I learned something about snow from DE
By vanny
@vandana7 (100603)
India
January 8, 2021 12:17pm CST
I have never lived in snow laden world.
So I have a lot of questions about it.
DE and I had a row a few days ago, which is not an uncommon thing between us. There have been more serious precedents. I wished him happy new year but the Sulk Master has not wished me back. SO FAR.
I think he deliberately fights with me to improve upon his fighting skills.
Anyway, when he cooled off - he sent a few pictures of his road. The trees had snow and the road was pretty much the kinda roads we have in the city outskirts.
The funny part was the road had no snow on it. DE said the heat on the road prevents the snow remaining on it.
Now Vanny had her next question ready... if it is snowing how can the road be hot?
Nope, not gonna ask ... well, I want to ask...but it does seem a dumb question, right?
I presume when it is snowing temperature falls all around. So how does the road remain slightly warmer.
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@arunima25 (87854)
• Bangalore, India
8 Jan 21
I have stayed in Chicago and Longmont, Colorado. Both places had snow and heavy snowfall on days. They cover roads too but then roads warm up faster when sun is out. Also I saw trucks clearing these snow from roads to make it clear.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
8 Jan 21
@arunima25 No way...that would be World War III. The point is, I tend to joke some, and these people may try to make a fool of me. I have to be prepared for that.
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@arunima25 (87854)
• Bangalore, India
8 Jan 21
@vandana7 
And that would be fun for others to watch as third person.
Why don't you tag him.? He should not miss it.
And that would be fun for others to watch as third person.
Why don't you tag him.? He should not miss it.4 people like this
@shaggin (72247)
• United States
10 Jan 21
I’m not sure about where DaddyEvil lives but here in Northeast Pa the roads gets covered just like the trees, sidewalks, houses, yards etc and once it’s there unless it gets warmer it doesn’t melt off. They come along with plow trucks and plow the roads and dump calcium chloride on it I believe it’s called to melt the snow on the roads. In neighboring NY they use rock salt on their roads to melt the snow and ice. Their roads are much clearer to drive on then our PA roads but their vehicles rust out really bad from it. Due to that they are allowed rust on their vehicles but we cannot have that here in PA which stinks as so many of us drive to Ny for groceries or work.
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@shaggin (72247)
• United States
13 Jan 21
@vandana7 well our homes don’t get buried in snow so the igloo effect wouldn’t apply. It’s just around the ground and on the roofs. We have a town sewer here but not like you see in movies in cities where people can climb down and walk through them. We just have an underground pipe that carriers the waste a mile over town to the sewer plant. Anyone who lives more then 2 miles from the sewer plant can’t be hooked up to it so they have septic systems in their yards. I’m thankful to have the sewer system I’m hooked to so I never have to worry about the septic system backing up.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
13 Jan 21
DE lives in Missouri. And many people here said roads remain free of snow. SMH. I guess temperature varies and the quantum of snow too. So rock salt and calcium chloride melt snow? And rock salt rusts vehicles? Wow there is so much to learn. I did hear that you all put salt on roads. So DE seemed to be trying to fool me. I also presumed it would be the daily salt. Anyway, rock salt and eating salt, there isn't much difference. Do you all have underground sewers? Does the water dry in them? I also wonder why you all do not enjoy igloo effect. After all, your homes are completely covered with snow.
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@ShyBear88 (59347)
• Sterling, Virginia
8 Jan 21
Well the ground can stay warm for days even in the summer so if the outside temp is more 30 degrees then top ground is still going to be pretty warm. Once outside is below 30 degree it can be ice or snow will collect. The longer the days go with supper low temps the easier it is for snow to stick other wise then that the roads would be warm. Black concrete take heat that why in the summer it’s super hot compared to the outside temp and you can see heat rising from it.
Any other snow questions?
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
8 Jan 21
Yeah... I asked Lori that, she has not replied. Kinda, you all use heating inside. So your roofs should be warm too. But snow does gather on your roofs, right? Why so?
Another question, isn't snow heavy on the roof? And when it is melting, does it feel like fountain falling from roof edges?
Do sheets of ice on the roof fall dangerously on people or vehicle when they are melting?
You don't want to answer such stuff I think. But honestly these are my doubts, and I do exhaust patience. I will understand if you don't want to answer.
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@ShyBear88 (59347)
• Sterling, Virginia
8 Jan 21
@vandana7 roofs are not heated or cooled. Hearts ans ac are runners through vents. There is installation in the walls that helps hold heat or the cold when heater or ac are on. But the outside of the outside the houses an buildings are not.
Second question is yes snow can be heavy but only when it builds up for a certain amount of time. This is why most living roofs are slanted down wards it helps the snow run down to what we call gutters the gutters collect the snow once it melts to water again. Flat roofs are typical made of concert or heavy tin so then the snow pulling it will damage it. Over time in general like 10 years or more roofs need to be re done but that it typically with aging. Car need extreme heaviness to break it like a tree or something. Snow it would take tones of snow to hurt a car.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
9 Jan 21
@ShyBear88 1. Why you all use winter gloves that do not fully cover your fingers.
2. The snow when it turns into ice, does it release some heat? Does it feel more cold when its snowing or when it is turning into ice sheets.
@DaddyEvil (137602)
• United States
18 Jan 21
She didn't even tell people the best part of our conversation about snow, pony!
I showed her this photo, as well. She ask me why I had square holes in my yard... did we 
poop in them? I was laughing so hard I almost couldn't explain about the snow melting off the concrete pads! *still grinning about this*4 people like this
@just4him (317238)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
9 Jan 21
In summer the roads heat up to high temperatures. When winter arrives, the heat from summer is still in the concrete melting the snow on contact. As the days of winter increase, the heat from summer diminishes and snow remains on the roads and needs to be cleared by snowplows.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
10 Jan 21
@just4him Doesn't higher elevation mean proximity to sun's rays? Then they should be warmer. Everything about what they taught in the school is being trashed on myLot. I expected Alaska to be cold throughout the year. Turns out it has summers. Expected you all not to have snow. But you all have snow even in Texas.
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@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
18 Jan 21
Is there some reason Sulk Master has not replied to you? 
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@wolfgirl569 (108182)
• Marion, Ohio
9 Jan 21
The pavement holds the heat longer. But the opposite is true also. Once the pavement does get cold it takes longer to warm up unless the sun is out good.
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@wolfgirl569 (108182)
• Marion, Ohio
9 Jan 21
@vandana7 In Ohio here it can vary a lot. We have had winters where it was snow covered for at least 3 months. Other winters like this one so far only a couple of days of snow cover.
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@crazyhorseladycx (39509)
• United States
13 Jan 21
depends'n the grounds temperature. here we'd finally a snow, the roads melted quickly, but there's still some snow 'pon the ground. roads're 'lso traveled, some quite heavily. 'n then there's snow plows fer when 't snows serious 'n the temps remain most frigid.
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@crazyhorseladycx (39509)
• United States
14 Jan 21
@vandana7 no ma'am, 'tis not the norm'n many southern states.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
13 Jan 21
From the automobile traffic driving over it @vandana7 . Plus cement or tar roads collect heat from the sun melting the snow quicker
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
14 Jan 21
@vandana7 Nope. Most are wood. There are a few built with bricks.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
18 Jan 21
@nanette64 We hardly have any house built with wood. Interiors yes, exterior is essentially cement and brick.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
13 Jan 21
From the automobile traffic driving over it @vandana7 . Plus cement or tar roads collect heat from the sun melting the snow quicker
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
9 Jan 21
Hmmm...interesting. Makes me get more doubts though. LOL. So here is a hot vessel, out in the snow. The snow is falling due to gravity and melting almost immediately. It is flowing to the sides as water would. There it would freeze because of colder parts. That part should be getting double quota of snow, the original 2 inches, plus the water that is coming in and freezing. Since water cannot climb snow to form snow, it should be back on the road. I need to experiment this.
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@GooglePlus (3830)
•
8 Jan 21
There are so 3-4 reasons I can think of
1) Roads are black in color hence they absorb more energy than any other color. hence there will be a temperature difference.
2) It may be due to the flat surface, snow doesn't get anything to hold it there like bushes where they have something for more frictions.
3) Since we have vehicle running on roads, it also generates heat and of course there is friction and that might help to melt the snow.
4) They put salt to melt it as well.
Of course it depends upon what was the temperature before it started snowing. If you see it is snowing for over 2-3 days, then you will see snow accumulated on roads as well.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
9 Jan 21
1. In the day time, yes. In the night time, when the atmosphere is cooler, the road / sea must be radiating back the energy to arrive at equal temperature as its surroundings.
2. Snow does hang around even on cars which have smooth surface.
3. That is acceptable. Friction on the road. But is it as much? Considering the population in their world.
4. Salt ..I heard. But it leads me to another doubt. How do ice bergs survive in the sea then. After all, sea water is salty.
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@Torunn (8607)
• Norway
8 Jan 21
Right now most of the trees, gardens, roofs etc are white but the streets are clear. Here it's because it's not snow, but frost.
There's some snow up in the forest, but also there a lot of frost. It's humid but cold, so everything get covered with ice.
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@Torunn (8607)
• Norway
10 Jan 21
@vandana7 And now we have frost and snow, 'cause it has snowed on top of the frost. And some places on top of ice, that's really annoying 'cause you don't see whether it's slippery or not.
Quite different climates can be challenging, I remember walking off the plane in Bangkok and thinking "How am I going to survive this?"
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@LindaOHio (181717)
• United States
9 Jan 21
If the road is asphalt the black color will absorb the sun's heat much faster. Sometimes the friction of the tires on the road will keep the road free of snow (as long as it's not too cold).
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