God gets the credit?
By Bensen32
@Bensen32 (27612)
United States
April 14, 2020 8:27pm CST
I don’t want to piss anyone off but I have seen three post today about it and I have to finally ask. I mean no disrespect but it is something I have been wanting to ask people for a long time.
So why is it that god always gets the credit but none of the blame?
Lady gets pinned under a car and people run over and lift the car off her and pull her out. Oh thank god for saving her and putting those people there to save her life. God gets the credit for it what about when someone dies, of the driver this and the lady that. Bad breaks on the car but never oh god wasn’t there.
Someone recovers from a sickness. Oh god saved them praise to god. Person dies we blame the doctor, the medication, the lack of either but we don’t blame god for not being there to save them.
Sport star wins the championship, oh thank god for this win. Do the players on the losing side thank god for making them lose? Thanks a lot god for letting us lose.
I guess he only looks down on some of the people and not all the people.
I know I probably just pissed of some of the people with this post and I’m truly sorry if you find this offensive in some way. This is seriously one of many things I think about when I try to understand why some people believe in a god. I seriously try to respect and understand people beliefs in their religion and I try not to offend anyone while I try to ask questions like this.
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@LadyDuck (467869)
• Switzerland
15 Apr 20
So well said and I remember that I asked to one user "why you praise God for the good and do not blame God for hurricanes, diseases, earthquakes...", she replied "that is not God, it's the Devil".
Well if HE takes care of everything, it's both for the good and the bad, but I am not religious.
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@amitkokiladitya (171928)
• Agra, India
15 Apr 20
I understand your questions. I'm a strong believer of God. For me he is the one who is responsible for taking me out of any trouble that I get into. But there have been times earlier when I have questioned my faith and blamed God for not coming out to help. Soon I realised that whatever happened in my life was all predecided by Him. Things did not work my way because my Lord had planned something better for me. But for this, you really need to live a clean life away from all the sins.. God made me realise that it is my deeds that directly affect my life. There isn't any after life. I will bear the good or the bad fruits of my deeds here itself.
I can't carry all the grudge , hatred and keep doing sins and still expect God to work in my favor....That will never happen. When I cleared my conscience, prayed with a clean heart, demanded what was justified and worth the efforts I had put in, I saw he intervened. Not once nor twice but many times..I have had long waits but all that waiting period was full of faith and belief. I left everything on Him and he definitely showed me a way out. He listens for sure, yes he does but only when he feels it is the right time to intervene.
And when His own life ( be it God of any religion) was never free of struggles how can we expect ours to be free of it?
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@amitkokiladitya (171928)
• Agra, India
15 Apr 20
@sharon6345 ok..I respect your feelings..maybe what I have interpretated isn't correct in all forms.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
15 Apr 20
I like your thought process, you seem to have clear thoughts about it.
This line right here....And when His own life ( be it God of any religion) was never free of struggles how can we expect ours to be free of it?
That right there is more explanation and makes more sense to me than I have heard from anyone over the years and that includes Priest of a few different religions.
Thank you.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
15 Apr 20
@sharon6345 It's difficult to get some answers and again, maybe we just aren't open to those answers. I know I often listen to answers about religion and they just don't make sense to me.
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@simone10 (54187)
• Louisville, Kentucky
15 Apr 20
Maybe it has to do with free will? I did wonder though why my sweet dog Bella had to suffer so much when she passed away. Why would God allow this as she was nothing but sweet and loving? It hasn't changed my faith but has made me question God about why.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
15 Apr 20
Those are the ones that maybe make me wonder the most. Alright, many has said free will, that people often cause the issue or they are the ones to do bad so they bring it on themselves. So in your case what did that dog do to have to suffer? Makes no sense to me.
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@CookieMonster46 (13454)
• United States
17 Apr 20
There been times I have heard family say why did God let this happen. We prayed and prayed and still happens. I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. A reason we may not understand , I will never understand why bad things happen.
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@1creekgirl (41152)
• United States
15 Apr 20
I think God welcomes our questions. There's a lot in this life I don't have answers for, but I trust His care for me.
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@kanuck1 (4434)
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15 Apr 20
@1creekgirl You made me think of this passage. Matthew 7:7-8 (KJV) 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
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@andriaperry (116935)
• Anniston, Alabama
15 Apr 20
I do not try to understand, for me its more of a feeling and seeing the results of prayer.
I am not offended, we all chose what to believe in or not.
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@andriaperry (116935)
• Anniston, Alabama
15 Apr 20
@Bensen32 Yes. I feel like we have to go through the bad to receive our reward for having faith. I am living that right now, my life is so good, and in the middle of this covid crap.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
15 Apr 20
@andriaperry Awesome, glad things are going good for you right now. Hope that continues.
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@GardenGerty (159885)
• United States
16 Apr 20
I believe in God, and believe he is present everywhere, but yes, I struggle with the idea prevalent during wars and crises of "God is on our side". God is on his own side. It is up to us to join him. So no, you do not make me angry. People who say "God is bigger than the virus, He will save me!" Yes, He sends people with knowledge and suggests instructions and we silly humans refuse to follow reasonable safety precautions. Sometimes people are hit by disasters, I think God gives them resilience. He does not necessarily magically turn that tornado away to the godless neighbors down the block. Sporting events? I think God is more interested in our individual character and behavior than He is in our team. What you describe seems to me a type of false religion. I may make people mad, myself.
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@kanuck1 (4434)
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22 Apr 20
@Bensen32 Let's say that a hurricane, earthquake or tornado causes a lot of destruction and people are killed. We could ask, did God cause the calamity? Did humans cause the calamity? The answer would be neither did.
Then we could ask why did God not stop it? We could also ask why did humans not build better houses? If we survive, we might thank God that we survived but God did nothing to stop it really.
Right now and since Adam and Eve rebelled against God by wanting to be independent from God, he has more or less allowed to do whatever we want. Sort of like when the teacher would leave the classroom. He has given us a Bible so that we are told how we should behave. He is watching what we do and do not do. He promises to very soon do something to stop the madness and punish the bad and reward the good. This may make sense or it may not make sense!
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
16 Apr 20
Yea, it's hard to give good examples, but I think you all know what I am getting at. What I think I am figuring out by all the comments that have come back on this is that god does the good things and it is humankinds fault for all the bad things.
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@marguicha (220298)
• Chile
15 Apr 20
People need God. So you cannot use logic to understand this.
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@changjiangzhibin89 (16698)
• China
16 Apr 20
Yes, I have been wondering why some always attribute the good deed or success to God,rather than bad things.I guess that it is their habitual tag for some people to say so.
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@changjiangzhibin89 (16698)
• China
17 Apr 20
@Bensen32 Ancient people were clever enough to create a God ,while created satans that carried the can for God.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
17 Apr 20
@changjiangzhibin89 Oh so people created god. hmmm
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@cherriefic (10399)
• Philippines
15 Apr 20
God actually takes a lot of blame more than praises.
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@cherriefic (10399)
• Philippines
16 Apr 20
@Bensen32 I think it also depends on the people around you. From where I'm from, the more religious they are, the more they question God about what's happening in their lives and blaming for their misfortunes.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
16 Apr 20
@cherriefic I suppose that could be. I'm guessing people are not to religious around here compared to other places.
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@WorDazza (15830)
• Manchester, England
16 Apr 20
It was ever thus I'm afraid.
To be fair it is quite entertaining listening to the logical gymnastics people put themselves through trying to answer that one. The best one is that he's somehow teaching us lessons. To me that's a bit like me teaching my daughter to behave by killing my son!
If god loves us all then he often has a very funny way of showing it. And a god that has it in his power to stop the rape and murder of women and children, but chooses to do nothing about, it is not someone I'm prepared to put my faith in.
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@WorDazza (15830)
• Manchester, England
16 Apr 20
@Bensen32 To be honest I find it's best to just accept it for what it is. There's no reasoning with someone who's default response is to just tell you that they don't understand but they trust that god has it all in hand despite the absence of any evidence to suggest that's the case.
At the end of the day if that makes them happy and helps them get through life then they can get on with it as far as I'm concerned. As long as they're not trying to coerce me into believing it as well.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
16 Apr 20
I very much agree with you, the whole well he gave us free will, I'm sorry i can't understand that. Some one say in one sentence that he is an all loving god then tells me that it is free will and the evil of man that let those kids suffer. then you ask how, why did god let this happen and they say well it is not ours to understand why god let these things happen. WHAT??? I'm sorry that just doesn't cut it for me.
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@pjmurphy (2499)
• United States
15 Apr 20
I'm a believer but I don't believe that God either causes or prevents life from happening but is rather there to help us through life as it is and assist us in making the most of it.
The first step in accepting God is accepting that we aren't. I see that failure in both atheists and fundamentalists. I think they have much in common.
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
16 Apr 20
"I am he as he is me". Gives meaning to your question. Credit and blame, when God is given either who is really getting it?
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
17 Apr 20
@Namelesss Ahh, alright. I guess I understand that.
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@mynameiskate (2574)
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15 Apr 20
Most of the time when people say "thank God" are they not really expressing a feeling? It isn't reflective of God actually physically doing something in the world is it? For someone not believing in God's existence I think about the easiest way to understand what is being expressed would be think of how we might say something about our own Mom or Dad. That might be easily relatable providing we had loving parents, sadly not everyone in the world did.
It could be like saying thank goodness I did experience being alive even though not all of life is so great. As for assigning blame I suppose we could get upset with mother earth creating gravity in some cases but then we would not have known life if it wasn't for gravity. There are many different kinds of belief's. I tend to think of God and love together. Not always easily understood or defined but most definitely important in our life.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
15 Apr 20
Fair enough, I do understand sometimes when people say "thank god" it is just being used as a term to say something like oh glad that did or didn't happen and not actually intending to thank god. I'm probably guilt of saying the term before cause it is just a popular saying.
I'm talking about the ones that are actually saying it and meaning GOD.
Believe me I try to understand where people are coming from and why it is they believe what they do. I think it is one of the most interesting conversations to have as long as no one is getting offended or hurt over the conversation.
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@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
16 Apr 20
@mynameiskate Well, if we say life has no purpose or little purpose for anything without a god then isn't the purpose with god to die as soon as possible to get to heaven and live eternity in bliss? Then why do so many not want to die?
I love a good honest respectful conversation about many subjects and this (religion) is one I really enjoy. I think you learn a lot about people and how they think and what makes them who they are.
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@mynameiskate (2574)
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16 Apr 20
@Bensen32 True it is a popular expression and often doesn't mean much. People can actually believe in intervention. I do as well but will not accept that every good outcome or poor outcome is a result of it. I'm more inclined to think it is what it is but also without God there isn't much purpose for anything. So thank God. It is like saying without my family, without love, without a heart, it just doesn't feel like it is worth much.
The metaphysical can exist without believing in God so there is the common ground?
Honest conversations are never hurtful. Understanding the others viewpoint and where the personal connections are is the key?
Is the best way to understand people and what they do or do not believe in is to watch and relate to the movie avatar with an open mind? In that story, it is easy to understand the humans thinking that the deity was a just hoax and easy to understand the thinking of the inhabitants of pandora.
You can be somewhere without being connected.
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@averygirl72 (37845)
• Philippines
16 Apr 20
You mean you don't trust God because He allows negatives to happen in some people? I have doubts too about God because I search for Him yet He does not seem to help. But I have no other choice who is the most powerful on the Universe nothing else but God. All l need is to mature in faith and keep trusting even when things does not make sense
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@averygirl72 (37845)
• Philippines
17 Apr 20
@Bensen32 I think many people are actually blaming God when things go bad. Some believe it's the wrath of God
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@cmoneyspinner (9219)
• Austin, Texas
16 Apr 20
Uumm ... I'm not sure what conversations you've been listening to. But I hear just as many people blaming God for bad stuff as there are people giving God credit for good stuff. To me, the blame and credit kind of evens out.
I don't know if this is the real reason WHY ... but the reality is there are a lot of things in this world people just can't explain. BUT THEY WANT AN ANSWER!!
So! Well! Since nobody can see God ... blame Him when something goes wrong. Especially when you can't find anybody else to blame.
Think about it. For all the times you've heard people blaming God for horrible things, when did you ever hear a voice from heaven saying: "YO! It wasn't ME!"
By contrast, people give God credit when things go right because ... you know ... they want to be be humble. You don't want to say you did it all by yourself. Especially when whatever it was that happened turned out just fine ... even though you know you stumbled through the dark, walk off a cliff, and managed to land on your feet! When the lights came back, everybody's cheering: "Yay! Yay! Hero! Hero!" And in your mind you're thinking 'But?? It wasn't me! I didn't know what I was doing! 
' So you go "I just think we all ought to Thank the Lord!"
' So you go "I just think we all ought to Thank the Lord!" 2 people like this
@Bensen32 (27612)
• United States
17 Apr 20
Believe me I know that there are people out there that blame god when things go wrong but I hear a lot more people giving credit than blaming. Maybe that is just my personal experience.
I would like to hear a booming voice from the sky yell, yo it wasn't me....maybe then I would believe
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@thelme55 (76645)
• Germany
16 Apr 20
That is a good question. I have not thought about it. When something good happens to my life and to others, I just say thank you to God. It is how I was brought up. To thank God for the blessings that I receive from whoever comes from. Of course, I give thanks to those people too who share their blessings to me.
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@Fa_Maverick (9485)
• Australia
29 Apr 20
There is always going to be someone offended by something it's 2020. I had this peev too but hey people believe what they believe and say what they say. But maybe instead of getting hung up on who saved who god or humans we can just be happy that they were saved. Can guarantee when a surgeon is addressing a family and they're like "thank god" they arent offended they're just glad that they didn't die on their table. If they get offended they shouldn't be a surgeon
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