Shouldn't there be more money for proven drugs against diseases by Covid-19

@Flakes (42)
Netherlands
July 12, 2020 5:28am CST
For example, Conestat Alfa also known as Ruconest. Tested on five patients, 4 of whom were discharged from the hospital within 48 hours and the fifth 1 day later. And so the patients did not end up in IC. Now it seems more like something is done in the hope that something will come out. A vaccine is still a long way away so it is better to focus on the conditions such as the blood thinners.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
12 Jul 20
Since when did 5 cases of treatment which happened to be 'successful' prove anything at all?
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
12 Jul 20
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• Germany
13 Jul 20
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@Babale (1866)
• Semarang, Indonesia
13 Jul 20
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
12 Jul 20
Thank you for the welcome and the Guideline Rules. I will read them very carefully. Mylot is a good platform to start a discussion and see how others think about it.
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@LadyDuck (470823)
• Switzerland
13 Jul 20
I know about this test because it was conducted here in Switzerland at the University Hospital Basel. One patient had increased oxygen requirement and had to be transferred to the ICU for intubation, so it is not so safe as you see.
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@LadyDuck (470823)
• Switzerland
13 Jul 20
@Flakes What for the moment is NOT at all sure if the treatment really worked or the patient recovered by himself as other did without the help of the medication.
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
13 Jul 20
I am not going to defend the treatment because I have no further interest in it, but the fifth patient had visibly recovered after the treatment and has been oxygenated for some time after which he was discharged. So the treatment has certainly been useful
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
13 Jul 20
@LadyDuck I have no idea if and how much money goes to the Swiss pharma companies. As far as I know, the most money goes to the procurement of a possible vaccine. The permission for the phase 2 study with 120 patients has been requested in Basel and has already been approved. Applications for the other countries in North and South America are still pending approval Estimated Study Start Date Aug 2020 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04414631
https://www.swissethics.ch/covid-19/approved-projects
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
12 Jul 20
From my reading a vaccine is not ever likely to happen. If they could really vaccinate against this virus they would have done so years ago. After all it is a corona virus all be it a novel one. I've no doubt there are simple and inexpensive treatments that work just fine but none of them are likely to go far. The benefactors want something they can bank on.
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@Namelesss (3365)
• United States
12 Jul 20
@Flakes It's always about power and/or money. But we'll see.
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
12 Jul 20
I agree with you in part, I believe that there will be a vaccine, the only question is when and that will be a matter of time. They were already well on their way with a vaccine against Sars-1 only that virus disappeared gradually. You mean that the benefactors spend for total package and not for intermediate solutions?
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
13 Jul 20
@Namelesss Yes indeed, for example, the billions for research into vaccines and medicines do not go to biotech companies in the Netherlands. Most of the money is used to purchase vaccines. Only a small part is available for research. But that money must also be shared with hospitals and universities. Is this recognizable or is it regulated differently in the United States?
• Agra, India
12 Jul 20
I hope to hear some good news in all the parts of the world very soon
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• Agra, India
12 Jul 20
@Flakes all I want is that we get back our old fearless life
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
12 Jul 20
@amitkokiladitya Yes we all want that, I hope you're going to be right.
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
12 Jul 20
It is true that it may pass quickly, but I am afraid that we will have to live with this for a while.
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12 Jul 20
What will blood thinners do for seriously infected patients?
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
12 Jul 20
The main problem is that blood clots form, with blood thinners slowing your clotting of the blood, which can improve the patients' chances of survival.
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12 Jul 20
@Flakes Thanks for explaining. I read something about this problem occurring with some patients. Has to do with an overactive reaction to the virus I suspect. One nasty bug.
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
12 Jul 20
@mynameiskate It is a virus that you hardly recognize on the outside, so your awareness of the virus is minimal and that is the treacherous one. But hope they find something quickly and that the money ends up in the right place to speed up the process of developing a vaccine
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@nawala123 (20871)
• Indonesia
13 Jul 20
my country has more than 900k corona sample and still goes on
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
13 Jul 20
Yes the situation in Indonesia is very bad, the virus has spread to all provinces of the country. I hope that the figures will drop soon. Take care and stay safe.
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@nawala123 (20871)
• Indonesia
13 Jul 20
@Flakes yeah, it is gone too far
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@Babale (1866)
• Semarang, Indonesia
13 Jul 20
It is impossible to find an antidote in the near future, because this seems like a biological weapon that was deliberately released by certain parties.
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@Flakes (42)
• Netherlands
13 Jul 20
I don't believe in conspiracy theories, but it is now clear that one should stop selling and consuming wild animal meat. You now see in the Netherlands that all mink farms are cleared due to contamination risk. Other countries should take an example of this.
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