Well, so much for raises............

My sweet Ally, I took this shot about a year or so ago.
@rebelann (112875)
El Paso, Texas
February 2, 2018 11:26am CST
Last December I received a letter from SS telling me I got a raise of $19 dollars a month. I was jumpin for joy for about 1 minute then it hit me, the only reason SS gives raises of that magnitude is if prices will be going up and sure enough that's exactly what has happened. While shopping at sam's the other day I picked up the baking soda I use to clean with, it's a 13.5 pound bag that I had been paying about $3.98 for but this time it cost over $6 WTH??? It seems that $19 raise isn't going to help much if everything else is going up in price. I'm betting minimum wages went up as well. Does anyone know what triggers the rise of minimum wages when all it does is drive prices up?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Feb 18
This has been the situation for centuries and is unlikely to change. Prices rise so people want higher wages, but the wage increase generates increased prices.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Feb 18
@rebelann Wages also rise faster than pensions, making a rise constitute a pay cut for pensioners.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
Here the SS rises only if the cost of living in the area you live in will be rising @Asylum I still won't be able to afford cable but that's ok as long as Netflix doesn't raise their prices too much.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
Exactly. It's hard to climb out of the minimum wage pool, perhaps people were better off with the barter system.
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@LadyDuck (471498)
• Switzerland
2 Feb 18
It is to show that they are doing something to help the workers to live better. People have not yet understood that every time the wages go up, the prices go up a lot more. People are silly.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
Yes, some people really are silly. Some, on the other hand, make the most out of a bad situation.
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@LadyDuck (471498)
• Switzerland
3 Feb 18
@rebelann You are right, the usual ones profit of those situations.
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• Pamplona, Spain
2 Feb 18
Its a pity that they cannot give you a rise in pay and without the prices having to go up. Here they are going up but we do not have any wage rises or anything like it. Spain is still in crisis according to the top drawer politicians so we have had it for the time being. So no rise but the stuff in the shops has gone up and everything has gone up too. Still very thankful that I can make it through the month anyway. But I don´t feel like voting for them at least only for one.
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• Pamplona, Spain
2 Feb 18
@rebelann We can afford to eat but not to buy say things like meat all the time and its a luxury for a lot of people now. Spain is slowly coming out of its money problems but very slowly or so they say.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
That is really hard. If they had not given me a raise I would not have been able to afford basic food needs. At least I can still afford to eat.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
I have to juggle those things I want with those I need and for me food is always on the top of the list so the rest just has to wait @lovinangelsinstead21
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@sallypup (61184)
• Centralia, Washington
2 Feb 18
You just can't win. You only social security? No side pension? That's a hard life for sure.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
Yep, just SS. I'm not complaining, I simply don't travel very often that way I won't be tempted to spend lots of money. Funny thing is that online I always compare prices tween Amazon, Walmart, Target and Kmart before I buy pantry refills.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
9 Feb 18
I've never heard of it before @sallypup I'll have to check it out.
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@sallypup (61184)
• Centralia, Washington
9 Feb 18
@rebelann Do you use that Box company?
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
3 Feb 18
Minimum wage increases always drives prices up and causes businesses to cut jobs, even though it's meant to help the economy. It doesn't work out the way it's intended to.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
Exactly. I remember my nephew telling his dad that when he graduated he would not take less than $10 an hour, the minimum wage back then was $5 an hour, so I told him that in order to expect that much he'd have to prove he had the skills and he just looked at me as if I were nuts, his dad simply told me that at least his son had set a goal. Huh??
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
8 Feb 18
True @DianneN but only if they choose a lucrative major and happen to be at the top of their class, I've worked with 2 people who had masters degrees and 1 with some kind of medical degree but they were doing what I did because the positions for their desired professions were filled up and they couldn't get other work.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
8 Feb 18
@rebelann Graduation from high school, college, or graduate school? There is a huge difference in salaries among them all. lol
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@kobesbuddy (78882)
• East Tawas, Michigan
3 Feb 18
It's a vicious circle, to keep people poor and struggling all the time! Then, they complain about the crime rate going up, it's quite often a part of the financial mess our government creates:(
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
It's a mess alright. Sometimes people get over excited about the impending raise and over spend before it is implemented then when that chit hits the fan they panic.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
It sure is @kobesbuddy I still have trouble believing anyone would consider cable as important, to me it's more important to eat and pay the utilities etc.
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@kobesbuddy (78882)
• East Tawas, Michigan
3 Feb 18
@rebelann Over spending is a sickness, in our crazy society:(
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@snowy22315 (180934)
• United States
3 Feb 18
It seems like what people fail to understand if minimum wage goes up to 15.00 dollars per hour, the cost of everything will go up accordingly. It won't make a difference in a few years. It's sad.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
You hit that one on the top of the nail. Every year it's the same thing, people making minimum wages scream and holler for a raise in minimum wages so they get that then when they still can't pay the bills or afford cable they scream and holler again. If they were smart they'd turn it around and scream n holler at the prices they're paying for rent etc. The other thing that gets me is how many people buy houses they can't afford in the long run. It's not easy to try to buy things that are not necessary but maybe people should stop trying to so much.
@much2say (55683)
• Los Angeles, California
2 Feb 18
I suppose people look at their immediate needs, but don't really see the whole picture. More money in their pockets sounds great, but that money has to come from somewhere - something has to "give" and that's what they may not necessarily see - not right away anyway.
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@much2say (55683)
• Los Angeles, California
5 Feb 18
@rebelann Wow, back then? Here it's like $3.19 !
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
I noticed that a month or so ago. Amazon prime has gone up but thankfully neither Hulu nor Netflix have, yet. What worries me is food, utilities and gas prices, those too will be going up if they haven't already.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
4 Feb 18
That happened some years ago too @much2say I don't remember where but here the prices went up to $3.09 for quite a while ..... maybe back in 2008??
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@allknowing (136642)
• India
2 Feb 18
I remember there used to be what was called Dearness Allowance which fluctuated depending on the price index.
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@allknowing (136642)
• India
3 Feb 18
@rebelann Even private firms followed it.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
What they usually do here is give cost of living raises which has nothing to do with typical work performance raises and is most often done in both government and private companies @allknowing
@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
I have never heard of that before. Was it government run?
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@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
3 Feb 18
When prices increase here, basic wage earners don't usually get an increase in salary.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
That is horrible, how do they survive on the same wages when everything they need has become more expensive?
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@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
4 Feb 18
@rebelann Exactly. That's why in this country the poor becomes even poorer.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
4 Feb 18
That's so sad @toniganzon
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@sjvg1976 (41281)
• Delhi, India
3 Feb 18
It hardly matters if the minimum wage increases as with the increase normally price of essential items also increase.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
I do not understand what you mean.
@FourWalls (68150)
• United States
2 Feb 18
“They” say prices increase when the economy is growing, but I’ve never seen prices go DOWN in bad economic times.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
Exactly. I'd love to cyber kick those bozos who are stupid enough to make those claims. Cheeeeze.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
It's probably more now @FourWalls I haven't calculated that because I don't go to doctors. What I don't get is how so many people earning minimum wages can honestly believe that if the minimum wages go up they can suddenly afford cable, rent or whatnot, it's already been proven that all of it rises along with the minimum wage.
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@FourWalls (68150)
• United States
2 Feb 18
@rebelann — my mother of blessed memory used to say her Medicare cost usually went up half of the social security raise, so what was the point.
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@Morleyhunt (21744)
• Canada
2 Feb 18
Minimum wage went up here....I argued that prices will rise...but some people don't see the correlation....
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
I know what you mean. I once had a debate on the web about that subject but the young lady insisted that if the minimum wages would go up then she could afford cable. I'm betting she still can't afford it.
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@Morleyhunt (21744)
• Canada
2 Feb 18
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@bwjsdems (496)
• New Zealand
9 Feb 18
@rebelann Funnily enough over here in NZ, it is some of us making a good income, who choose not to buy the local equivalent of 'cable' as it is extremely expensive. Yet a lot of people on unemployment benefit somehow manage to get it. Some people's priorities make me wonder.
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• United States
6 Feb 18
Interesting. I think you're right. Since Christmas I've noticed a considerable increase in prices at my local Stop & Shop.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
9 Feb 18
It's not a good omen, with our raises comes the rise of all things we need as well as those we want.
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• United States
3 Feb 18
i have never seen a 13 pound bag of baking soda.. it's even worse here..the state only gives minimum wage increases in steps.. so by the time you get the full raise,it's really pointless..but you can betcha the cost of living goes up full all at once..
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
That has to be a real bummer. I didn't know they were allowed to do it that way. In El Paso TX those making minimum wages are expected to get paid the rise as soon as it is implemented and naturally the prices start going up shortly before the raises do. As for that bag of baking soda, I buy it at Sams or Costco.
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@mydanods (6513)
• Nigeria
3 Feb 18
Over here in Nigeria the minimum wage issue has been politicized and currently on negotiations. The government says there's no money; it'll make them acquire more debts. The unions counteract that - people are suffering and prices are already going up regularly because of inflation. It's a battle. The politicians against the people. I wish we had a social security system. Or that there was no inflation.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
Life is by no means easy for those of us born into families with no wealth.
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• Philippines
3 Feb 18
At least they were prepared and got yourself a raise. But I guess it never beats coming from a third world like where I live because prices remains cheap despite of the rises of commodities or items down here.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
I thought the prices there were going up?
• United States
2 Feb 18
Cost of living just continues to rise and I struggle every time I go to the store.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
I have it down to a science, as long as I don't try to get any of the wants then I can afford to eat fairly well and of course staying home most of the time has helped keep the gas expense down and I also try not to put the thermostat too high, that really eats up the money.
@HazySue (39268)
• Gouverneur, New York
2 Feb 18
I thought that same thing. I wasn't surprised when I found out Medicare went up at the same time.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
2 Feb 18
Yeah, that's not good either.
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@redurnet (1798)
• United Kingdom
3 Feb 18
It seems like that is the way it always goes.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Feb 18
Yes, I think you are correct.