To buy or to rent?
@sprite1950 (30452)
Corsham, England
January 16, 2020 1:26am CST
This year my mortgage finishes and I am so excited to be having the extra money in my bank account. I feel like I've always had this millstone around my neck.
The only thing I hate about buying my own property is the fact I have to pay for my own repairs which can be expensive. My sister rents her flat and her repairs are done free so I can see the attraction, but having said that she will always be paying money to live there whereas I will own my property and have something to leave my kids.
What do you think, is it better to buy or rent?
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@Alexandoy (65308)
• Cainta, Philippines
16 Jan 20
We had fully paid our home mortgage 3 years ago. No more monthly expenses. We used to rent and we were lucky to be able to get a bank loan. To own your home is the best.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
Yes I agree. My home will be paid for in August this year and I am looking forward to having the extra money in my account.
@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
@Alexandoy It's nearly £400 for me which is around $520 per month. Property is very expensive here.
@Alexandoy (65308)
• Cainta, Philippines
16 Jan 20
@sprite1950 it's a nice feeling when the mortgage is fully paid. That's an extra $200 monthly.
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@vandana7 (100617)
• India
16 Jan 20
It depends upon where you live, and cost of living in the neighborhood, relevant laws etc., the rate at which rents increase and prevailing interest rates, and the age and stage of your life, and your earnings.
Personally, a small house that keeps the cost of repairs, and utilities at the lowest should be owned. Large homes we can rent. It is not logical to own them.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
My house is quite small but I figured that when my granddaughter has flown the nest I might be able to buy something cheaper and make some money on the sale. Moving costs are huge here though.
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@vandana7 (100617)
• India
16 Jan 20
@sprite1950 In India, it makes sense to own several small homes. You see, rents are decent. Larger and sophisticated homes can mean richer and powerful people coming down to take them on rent, and then they do not vacate, and cause legal issues. Smaller homes are usually taken on rent by people in lower and middle classes, and rents increase at the rate of 10 percent per annum, compounded annually. So yeah quite lucrative when you consider that bank pays about 6.5 percent per annum, simple interest, and other alternative is risky stock market. Real estate here has another advantage. Valuations are not revised for the purposes of wealth tax calculations but valuations are visible in stock markets and bank deposits or bonds. So a person is not liable for taxes on capital gains till he or she sells. Only hassle is legal aspects. You have to be very careful investing and equally careful while selling or letting it out.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
@vandana7 It's very different here. Very few people own more than one property unless they have been left one by a deceased parent and then they would either sell it or rent it out.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
20 Feb 20
I took it out quite late in life. I was 49 and then I remortgaged for two cars which was stupid as it would have been finished years ago if I hadn't done that. The repairs are expensive with owning, that's the only thing I don't like.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
23 Feb 20
@Lushlala I definitely don't regret buying and although you think you will never reach the end of the payments, suddenly you are almost there and that's a great feeling.
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@Lushlala (4028)
• Gaborone, Botswana
22 Feb 20
@sprite1950 Wow, Linda you just gave me hope, there. I keep thinking to myself, will I ever own my own property?! The good thing about Botswana is that it's still relatively easy to get a piece of land free from the government or even buy it cheap from someone else.
The repairs being expensive doesn't bother me too much because at least you know it's your own house.
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@LadyDuck (472074)
• Switzerland
16 Jan 20
I do not know how it works in your country, but for rents, you can be asked to pay more every 1st January of the year. When your contract ends (every 3 years) the owner could decide not to renew and you have to find another place and to move (this is VERY expensive!). You do not pay for the repairs, but you pay for the rent, money thrown out of the window. At least once your house is paid you can always decide to sell and your money comes back in your pockets.
We have rented for many years and we regret.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
It's slightly different here. If you rent privately you can stay as long as you like providing you pay your rent unless the landlord suddenly decides to sell and then you get 2 months notice. They will have a fixed term contract which is decided by the landlord, it could be 1 or more years and they cannot leave before this term is complete but my friends have been in their house for 10 years with no rent increase. Sometimes the landlord will only want to let for a short term like 6 months. Rent increases are at the discretion of the landlord but can be any time. It's more random here.
With council renting you can stay as long as you like. My mum was in her council flat for more than 30 years but the rent increases were yearly and affordable. My sister does the same and has been in her flat for 25 years.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
@LadyDuck Private renting here is less reliable. A friend of mine had water pouring through her ceiling but the landlord wouldn't fix it so she eventually moved out. The council will fix it right away and everything is more organised and up together.
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@LadyDuck (472074)
• Switzerland
17 Jan 20
@sprite1950 You have a very good renting system. When we lived in Monte Carlo it was the French system, even if you had a 5 years contract, the rent was automatically adjusted to the "cost of living", if the cost of living went up 10% during the year, the rent was adjusted. In Monte Carlo it was impossible to buy, because the price of a small apartment it is simply ridiculous and half of our rent was payed by a client of my husband who asked him to follow his Administrative office there. For us it was a great arrangement.
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@moffittjc (121714)
• Gainesville, Florida
16 Jan 20
I agree a lot with what Vanny said in her comments. There are advantages to owning, but there are also advantages to renting. In a sense, paying a mortgage and owning property is like a forced savings account, meaning you can eventually capture that wealth back in the form of equity in your property or home. Whereas in renting you don't get that luxury. Historically, owning was always the better route to go, but after the Great Recession, many people started re-thinking the whole ownership issue. Many are finding that it is cheaper for them to rent. I guess overall, it just depends on preference.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
I did think about renting again at one point but now my mortgage is ending I'm pleased I carried on. I will have the extra money each month to put towards repairs or anything else that I want. It works out at around £400 a month ($520).
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@moffittjc (121714)
• Gainesville, Florida
17 Jan 20
@sprite1950 That's a nice amount of extra money you will have now! Do you have any other income as well? Are you retired, or do you still work?
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
@moffittjc I am retired but I get paid for having my granddaughter. The silly thing is I'm better off than I ever was when I worked. Taking on custody of her coincided with my retirement date which was lucky. They pay kinship carers well because it would cost them a lot more if a child has to go into the care system.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
22 Feb 20
Yes even though the repairs are expensive.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
23 Feb 20
@florelway This happened to my friends. The owner decided to sell the property and they had to find somewhere else.
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@florelway (23286)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
22 Feb 20
@sprite1950 in the long run buying a property is much more practical than just renting. Worst scenario when one is renting is that when the owner decides to use the property for his own use then you will have to be kicked out and you have no place to go because it would be more expensive to find another place.
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@divalounger (6117)
• United States
16 Jan 20
First, congrats on almost being done! What an accomplishment! Personally, I think it is better to buy if you can, but now everyone can and sometimes it just isn't practical--when you do, you learn how to fix things is what I have discovered
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@divalounger (6117)
• United States
17 Jan 20
@sprite1950 We are a couple of years away still--It will feel like a relief I am sure!
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
18 Jan 20
@divalounger A couple of years isn't too bad. At least you are getting there.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
Thank you so much. When I first took on my mortgage the end seemed so far away. I can hardly believe I am nearly there.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
Yes it's quite exciting to think my mortgage will end in the summer. At least I will have more money to save for repairs.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
@rakski Yes I think it finishes in August so that will be my last payment
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@rakski (126043)
• Philippines
16 Jan 20
@sprite1950 I am excited for you! unlike in renting, as you said never ending payment and in the end, you still have no property
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
That always occurred to me. A friend of mine ended up living in a campervan when he lost his home. Better than being homeless though.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
@JudyEv I think it's because the repairs can be so expensive. When you rent the repairs are the landlord's responsibility.
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@JudyEv (342088)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 20
@sprite1950 You pay rent forever. You might as well use it to pay off a home - but not everyone thinks that way.
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@Bensen32 (27753)
• United States
16 Jan 20
Well as others said both can be good and bad. Right now I rent, I use to own but then got divorced and we decided to sell. unfortunately the house market was for crap and we barely broke even so it was almost like we rented the house but with a lot more headaches. That being the short story of it, it kind of left a bad taste about buying another house. So for now I rent but perhaps in the next few years that will change.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
Yes I understand that life chucks hurdles in our way and makes a situation impossible. Maybe you will be in a position to buy further down the line
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@Bensen32 (27753)
• United States
17 Jan 20
@sprite1950 Yea, I hope so cause renting certainly feels like throwing money out the window.
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@Bensen32 (27753)
• United States
20 Jan 20
@sprite1950 Oh, not familiar with council property, we don't have that here.
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@oahuwriter (26777)
• United States
1 Feb 20
Being single with no children, rent is best for me. But you're married and would like to leave your children a house to live in, so it's good for you. I like, your sister have no repair bills at all, but I can't have solar either if I wanted one. I'd like a solar air conditioning if I can afford it.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
1 Feb 20
I'm not married now and have paid off most of my mortgage myself but I can see the benefits of renting if you are a single parent. I sometimes wish I hadn't bought my house when it comes to repairs.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
4 Feb 20
@oahuwriter Yes we can do that over here with some appliances like boilers but not everything. I don't think we have a single plan for all repairs .. it's worth investigating though as I would be interested in something like that.
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@oahuwriter (26777)
• United States
4 Feb 20
@sprite1950
It can be costly, but have you seen the commercial about having a home plan, paying monthly for repairs that the company does or they replace with new appliance. I've been seeing 2 different ones, they must be on youtube. I found one American Home Shield, though good to check with bbb.org about companies. Living in an apt. I don't keep up but see commercials about it. Good luck whatever you decide.
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@porwest (92588)
• United States
26 Jan 20
I think ultimately it is better to buy. But I always add a bit of a caveat in there. It's best if you intend to live in the house pretty much forever and are endeavoring to eventually pay it off. For that very reason, to dramatically reduce your living expenses, especially in retirement. I get that some people see the value in always upgrading, using equity in house 1 and house 2 and house 3 to eventually be in the house they want. The problem with that is that every time you do that you start the clock back over again and by the time you reach retirement the likelihood that you will still have a mortgage is high.
Ultimately I say owning is better. But both have advantages.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
26 Jan 20
I was always taught by my parents that it is better to buy although I hate the fact I am responsible for the repairs which are so expensive. It will get easier in August when my mortgage ends. I really can't wait as the extra cash can be put towards repairs ... or maybe a new car
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
27 Jan 20
@porwest The house I bought was originally owned by the local council and I bought it at a remarkably cheap discount price when I was 49 which is quite late to take out a mortgage. I would have paid it off had I not remortgaged for cars (which I bitterly regret now). I sold it and bought a much nicer house, the one I live in now and it will be paid off in August this year but it does need a little modernisation.
I look at my sister's rented flat which has been kept up to date beautifully by the council and wonder if it has been worth it but at least I will have something to leave my kids when I die and that was the main reason for buying it at the time.
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@porwest (92588)
• United States
26 Jan 20
@sprite1950 Yeah, I mean, for the most part your parents are right. It's when you think of things like this that makes you shake your head a bit. I bought a duplex in 1998 for $120,500. My average monthly payment with escrow was $1200. I owned it for 20 years. So, I paid $288,000 out over that period of time. Granted, I DID collect rents. But there were furnaces, appliances, decks, roofs, and any other things I had to spend money on over the course. Carpets, paint, vacancies... I bought it for $120,500, paid out $288,000, and sold it for $95,000 in 2018. When all was said and done I was negative $72,500. My wife and I bought a house in 2007 for $177,000. Our average mortgage payment with escrow was $1500 per month. We owned it for 8 years. We spent $144,000 in 8 years and still owed over $145,000 when we sold.
If we would have kept the house to pay it off in 30 years we would have paid about $540,000 for a $177,000 house.
The duplex, that actually went down in value, would have cost me $432,000 if I'd have kept it for 30 years and paid it off. Even if I could have sold it for say, $150,000, I'd still have been out $282,000. My HOUSE would have been worth maybe $300,000 by the time we would have paid it off. I'd be out $240,000 over the course of the loan period.
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@arunima25 (87854)
• Bangalore, India
16 Jan 20
Both have their own pros and cons. The choice would depend on the place and the preference of the individual. We preferred to buy it and now we have three of them... Two on rent and we live in one.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
It's too expensive for most people in the UK to buy more than one property as it is expensive here but I generally think it is better to buy.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
@arunima25 Property is very expensive in the UK. My mortgage is nearly paid off but some young couples today cannot afford the cost of buying a house.
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@arunima25 (87854)
• Bangalore, India
17 Jan 20
@sprite1950 Yes. Your decision will be based on your earnings, requirement, cost of living at your place and definitely the price of real estate there.
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@yoalldudes (35037)
• Philippines
16 Jan 20
I prefer to rent. If ever I have my own house it will be a tiny house without a trailer with a loft.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
Yes there are benefits to renting. The repairs are the responsibility of the landlord so you don't have to pay for them yourself.
@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
@yoalldudes That sound quite cheap. My sister has a 2 bed flat and she pays amost £400 a month (which is more than $500) but property in the UK is expensive both to buy and rent.
@yoalldudes (35037)
• Philippines
17 Jan 20
@sprite1950 The rent in our place is $60 a month but since we had a few expenses for its improvement it was reduced to $40. It is along coastal area.
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@dodo19 (47336)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
16 Jan 20
@sprite1950 It definitely can be a good investment for sure. I'm glad that you've almost got it all paid off.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
@dodo19 Once it is paid off I will probably use the spare money I have for repairs and updating my house.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
I bought my house quite late in life at the age of 49 but I am now 69 and it is almost paid off. I think it's a good investment.
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@maclanis (2406)
• Belgium
16 Jan 20
I think both are fine, but right now we own a house, and I must say it's pretty great. It's a lot of work to get things in order, but you can really change anything you want and decorate it the way you like it. You don't have to ask anytime you need anything fixed or changed. It's also quite a nice feeling to know you own a house, honestly. It's like were paying rent, but it's all going towards our house, so it's less of a 'loss', I guess.
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@maclanis (2406)
• Belgium
17 Jan 20
@sprite1950 Another reason buying a house might be the better idea.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
@maclanis My son's eyes lit up when I told him that the proceeds of the house would be divided between his sister, his daughter and himself when I die
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
Oh yes definitely and I have two children and a granddaughter that will inherit the property when I die. I want to leave them something.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
16 Jan 20
Mine should be finished in August as I didn't take it out until I was nesrly 50. I am quite excited.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
16 Jan 20
@sprite1950 I feel your excitement and good for you!
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
I have done both and I must say it was nice having the repairs done free. That's the only downside to owning, the repairs can be expensive.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
@thelme55 Yes but if it's not kept up together it can deteriorate badly
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@thelme55 (77165)
• Germany
17 Jan 20
@sprite1950 Yes, the repairs are annoying. There is always something to repair in a house.
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@dgobucks226 (35733)
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17 Jan 20
I think owning your own home mortgage free is much better than renting. The money you now don't have to pay out can be saved and if you needed repairs you could utilize that income. Renting as you point out means always paying money out and rental increases do occur over time. Some rentals can have parking issues where you may not be able to park close to your apartment, especially if your on the 2nd level. You can park in your driveway a big convenience when unloading items from your car.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
17 Jan 20
Unfortunately I don't have a driveway attached to my house which is why I got it more cheaply but I do intend to buy another house at some point and it will definitely have a drive as the parking is terrible where I live and I have to park in the cul de sac at the top of my road. I sometimes wonder what I was thinking when I bought my house but I loved it and decided it was the worth putting up with the parking.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
20 Jan 20
@dgobucks226 I've always been lucky with neighbours. I have had a few disagreements from time to time but we always managed to sort it out.
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@dgobucks226 (35733)
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19 Jan 20
@sprite1950 I understand. There are so many factors to consider in buying a home another being your neighbors and neighborhood. In retrospect, having known ahead of time about the weekend visitors to our neighborhood and some of the inconsiderate neighbors I came across, I probably would have choose another location.
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@Mabeljoe (125)
• Philippines
4 Mar 20
Owning a property is different from renting. Yes, you have to budget for repairs but thats not monthly basis and the feeling that any day tomorrow the property is yours. Nobody will tell you that they might need your place in few months time.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
4 Mar 20
Yes, I have 5 more months left on my mortgage so I'm on the countdown now.
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@sprite1950 (30452)
• Corsham, England
4 Mar 20
@Mabeljoe Thank you. When I first took on the mortgage it seemed a million miles away but now here we are
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@Mabeljoe (125)
• Philippines
4 Mar 20
@sprite1950 5 months will be soon. You can breathe well after that. Congratulations for owning a home.
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