Are Mothers Always Women?

@owlwings (43910)
Cambridge, England
May 12, 2019 2:28am CST
Isn't it rather odd that when we say that someone 'fathered a child' we only understand that he did the basic creation bit and no more, yet when we talk about 'mothering' we mean a whole lot more than just giving birth? 'To mother' means everything from making sure the child is clothed and fed, has their hair brushed and their face washed, has their packed lunch and will get to school on time to giving comfort and cuddles, mending grazed knees and soothing bruises ... the list goes on! Fathers (well, good ones) do a lot of this as well (and so do uncles and aunts and grandpas and grandmas, of course) and more so these days, when both parents often have to work. Some countries (but not the UK, for one) are celebrating Mother's Day today. Let's not forget that good fathers also do quite a bit of 'mothering', too! Did you have a father who did that? Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers and fathers and uncles and aunts and grandpas and grandmas and even random friends who have ever had to mother a child, even for only a little while! I have always thought that this song reminds me best of what 'mothering' means (even though it's all about the lack of it!). Odetta's version is just about the best I've heard:
From the album 'Odetta at Carnegie Hall' (1963) Odetta accompanying herself on guitar with Bill Lee on string bass; Choir from Church of the Master; Director...
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@josie_ (10032)
• Philippines
12 May 19
Maybe we should lump all similarly related celebration into one Parent's day. Very politically correct in today's myriad forms of gender identity. Just call it "parenting".
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 19
I agree that 'parenting' should be celebrated (in general), though I do dislike the word 'parenting'!
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 19
@josie_ 'Parents' is fine. Somehow, the word 'parenting' makes me think of all those articles about 'being a good parent' which are so pontificating and patronising.
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@josie_ (10032)
• Philippines
12 May 19
@owlwings _My curiosity got the best of me. Why do you dislike the word "parenting"? How about "parents"?
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@arunima25 (87855)
• Bangalore, India
12 May 19
I am glad that we have come to an era of shared parenting with both parents working. Both parents equally share the responsibility and no one is denied of the pleasure because of their gender. We do celebrate Father's Day too in June.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 19
It seems that many countries (including some of India and the UK - only since the mid 20th Century) celebrate Fathers' Day on the third Sunday of June. I had thought that it was purely an American invention but, apparently, the Roman Catholics have celebrated fathers on March 19th (the Feast of St. Joseph) at least since the Middle Ages.
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@arunima25 (87855)
• Bangalore, India
12 May 19
@owlwings I am glad that we are acknowledging fathers as equal in parenting. And good that more and more men are breaking the stereotypes and becoming a hands on father doing all that was earlier confined to a mom's role.
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@arunima25 (87855)
• Bangalore, India
12 May 19
@Thewings Yes they both are important. Glad that more and more dads are enjoying their role of nurturer other than being only the provider.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
12 May 19
A mother is a person who started to love her baby before seeing him/her. However, I do agree there are so many people do the duties as a mother. We have to respect them all. Thank you for your wishes.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
13 May 19
@Fleura I agree there is exceptions. If she is in that position without her will then probably she can't love the baby. My statement is apt for those who long for a child and on getting pregnant they definitely start to love the baby inside womb regardless of gender, colour etc.
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@Fleura (30539)
• United Kingdom
12 May 19
A mother cared for the baby before knowing it, but may not necessarily have loved it.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
12 May 19
My personal honest thought is we who fathered did not carry what we made for 9 months , fed it inside plus the risk of dying because of it. Secondly we simply don't have the mammary glands necessary to give the first nourishment outside the womb that contains natural immunity so " mothering" is steps ahead . After these stages then it's all about even for fathering, " uncling" , grandmothering, etc..and the likes. You are right we should congratulate every one who did a part and a good job.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 19
It's very true, of course, that we didn't do all of those things that only women can do. It's odd, though, that when we think of the action of 'mothering', it is not that which immediately comes to mind - I suppose that is mostly because we ourselves don't have much memory of that part of it and remember much more clearly the years when we were children rather than infants.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
12 May 19
@owlwings agree, natural infantile amnesia plays a big role.
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• China
12 May 19
There is something in what you said ! In real life,there are many fathers who do as much as a mother for their children.This must be the reason why there is Father's Day.
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@LadyDuck (472004)
• Switzerland
12 May 19
We should celebrate a "parent day", better yet a "family day". My father worked all the day, my mother stayed at home, but the were both equally important in my life, as well as was my paternal grandmother who lived with us.
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@BarBaraPrz (47622)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
12 May 19
I first heard Motherless Child on Peter, Paul and Mary's A Song Will Rise album, one of the first LPs I owned. I'd often replay that cut, even though I definitely had a mother at the time. It just triggered something in me.
Peter, Paul & Mary_A Song Will Rise(1965)
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 19
As a small bit-player in the 'Folk Song Revival' of the 60s, 70s, 80s and ... (well, I think it's revived now, but I keep singing the songs anyway), we always rather disparaged Peter, Paul and Mary. Listening to them again (and the track right after that was their cover of Ewan McColl's beautiful "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face"), I realise that they had some very good arrangements and Mary Travers' voice is truly lovely. Of course, they've added some verses to "Motherless Child" to make it long enough.
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@rebelann (112962)
• El Paso, Texas
22 Jan 20
Don't you also celebrate fathers day? Our's is in June.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
22 Jan 20
Yes, we do have a Fathers' Day but it's a more modern innovation than our Mothers' Day, which is also known as Mothering Sunday.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
23 Jan 20
@rebelann Apparently, the custom arose in about the 16th Century of returning to one's 'mother' church on the 4th Sunday in Lent. The 'mother' church was either the church in which one had been baptised or the cathedral of the diocese. It became a custom for people in service (working away from home in a large country house) to be given the day off to visit their home parish and their families and this gradually evolved into the secular practice of honouring one's mother on that day. In the early part of the 20th Century, the practice had begun to lapse and a lady named Constance Penswick-Smith, inspired by the efforts of Anna Jarvis in the United States, started a movement for its revival. Our Mother's Day is always on the 4th Sunday in Lent and, as Lent varies with Easter, falls on a different day each year. This year it is March 22nd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothering_Sunday
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@rebelann (112962)
• El Paso, Texas
23 Jan 20
How long ago was that initiated @owlwings ?
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@hereandthere (45645)
• Philippines
12 May 19
i only saw our father do household chores when he retired. i don't remember seeing fathers out with their sons or daughters. but now, it's good to see them in public transportation, eating out, grocery shopping. even the commercials here are now feature stay-at-home fathers.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 19
I, too, see fathers doing much more with their children than they used to. I was considered an oddity when I became a stay-at-home dad for a year or so in the '80s.
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@epiffanie (11326)
• Australia
19 Sep 19
I divorced when my three boys were very young.. And I tried my very best to be the mother and the father at the same time because unfortunately, the ex husband was not that much interested... But I have met a lot of fathers that are also excellent in playing the role of mother.. Some of the best fathers I know are mothers.. and some of the best mothers I know are fathers ...
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
19 Sep 19
We're all different and, perhaps, the best of us (as parents) have a mixture of male and female characteristics and can be 'mother' or 'father' as required. Some men, I know, just aren't ready to be fathers even when they have children. Only the other day my niece said that her husband admitted he wasn't ready for fatherhood when their first child arrived (he's been a pretty good dad ever since, though, to his credit!)
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@epiffanie (11326)
• Australia
20 Sep 19
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@simone10 (54187)
• Louisville, Kentucky
19 May 19
My father wasn't the motherly type. He was tough and gruff but he loved us all and showed it in the little things he did for our family.
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@Fleura (30539)
• United Kingdom
12 May 19
You're right, it is strange and yet I guess to a certain extent it reflects the reality of who does what. But as you say fathering is more than just a 15-min effort! Many fathers over the years have put in a lot of work behind the scenes though - I know my father (in the 70s) read me endless stories, bathed me, rocked me to sleep as a baby, taught me to read and write, played games with me in the garden... nevertherless it was rare until relatively recently to see an unaccompanied man out in public with a pram or pushchair, people would be looking at him wondering whether he'd stolen it! Just in the last 15 years or so that has become quite commonplace.
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4 Sep 20
Yes. By definition, truth, fact and nature of the word, 'mother'.
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@debjani1 (7202)
12 May 19
Happy mother's day to all the people who take total care of their child. Doesn't matter whether its a father or a mother.
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@yanzalong (18987)
• Indonesia
6 Aug 19
Of course mothers are women but mothering is not. It depends who does the mothering.
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@psanasangma (7281)
• India
20 Jun 19
Tittle seek clarification, in this present days, mothers' role can be played by fathers also but difference is only father will be father because of gender based, mother cannot be called father, father cannot be called mother..
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• United States
14 Sep 19
Both Father and Mother did give their all to us, all of us. I so miss them both and their selfless love. RIP
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@nitsbubb (1308)
• Pune, India
7 Sep 19
Absolutely valid! Mother can be "father" as well!
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@jstory07 (139782)
• Roseburg, Oregon
28 Aug 19
Both parents should mother the child you raise better children that way.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
12 Dec 19
Sharing parenting tasks has come a long way since I was a child. I’m quite happy about that, especially since many women have returned to the workforce and need help. Love your topic, and it’s so true!
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