The Evisceration of Roe: The Elimination of the Right to Privacy

Roe, abortion, privacy rights
United States
May 5, 2022 12:34pm CST
Media outlets term the evisceration of personal rights as “culture wars.” The term is a misnomer. When a small number of people grab power and then begin removing individual rights, it is an assault on an individual's privacy. For those who are "pro-life", such an assault may be acceptable. The price to pay may be minimal in their eyes. But make no mistake, the legal reasoning used by Alito in the leaked opinion draft should scare everyone. Alito hangs his opinion on the view that since the Constitution does not explicitly provide for the right, the right is not "deeply rooted" in the nation's history and traditions, that there is no such protected right to privacy. Under this logic, other rights will likely fall. Roe was based on Griswald which protected the right to contraception as a privacy right. Imagine a world where your daughters and granddaughters can neither get an abortion or the contraception needed to prevent an abortion. Such, the religious right is not gunning for it--yet. But they will. The right to marry whom you choose--regardless of skin color, race, or creed. The right to same-sex marriage. The right not to be sterilized if you are mentally ill. The right to have sex with a consenting partner of your choice, in the manner you two choose to do so. All of these are based, in whole or part, on the right to privacy. A Supreme Court decision that would criminalize abortion, eviscerating the ambit of privacy and personal autonomy afforded by the 14th Amendment, would expand governmental power into every nook and cranny of life — from a doctor’s office in Texas treating a transgender child, to intimate relations in a bedroom in Georgia, to a pharmacy counter in Ohio. Will government dictate a set of views that have not had majority support for decades? For many anti-abortionists, religiosity lies at the heart of their belief. The right-wing justices and their supporters appear ready to reject one of the Founders’ core principles: that religion shall not be imposed by government edict. Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), the head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, has stated: “The nuclear family is crucial to civilization, it is God’s design for humanity, and it must be protected and celebrated." Allowing the religious right to impose their religious beliefs on others is in direct contravention with the fundamental core of the Constitution which separates church and state for a reason--. for this reason, among others. This is about appropriating state power to enforce theocratically driven positions. The question boils down to whether the government will diminish individual rights (e.g., a rape victim’s access to abortion) and supplant decision-making on matters, such as health care, that individuals and families jealously guard. It wasn’t so long ago that “conservatives” stood for the proposition that government, especially the federal government, should not control the totality of traditions, habits and other decisions made in civil society. When the right to privacy is attacked, we may face a future where the government can interfere with their personal decisions. Not just women. Anyone. And while I am sure that sooner or later we will get to the bottom of why 55 men drafting a document failed to mention a right to abortion, in the meantime, four men and 1 woman will affect the lives of millions of women in this country. Roe is the tip of the iceberg. Then contraception Then sex Then marriage Then sterilization Without agency over our own bodies, there is no equal protection for women under the law. None. Women will die. We refuse to go back to the back alley abortions of the past. We refuse to allow lawmakers to take away our agency. We will not go back Not now. Not ever.
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@LindaOHio (181320)
• United States
6 May 22
I am pro-life; but I am against a woman having to have an abortion under sketchy and dangerous situations.
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• United States
6 May 22
When abortion isn't legal, the procedure gets to be much more dangerous for everyone.
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@LindaOHio (181320)
• United States
7 May 22
@divalounger Exactly.
@RebeccasFarm (90294)
• Arvada, Colorado
6 May 22
I do not believe this is going to come to pass. I could be wrong.
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• United States
6 May 22
I don't think it will pass quickly, but eventually, it will--all things pass.
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• Arvada, Colorado
6 May 22
@divalounger maybe so
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@snowy22315 (181986)
• United States
6 May 22
It's truly frightening.
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• United States
6 May 22
I agree--
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
5 May 22
I am not a citizen of the US. But it seems to me that this is the opposite to the so talked of "the land of the free". I also wonder at the easy way that Sen Scott talks to God. He seems to know exactly what God thinks.
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
5 May 22
@divalounger Some people there seem incredible primitive.
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• United States
5 May 22
I think that Scott thinks he knows what God thinks--the arrogance of the man is astounding!
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• United States
5 May 22
Don't let it distract you from the fact that the unborn child has a heartbeat at five weeks after conception. Abortion, termination or whatever you want to call it, it's taking life. Killing. Cutting apart arms and legs and heads and torsos then removing them. An unborn child is only a child depending on the mother's opinion. It's not life if the woman wants to abort but if the same woman is killed by another the killer is charged with two counts of murder. I would say that termination should be allowed up until 15 weeks after conception but after that, it should only be allowed if carrying to term puts lives at risk. The definition of "life" shouldn't be based upon the opinion or feelings of the woman carrying the child. I hear words like viable used to determine what constitutes life but let's be honest here, like a sunflower pulled from the earth, it will not survive if you physically remove it. I think you're reading too much into what might happen. The SC isn't considering making it illegal, they are throwing it back to the individual states to decide the issue. Some states will restrict abortion, some will not. You may have to travel to a neighboring state to have the procedure but no one has mentioned banning abortions. You have mentioned so many what ifs that aren't really related to Roe V Wade here. It clouds what the opinion, if it's accurate and implemented, is really about. The Constitutional Right to take the life of an unborn child.
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• United States
5 May 22
Make no mistake, the GOP will try to push through a national ban--and my point on these other instances is that they are all related to the right to privacy. If the court eliminates the right to privacy, these others will all follow as they all have the same constitutional underpinnings--
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• United States
6 May 22
@Vikingswest1 granted this is a draft opinion. However, it does indicate that the vote has been taken and the task of writing an opinion assigned to one of the majority justice--so it is more than speculation. What we don't know is how much it will scale the right back--and I think the intrusion lies in the withdrawal of a constitutional right. I don't believe in a "nanny state"--nor do I believe that my anger at the probably overturning of Roe, and its progeny is unjustified--for far too long, men in power have been regulating and controlling women's bodies-- While you believe that checks and balances will even things out, I don't hold your same belief. The criminalization of abortion is where we are headed. And complacency will only hasten that end.
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• United States
5 May 22
@divalounger The far right isn't that powerful. You can't put all the worms back in the can. The GOP can only make changes in states they control. If attempts are made to restrict constituents in that manner, they won't control that state for long. Do you seriously expect intrusions on everything else? I don't. Until this SC comment is official, it's all just speculation. You seem to think only of a worst case scenario where government becomes a nanny state. The checks and balances will even things out. If a far right or left person pushes to the point of intrusion, they are less likely to be reelected.
@porwest (92463)
• United States
16 Jun 22
What about the right of the unborn child? Why is that never a part of the discussion? As for Roe v. Wade, even though I am pro-life, I generally support it. However, it is important to note that the overturning of Roe v. Wade does NOT ban abortions, it simply returns the decision on the laws regarding abortions back to the states. That COULD mean some states would ban them, yes. But it does not implicitly deny abortions. I also support states being able to decide what their abortion laws will be and should be, and ultimately it's up to the voters to make appropriate electoral decisions when they vote for candidates that align with their personal desires and interests. Regardless of what the courts decide or our elected officials decide, our country is still a democratic republic, meaning the voters can vote for people who believe in the same things they do, but must also accept that when officials DO make a decision, having been duly elected to their positions, the will of the MAJORITY voter is still being respected. That is the way a democratic republic works. The opposite is dictatorship, and it is NOT dictatorship simply because a decision is made that does not go along with what you want. If the MAJORITY gets their wish, that is actually the way it is supposed to work.
• United States
16 Jun 22
When the effect of a law is to effectively deny women access to reproductive health, including abortion--it acts as a ban--I expect that roughly half of the states post-Roe will severely restrict or ban abortion. And women will die as a result. There are no easy answers here. Attaching the concept of personhood to an unviable fetus can and may result in the prosecution and jailing of mothers -- Giving a person the right to choose does not imply that that person will choose an abortion--it only allows a person to make that choice for themselves. Taking that choice away imposes the will of another or group of persons over that woman. I suspect that if the shoe were on the other foot, men would not and will not allow anyone to impose vasectomy--which is reversible--on them-- As a result, this issue has affected and will continue to affect women most. And in terms of your argument regarding the majority--I would remind you that the majority of people in the US favor some form of the right to abortion --
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
5 May 22
yes and where does it stop? We will soon be under Nazi Germany like laws.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
5 May 22
• United States
5 May 22
Certainly we are headed for a theocratic state if something isn't done.
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@xander6464 (44387)
• Wapello, Iowa
5 May 22
I really hope this is the straw that finally breaks the camel's back and provides with sane competent leadership.
• United States
5 May 22
We could all use some sane leadership--
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@xander6464 (44387)
• Wapello, Iowa
8 May 22
@divalounger The saner the better.
@db20747 (43440)
• Washington, District Of Columbia
5 May 22
The constitution grants right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!! The government should value all life enough to pay and financially support each one well. Too many abortions take place. They should pay 1 million to save, not a dime to kill it.
• United States
5 May 22
The trend here is to save the life of the fetus but not allow any funding to help care for the mother and the child--it is considered welfare and lord knows, we can't have that
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• United States
5 May 22
@db20747 I don't think that will ever happen in the U.S., but it would certainly help.
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@db20747 (43440)
• Washington, District Of Columbia
5 May 22
@divalounger yes, Congress must expand bread for people!