The man who owed me $3500 has died.

@TheHorse (220225)
Walnut Creek, California
October 11, 2019 8:33pm CST
I have posted in the past about a man for whom I have done an extensive amount of vintage loudspeaker work. He paid me occasionally ($250 into my PayPal account), but never came close to paying me what he owed me. At a certain point, I stopped working for him and forwarded the amount owing to an attorney friend who had been a student of mine at Diablo Valley College. She specializes in wills and trusts. At this point, I am trying to figure out the best way to collect what he owes me. Could my attorney friend contact those who administer his accout and figure out a way to "make me whole."? I have never dealt with this kind of thing before. Have you ever dealt with a similar situation?
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@andriaperry (117141)
• Anniston, Alabama
12 Oct 19
Go to the probate office, and file a lien against the estate, the lien will be paid out of his estate.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
Is this a County thing?
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
@andriaperry Thank you. I will attempt to do this. My attorney fiend must be out of town.
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@andriaperry (117141)
• Anniston, Alabama
12 Oct 19
@TheHorse Yes and that is why it takes 6 months or more to probate a will, so the debt collectors can file, it cost nothing here in Alabama.
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@LadyDuck (472097)
• Switzerland
12 Oct 19
If you have documents to prove that he owes you money, send them to your friend lawyer because you can get your money.
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@LadyDuck (472097)
• Switzerland
13 Oct 19
@TheHorse It surely works differently in your country than in Italy or here in Switzerland.
@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
Thanks for the info. Looks like I have to find the "probate office" in his City or County.
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• United States
12 Oct 19
No , never dealt with this situation but hope you get your $ back!
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• United States
12 Oct 19
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
Thank you. I hope so too.
@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
@infatuatedbby I'm sure I'll post about it.
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@wolfgirl569 (108144)
• Marion, Ohio
12 Oct 19
Like Andria said. If you have a bill or something that will help a lot to prove he owed you.
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@wolfgirl569 (108144)
• Marion, Ohio
12 Oct 19
@TheHorse That will help a lot. The only way they cant really pay is by not filling his will and that often is not an option. The only other way is to prove there is not enough money for everyone if he owes a lot.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
@wolfgirl569 I bet he has a lot of "creditors" (is that the right word)? When he owed people money, he tended to ignore their emails and calls.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
I do have that. And, fortunately, I sent copies to my "attorney" periodically as the debt increased.
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@Mike197602 (15512)
• United Kingdom
12 Oct 19
Depends if he has assets. Over here you'd contact the executor and claim against the estate. Probably will take a long time.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
That's OK (long time). I don't "need" the money. But it would be nice to have it.
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@Hannihar (130213)
• Israel
17 Oct 19
@TheHorse Maybe explain the situation to whoever is reading the will to the family and see if there is some way you can get the rest of the money.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 Oct 19
It sounds like going to the probate office is the way to go.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
18 Oct 19
@Hannihar I did a bit of research about it today and will do more tomorrow. Right now I pretend it's the Sabbath. Except I'm on computer and intend to play some guitar tonight.
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@Hannihar (130213)
• Israel
17 Oct 19
@TheHorse Maybe a place to check out.
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@cherriefic (10399)
• Philippines
14 Oct 19
That's a lot of money he owes you. You really need a professional for that.
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@cherriefic (10399)
• Philippines
18 Oct 19
@TheHorse At least you know the actions you need to do. Good luck!
• United States
12 Oct 19
I assume you have proof he owes it right? you should be able to make a claim on it, once it has been announced. I thought there is something that gets put in the newspaper, so any creditors, can collect from any money he has left behind.
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• United States
12 Oct 19
@TheHorse yes keep on it.
@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
I am not sure how this kind of thing works, but over the last two years, I have sant several emails to my attorney friend, with the "amount owing" attached, just in case something like this might happen.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
@CookieMonster46 I am glad to hear that. I ill call my attorney again. I am assuming she is out of town.
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@rakski (126010)
• Philippines
12 Oct 19
never been in this kind of situation but I am hoping you will be able to get pay
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@rakski (126010)
• Philippines
12 Oct 19
@TheHorse good to know that
@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
Thank you. I hope so too. I've done a lot of my attorney friend, so I know she would go the "extra mile" to make sure I was made "whole."
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@thelme55 (77167)
• Germany
12 Oct 19
Sorry to hear about that. I hope you will still get your money from those who inherits his estate or so.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
I'll do what I can. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Oct 19
@thelme55 Thanks,Thelma. I'm sure I'll write about what happens.
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@thelme55 (77167)
• Germany
13 Oct 19
@TheHorse Good luck!
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@arunima25 (87854)
• Bangalore, India
12 Oct 19
Oh! that is bad. I have never been in such situation. Hope you get to recover your money. It's a decent amount.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
I wait response from my friend. My hunch is that she's on a cruise somewhere. Feh.
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@arunima25 (87854)
• Bangalore, India
12 Oct 19
@TheHorse I hope you get to hear from her soon.
@Janet357 (75646)
12 Oct 19
no, this is kinda unusual. yes, you may ask those who administer his account
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
I'm trying to contact my attorney friend who specializes in wills and trusts, but she must be out of town.
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@Janet357 (75646)
13 Oct 19
@TheHorse update us on this hope you it.will be.resolved. it.is a huge amount of.money.
• Sonora, California
12 Oct 19
I hope you are able to collect what he owes you!
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
I'm sure I'll post about it. I can't figure out why my attorney friend, for whom I have done many incredible things, has not responded to my email to her. She must be out of town, which sucks.
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• Sonora, California
12 Oct 19
@TheHorse That’s not cool, it would have only taken a moment of her time!
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
@Michellekidwell This is true. Our relationship is not very balanced. She was the inspiration behind Moth Song, the first song I ever posted to YouTube.
@cperry2 (5608)
• Newport, Oregon
12 Oct 19
Your attorney (or you) can file a claim against the estate. The executor is responsible for clearing debts of the deceased. If there are sufficient funds for the estate to pay all the debts then you will get paid. If not???
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
He lived in squalor, and was a hoarder. But I believe he owns a house, so he should have some assets. Do you know how quickly I have to act?
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 Oct 19
@cperry2 It appears that there is a "probate office" that handles such matters.
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@cperry2 (5608)
• Newport, Oregon
13 Oct 19
@TheHorse I am no lawyer and not real familiar with California laws, but my suggestion would be to file a claim as quickly as possible. You will need to find out who the executor is and send them a copy of your invoice or contract and do it with a return receipt requested card attached so they have to sign for it. That way you will have some proof that they have received it. But you might find you need to go to small claims court to get a judgement against the estate. I really don't know. I suggest asking an attorney. They will not take the case since it is so little money but many do offer a free consult.
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@GardenGerty (160952)
• United States
12 Oct 19
You have already received the advice I would have given. I hope you get some results.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
Thanks. We'll see what happens!
@piya84 (2580)
• India
17 Oct 19
Happened with me once.One of my friend took money from me and suddenly passed away. I informed his mom.She was very honest women.She immediately returned it to me. I luckily i never have to go through the hassle of legal system.
@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
18 Oct 19
I'm glad you were spared having to deal with the legal system.
@garymarsh6 (23404)
• United Kingdom
12 Oct 19
IF he owed you that amount of money then technically if you can supply the proof to his executors then yes they should pay up but if he has no money and his possessions are of little value then it looks like you have learnt the hard way! Here is a note for you. Don't be so nice in the future. Pay up when the work is done or wait until you can pay for it. Harsh but you are too kind!
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
18 Oct 19
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
13 Oct 19
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Oct 19
Got it. Thanks. I'll give it a shot.
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@LindaOHio (181642)
• United States
12 Oct 19
Looks like Andria has the answer for you. Good luck!
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
Yeppers, she does. Thanks!
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@CarolDM (203422)
• Nashville, Tennessee
12 Oct 19
Looks like our friend Angie has given you excellent advice as always.
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@TheHorse (220225)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
I will be following it. Sadly, my wills and trusts lawyer friend appears to be out of town.
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