Did you watch the Kavanaugh hearing today?
By NJ Chicaa
@NJChicaa (120059)
United States
September 27, 2018 6:45pm CST
I was working today so I wasn't able to see Dr. Ford speak. I saw a 10 minute clip of her opening statement while I was on a break. She looked as terrified as she stated that she was but she also looked absolutely credible. The reactions that I read from various reporters, experts, and others on Twitter were that she did an excellent job, that she was believable, and that utilizing an outside prosecutor was a terrible strategy for the Republican senators.
I took a nap when I got home from work because I was exhausted so I missed Brett Kavanaugh's opening statement and the beginning of the questioning for him. I did catch the last hour and a half of it, though. I was struck by how many questions Kavanaugh evaded and how he refused to ask for an FBI investigation into the incident. For someone who claims to be innocent, you'd think that an investigation would be able to prove that. He just didn't seem credible to me. I had never seen him on TV before and I didn't really know anything about him. . . but he just didn't convince me that he was innocent.
Did you watch today? What did you think?
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@ScribbledAdNauseum (104628)
• United States
28 Sep 18
Something that struck me is when one senator (I forget which) essentially gave Kavanaugh an opportunity to request an FBI hearing but Grasley did not allow that to happen. I missed part of that part because I was going from one room to another, but that struck me the most.
His opening statement was filled with vehement denial and hatred. There was another part wherein he stopped himself twice, or maybe three times, from talking badly about his accuser's.
Dr. Ford was soft spoken, and she was her own expert witness. I admired her grit and determination, and she did come off as very credible. She clarified things, she told her truth, and I believe her.
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@NJChicaa (120059)
• United States
28 Sep 18
Multiple senators gave him an opportunity to do so. Kamala Harris said it was 4 at least 8 times. . . and that was before she gave him yet another 2 opportunities to do so. If *I* was falsely accused, I'd WELCOME an FBI investigation to clear my name.
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@ScribbledAdNauseum (104628)
• United States
28 Sep 18
@NJChicaa Agreed! Anybody would. I'd have not set foot in the hearing UNTIL the FBI had investigated. Instead, he said that he wanted to be there the next day as if Dr. Ford did not deserve the extra time to ensure that things were fair for her!
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@ScribbledAdNauseum (104628)
• United States
28 Sep 18
@NJChicaa They are voting on it tomorrow morning. They aren't even giving time to really think about it. Tonight they went to their homes in DC, ate dinner with their families or else called their families and are now heading off to bed to be ready first thing in the morning.
Lindsay Graham's little speech I felt was rehearsed.
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@moffittjc (121659)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Sep 18
I haven't been following at all. I tend to avoid anything to do with politics. Without choosing sides here, I take everything with a grain of salt. I have no doubt in my mind that all parties involved in this situation have hired professional coaches to prep them in how to look, act, respond, etc during this ordeal. A friend of mine worked for years as a professional coach to many insiders in Washington. They train them how to look strong, weak, scared, happy, etc. He said almost everything we see on TV that involves politicians is all an act that is carefully choreographed and rehearsed.
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@moffittjc (121659)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Sep 18
@NJChicaa I'm sorry if my comment made it appear that Ford is not being genuine. Unfortunately, only her and Kavanaugh know for sure what happened that night 30 years ago.
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@NJChicaa (120059)
• United States
28 Sep 18
@moffittjc If Kavanaugh drank as much as everyone says, he may not remember it and may truly believe that he didn't do it. Who knows?
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
28 Sep 18
I watched the entire thing from beginning to end -- all eight hours of it. The Democratic strategy was to try to delay by implying if he was innocent he should ask for an FBI investigation. Even Joe Biden, who was quoted several times today, said an FBI investigation would not provide more information than the senators themselves can get by asking questions at the hearing. Most Democratic Senators did not take advantage of their opportunity to ask questions to get information. Instead they made statements that implied any innocent person would ask for an FBI investigation. The only questions they seemed to ask were Gotcha questions in the "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" category.
I believe Kavanagh was credible, as was Ford. All the senators in both parties bent over backwards to treat Ford with respect and listen to what she had to say. That doesn't mean she was right or was not mistaken as to the identify of her attacker. No one could corroborate her story under oath, and the four whom she said witnessed her attack stated under oath it didn't happen and they were at no such party with the judge.
If this keeps Kavanagh from being confirmed and destroys his life, no one's husband, brother, father, or son is safe from a similar attack on his character. Accusations need to be proved, not just made. I find it interesting that the Democratic senators who can't prove that this man is guilty had no problem with the way Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy, Keith Ellison or even JFK treated women. If all it takes to have one's life ruined by a smear campaign is to be on the wrong political side of his attackers, then no one is safe.
Consider the Communists. One day one is in power. Then if his enemies get into power he is not safe. Consider Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky and how while at first allied they later became enemies. Those with a totalitarian mindset tend to attack each other even in the same party. The Progressives running the Democratic Party today use the same tactics. They use the Constitution for their own purposes, often using their rights to deprive others of their free speech and free exercise of religion. They smear opponents and sometimes even attack them physically through their Antifa allies. It's not Republicans shouting down their opponents in public places while they are having dinner.
My husband got out of a Communist prison when he was a boy about to be tortured in front of his parents during interrogations. He only escaped because Tito and the Stalinists had been vying for power and the Stalinists lost. They were put in prison with my mother-in-law and they were able to tell her how to get my husband out because they understood Tito's propaganda campaign to the West. They threatened to get the story into the New York and London Times through an Polish ambassador that had left the country. Then my husband was released to his relatives. (This all took place, of course, long before I even met my husband, who finally made it to Canada and afterward to the United States.)
Many lives have been destroyed by false rape accusations. Young men have served years of jail time before their accusers finally admit they were lying. Hear the accusers out. Let them have their say. But we don't have to believe every accusation that comes from a woman just because she's a woman. We need to have evidence -- even in the court of public opinion.
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@Deepizzaguy (103967)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
28 Sep 18
All I saw was the reports on the internet that Judge Kavanaugh exploded in rage over the story of his indiscretions.
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@Deepizzaguy (103967)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
28 Sep 18
@NJChicaa That is true.
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@NJChicaa (120059)
• United States
28 Sep 18
I have only seen tiny snippets from his opening statement. Supposedly he was very angry, blistering, forceful, etc. and it was written/performed with Trump in mind. He knew that Trump would be watching and had heard that the future of his nomination (whether Trump continued to back him or withdrew it) hinged on how powerfully he presented himself.
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@andriaperry (117133)
• Anniston, Alabama
28 Sep 18
No I am not interested in politics. If I cnt cast a vote I am not wasting my time on it.
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@andriaperry (117133)
• Anniston, Alabama
28 Sep 18
@NJChicaa I do vote but this .... thing today is just a job interview. In my experience with the courts, probate mostly, judges have a God complex, so I already know what this one will say and do, I don`y have to watch.
Do I think he did things to girls and woman? Sure he did.
But what matters is not one of those woman came forward when this happened for evidence to be collected, and his name filed on police reports. There was never a case made and that is what is sad.
So its he said she said no matter what, there is no proof.
With that being said, their words have no meaning and it looks like they just did not like him in school.
We have to teach girls to come forward no matter if they are 5 years old or 20.
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@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
28 Sep 18
i had to work,but i heard kavanuagh lost his crap and was yelling or something..
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@WendySpickerman (983)
• United States
28 Sep 18
I found both parties involved highly questionable.
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