In what countries is parenting the most "strict"?

@TheHorse (220245)
Walnut Creek, California
August 27, 2018 12:53pm CST
In the United States, parenting overall seems quite "Liberal" to me. Children are encouraged to "express themselves," and are sometimes not held accountable for their actions. It can work in families where parents model good values and a good work ethic. But in some families, it can lead to spoiled children. On the other hand, I've noticed that Eastern European parenting seems quite strict. The preschool teachers we've had who come from Eastern Europe are very directive and have a hard time with our "child-centered" philosophy. My young neighbor friend's mother is from Croatia, and is extremely demanding of her son. If he's home three minutes late from visiting me, he's not allowed to see me the next day. I understand that there is considerable variation within any given country, and that not all parents within a given country, state, or region of the world discipline or encourage their children in the same way. But do you think there are places where parenting is more or less strict than in others?
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@topffer (42156)
• France
27 Aug 18
France is the last country in Europe where parents can spank their children. We have been sentenced by Europe for that, but until now not a law could have been voted to suppress corporal punishment, because a majority of families wants to keep this possibility even if they do not use it.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
I hadn't realized it was "illegal" in other European countries. Does that include Turkey? Here in the US, I think it's still legal, but it's not considered "best practice." I am never tempted to swat kids.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
27 Aug 18
@TheHorse I was speaking of EU countries, and Turkey is not part of the EU. In any Arabic country that I have visited (Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt and Turkey), children are kings, and their parents are not strict at all with them.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
@topffer Interesting. I would have thought that parenting would be tough in Arabic countries.
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@JudyEv (342110)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Aug 18
Certainly it seems some places are stricter than others. Corporal punishment is not allowed here.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Aug 18
Teachers here in the US live in fear of being accused of being too harsh.
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@JudyEv (342110)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Aug 18
@TheHorse In the government schools the children cannot be expelled. The really off-the-rail kids know this, know they can't be touched physically and virtually do what they want. It's not a good scenario.
@snowy22315 (182175)
• United States
28 Aug 18
I think Indonesian parents are not nearly as indulgent as we are in the US. Sometimes children as young as 3 are expected to entertain themselves for hours without as much as a toy..doesn't happen here at least in" normal"l families.
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@snowy22315 (182175)
• United States
28 Aug 18
@TheHorse thats what I mean
@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Aug 18
3-year-olds can amuse themselves with very little. But I'd at least provide them with some staky blocks or Legos or boxes or something.
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• Calgary, Alberta
27 Aug 18
Asia,Middle east and latin America. Being Mixed Hispanic Asian, I got the worst of both worlds. LOL A typical tiger mom and a typical strict Christian Latino dad.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
Heh. When I work with poorer Latino families here in the US, I often notice a strong emphasis on family, which I like. But some of the dads wind up cheating on their partners. Feh. My middle-class Latino friends are pretty much "Americanized." Some don't even speak Spanish. Some of my Asian students at the College do feel a lot of pressure to "succeed." The Asian students who are still learning English often want the "right answer," even if there is no "right answer." This leads me to think that many Asian educational systems emphasize memorization over critical thinking, but I'm not sure if that's the case.
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• Calgary, Alberta
27 Aug 18
@TheHorse My dad did cheat on my mom, I have 2 brothers in Venezuela because of it.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
@CaptAlbertWhisker Sigh. Sorry to hear that. It seems that there are people of all religions who sometimes forget the teachings of their religions when they're away from their church, synagogue, mosque, temple, etc.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
28 Aug 18
I agree with @Corbin5 on location @TheHorse . In the US it really depends on the generational values taught. Anything passed the 1980's sucks.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
Are post-1980s parents too "Liberal"?
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Sep 18
@nanette64 I think you can be "Liberal" and loving and still set BOUNDARIES. I think kids feel safer with clear boundaries.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
16 Sep 18
@TheHorse Absolutely!
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@moichan (666)
• Philippines
27 Aug 18
I guess Asia. In specific, our tradition here in the Philippines is to achieve something great with little support from lazy parents. Then afterwards, we have to take care of them until they die. That's how most parents think here. They thought that the kids are forever indebted to them for bringing them to this world no matter how crappy they were treated. Plus, there's a big percentage of the salary that should go to the parents if not 100%. This is quite normal in poor families. So most of us here goes to overseas so we can be great providers. Most of the people here stop working at a certain age and only relies on their kids. They make their age as an excuse and forever be a burden.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
Interesting perspective My best (older) Filipino friend came to the US and was successful as an Engineer with a Masters Degree. He periodically sends money and goods to his (poor farming) family in the Philippines. His parents are long gone.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Aug 18
@moichan He's a tad on the...frugal ...side.
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@moichan (666)
• Philippines
28 Aug 18
@TheHorse He has a good heart. I hope his hard-earned money will always be put in good use.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
28 Aug 18
I am not sure about it, but I personally think that parents from Asian countries are very strict
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
14 Sep 18
@TheHorse It is hard to say. The western education seems to be much more relaxing. If it can mix the serious education here, it will be perfect.
@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
That's been my observation as well. Do you think that helps or hinders the children?
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@toniganzon (72533)
• Philippines
28 Aug 18
here it's normal to hit a child when the child is being disobedient. Slapping a child's mouth when talking back to parents is quite common too. Is that strict enough?
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@toniganzon (72533)
• Philippines
28 Aug 18
@TheHorse Same here but people hardly make any report at all. Spare a rod, spoil a child. Very common in asian countries. That's why they don't like raising their children in the US, because they can't seem to discipline them there the way they do here.
@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Aug 18
Here in the US, a parent might be reported to CPS for such an act.
@LadyDuck (472074)
• Switzerland
28 Aug 18
Swiss are pretty strict with their kids, more the German Swiss than French and Italian Swiss. My parents were strict and some Italian parents still are pretty strict, unfortunately not all. To encourage the kids to express themselves is good if you teach them that freedom stops where you are a nuisance for the others.
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@LadyDuck (472074)
• Switzerland
14 Sep 18
@TheHorse This is what a good parent is expected to know and this is why I always say that when a mom is expecting a kid, the parent should be encouraged to follow classes to know "how to be a good parent". I had no children, so I cannot reply to your question.
@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
How do parents find the balance between allowing children to express themselves and expecting respect of certain boundaries?
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@db20747 (43440)
• Washington, District Of Columbia
13 Sep 18
Strictness is a good way to draw boundaries!!! And every kid should also be given a chance to express themselves and explore their creativity!!!
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
Would you punish you child for being home late by three minutes?
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
@db20747 Three minutes and three hours (or whatever) are very different.
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@db20747 (43440)
• Washington, District Of Columbia
13 Sep 18
@TheHorse Not by three minutes!!! But if they came home at 3:00, and I mean three o'clock the next day!!! They would hear my wrath!!!! That's what happened to me when I was a teenager!!!! Time just slipped me by!!! Didn't realize it was so late!!!! Was scared outta my mind 2 go home!!!!
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@anya12adwi (9847)
• India
28 Aug 18
it depends upon parents to parents.. it is a very subjective matter..
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Aug 18
Yes, within any culture, there is wide variability. But there are also cultural "norms."
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• India
28 Aug 18
@TheHorse NORMS?? Like what norms??
@tom_view (6451)
• Kolkata, India
28 Aug 18
surely india ranks among them
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
Among the countries that are Liberal toward their children? Or conservative?
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@tom_view (6451)
• Kolkata, India
14 Sep 18
@TheHorse liberal most times but conservative in few cases
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Sep 18
@tom_view Is striking children mostly frowned upon?
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@august18 (3907)
• Tunisia
27 Aug 18
Not in my country
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
Are parents pretty "easy going" in your country? Where is Tunisia anyway?
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
@august18 How were your parents strict? Where is Tunisia? Sorry if I've asked you that before.
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@august18 (3907)
• Tunisia
27 Aug 18
@TheHorse My parents weren't easy going. But Today's parents are.
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@arunima25 (87854)
• Bangalore, India
28 Aug 18
It is quite disciplined and strict in Asian countries. That is how I feel.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
I feel that is the case as well.
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@arunima25 (87854)
• Bangalore, India
14 Sep 18
@TheHorse Asian want their children to be very grounded in their tradition and cultural values. I felt people in Western countries are liberal with that.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
27 Aug 18
I live in England. I think parents in Eastern Europe can be very strict with their children. You can notice that by seeing how the lady from Croatia is so very demanding with her son. We live in modern times where ladies in Saudi Arabia are now allowed to drive. I imagine parents there would be strict with their children.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
I would think so too. Among the upper-middle-class Middle Easterners in San Ramon (a wealthy community where I've had a couple of kid clients), I notice that the Middle Eastern families seem to be living almost a caricature of the American Dream, living in expensive houses, driving Teslas, getting their kids all of the best equipement for skateboarding or scootering, and having them start piano lessons and soccer at 5-years-old.
@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
@TheHorse Whoa. A brilliant comment that received no responses.
@amadeo (111938)
• United States
27 Aug 18
I have never touch or spank my children.Now that they are much older.I need to spank themLOL kidding
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@amadeo (111938)
• United States
27 Aug 18
@TheHorse they always get hugs.Spoiled.LOL
@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
I hope you gave them hugs!
@bluesa (15022)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
27 Aug 18
@TheHorse , because they do seem very disciplined and respect is of utmost importance, I would say Chinese parents are quite strict when it comes to raising their children.
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@bluesa (15022)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
27 Aug 18
@TheHorse Yes, though it looks like Croatian parents are quite strict too!
@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
Yes, Chinese tradition involves honor. One does not directly defy parents, and family is stressed over the individual.
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@just4him (317241)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
27 Aug 18
I wish we had stricter laws in the US.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Aug 18
Stricter in what sense? I don't like seeing parents abuse their kids. But I don't like seeing anyone abusing teachers.
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@just4him (317241)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
30 Aug 18
@TheHorse There's a huge difference between the old-fashioned spanking I got as a kid and abuse. Parents should be allowed to discipline their kids without having the law breathe down their necks for doing so. We have a generation of entitleds out there who expect to be handed everything because their parents couldn't tell them 'no', and couldn't discipline them for acting out. This is my #1 pet peeve with the government.
@Shiva49 (26774)
• Singapore
28 Aug 18
Times have changed in Asian countries. I recall my school days over fifty years ago when children were "seen but not heard". Now, most young parents have only one or two children and that makes them being treasured. I do see some micromanaging their children still - siva
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
I'm not surprised about the "micromanaging."
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@dya80dya (36774)
28 Aug 18
In our country parents are strict.
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@TheHorse (220245)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Sep 18
Eastern Europe. That is my impression as well. Do you think it's good for the kids?