War of 1812. He did not supply the music used in the singing .
The anthem's musical score came from one of the drinking songs used by the British drinking club, The Anacreontic Society, "To Anacreon in Heaven."
You can listen to its music at the following link.
It is almost funny to consider that all of the current-day fuss and bother about disrespect for the flag and for the USA national anthem is centered around a piece of music (with different words inserted) that originated with the drunks and others, members of the Drinking Club - the Anacreontic Society.
Now you know.
Image: Have an Anthem - Pixabay.com
tags: Star Spangled Banner, Kneeling Nonsense, Sports Teams, Anacreontic Society Drinking Club, Great Britain
UPDATE 10/29/2016: 100K views! I appreciate the support, but this should have been the United State's national anthem. Lyrics: To Anacreon in Heaven, where h...
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25 responses
@topffer (42156)
• France
25 Sep 17
It is interesting and I am learning something new with your post
Our Marseillaise was a military song at start in 1792, but the music has changed several times. The actual one is from the 1930's. We had a slower and quite different version in the 1970's imposed by one of our Presidents, and we reverted back to the previous version under another President
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Our Marseillaise was a military song at start in 1792, but the music has changed several times. The actual one is from the 1930's. We had a slower and quite different version in the 1970's imposed by one of our Presidents, and we reverted back to the previous version under another President.8 people like this
@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
25 Sep 17
@topffer - Hi "Digger" - Music is not my thing, but like everything else, music is of interest. Making fun of stuff is where I live - and so, I suppose that my favorite "anthem" would be (verbatim) the song, Yankee Doodle" used for a time in derision of the American colonists. -Gus-
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@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
25 Sep 17
@topffer - Hello again, "Digger" - I get a laugh out of the mistake many make over the ...and call it mMacaroni... words from the Yankee Doodle song. Some actually believe that the "Macaroni" is in reference to the kind of macaroni served on a plate with meat sauce. -Gus-
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@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
25 Sep 17
@andriaperry Ms Andria - and a 
to you, too. -Gus-
to you, too. -Gus-1 person likes this
@cmoneyspinner (9219)
• Austin, Texas
25 Sep 17
Actually lots of people take music from songs and revise the lyrics. There's lots of music with language I don't like but the music is terrific. I can easily take the music and insert my own song lyrics. My husband does that a lot! We don't resell the music though. It's for personal use. I'm OK with the words and the music of our national anthem. So the drunks knew good music when they heard it! The tune is memorable.
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@cmoneyspinner (9219)
• Austin, Texas
25 Sep 17
@Ceerios - OK. Either way it happened, I'm happy with the way the national anthem turned out.
(???) Where did I say the word "lazy"? 
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@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
25 Sep 17
@cmoneyspinner - You did not use the word, Lazy. I did. ( " That is not being lazy . " ) The tune (musical score) was a real oldie by 1931, the year the USA national anthem was adopted. From what I have learned, those tasked to sing the anthem as solos consider the melody to be difficult to follow. -Gus-
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@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
25 Sep 17
@cmoneyspinner - That is not being lazy, but shows good thinking. Not everyone is a musician. As to the anacreonistas, if they actually heard the music, they would not have been too drunk. My thought is that someone other than the drinking club members did the switch some years later. -Gus-
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@IreneVincent (15962)
• United States
25 Sep 17
I shared (suggested) your post with some of my mylot friends.
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@buenavida (9984)
• Sweden
25 Sep 17
So, this is a drinking song? I have heard it in TV I think?? Interesting.. 
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@buenavida (9984)
• Sweden
25 Sep 17
@Ceerios I can imagine immigrants from Sweden might say something like that.. and Thank you, my name Marja is Finnish, as I was born in Finland, but have lived in Sweden most of my life.. buenavida is my business name.. comes from the time when I studied Spanish..
I can imagine immigrants from Sweden might say something like that.. and Thank you, my name Marja is Finnish, as I was born in Finland, but have lived in Sweden most of my life.. buenavida is my business name.. comes from the time when I studied Spanish.. @Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
25 Sep 17
@buenavida - Ms Marja - First thing to be said in this comment is that you have a very fine username.
Minnesota is a state here heavily populated earlier by immigrants from Sweden.
Next thing is to see if I can get a "saying" to you regarding something rather "Swedish" it is a saying from the USA state of Minnesota. It is what a Minnesotan might say when he or she is shown to be in error about something - defeated, so to speak...
"I tenck I gohhh beck tooo Miennehsotaahhh."
-Gus-
-Gus-1 person likes this
@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
26 Sep 17
Drinking songs provided a large collection of musical scores for other things to piggy back onto. John Wesley set a lot of hymns to drinking songs. I do not think the kneeling footballers really care where the song comes from or its history.
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@allen0187 (58582)
• Philippines
26 Sep 17
This is interesting. Thanks for sharing it!
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
25 Sep 17
I see nothing wrong with the football players kneeling down like that. It is not really because of the national anthem. It is because of the corrupt disgusting government we have here. How can anyone have respect for a government who don't really care about it's people.
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
25 Sep 17
@Ceerios No, it is the government and the military industrial complex that is corrupt. They are working hand in hand to make all the money and leaving us to die. That's why they want to screw up healthcare in this country and social security. They don't want us to have anything.
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@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
25 Sep 17
@inertia4 - One needs to consider the cause of a "corrupt disgusting government." Don't you think that having such a government might be because the electorate has their attention on frivolous things more so than on serious affairs such as paying attention to their own government? -Gus-
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
26 Sep 17
Was it true that in England the American team squatted for the US national anthem but stood for the British one @Ceerios ?
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
6 Jan 18
Hi Gus, I perusing some of your posts and realized you haven't been here since Sept. I do hope all is well.
As to your post here, yes many of our most beloved songs started out as tavern dittys and such. lol
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@sumofalltears (3988)
• United States
26 Sep 17
Well that is interesting, it seems that our patriotism is still vested by the British.
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@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
26 Sep 17
@sumofalltears - Glad I am that you found the discussion to be of interest. Patriotism does not seem to have much to do with the musical score of the US' national anthem however. -Gus-
