About Hindu gods...
By vanny
@vandana7 (100604)
India
April 16, 2023 12:34pm CST
So ..this insurance agent is a Christian guy, who is considerably fairer than I.
Still a brownie though. LOL
So we got talking .. my cell phone wallpaper ... I had recently changed.
So ..he asked, why is it that all statues in temples are made of marble or fair.
Few dark statues of gods are there, but they are covered with expensive jewelry and clothing. This naturally takes the attention away from the fact that the god is dark.
Even the dark goddesses are either over decked with jewelry or their faces are completely painted with turmeric and vermilion.
He just asked why because the Saibaba photo in my cell phone happened to be marble statue, and it is no secret that Saibaba was not exactly as white as marble..fairly dark though may have been fairer than I.
And came final attack....is it inferiority about the race?
I don't know why this is so. I never questioned it. Would I have bent my head at the feet of a dark Saibaba? I think so. Because it is the moral support I get from the saint.
So this question triggered another question.
Why is it that our gods are clean shaven, and almost feminine to look at?
I am sure they did not get Gillette shaving cream and the blades or other electric razors in those days.
Why is the masculine appearance of gods so objectionable to Hindus?
Even Lord Shiva ..does not sport a beard or mustache...
Does it not follow that as Hindus, we should not have beard or mustache?
Series of doubts only about our god's statues.
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15 responses
@RebeccasFarm (90474)
• Arvada, Colorado
16 Apr 23
Hmm that is true ...I wonder who designed them that way.
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@DaddyEvil (137602)
• United States
16 Apr 23
If I worshipped gods, I don't think I would care if they were dark or light skinned... They'd still be gods, right?
Worrying about skin color has never made sense to me. We're all born with the color we're born with and nothing can change that.
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@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
17 Apr 23
@DaddyEvil It's more difficult to acquire a lighter skin, but there are ways for that too. As an Indian I can reach both shades naturally... we get darker (not red) and we get fairer (skin, not makeup). It's lovely as long as it's not an obsession.
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@celticeagle (168334)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Apr 23
Maybe it is the culture and how they perceive their Gods and holy people. Having a beard might make them look unkept and not well-kept like people who worship them would want them to look. It is after all a holy person.
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@celticeagle (168334)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Apr 23
@vandana7 ...........These seem to be a sign of masculinity. Maybe one verifies the other.
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@vandana7 (100604)
• India
19 Apr 23
If that were so, why is it that our priests and supposedly saints or sadhus have long hair and long beards......... you alone my dear got to the level I was looking at.
I wanted Indians to realize that there is something fishy about those priests whom they worship or pay respects to ...if such priests have beards and mustache ....and long hair...in all probability there is a criminal behind that......as has been noticed several times.
That should apply to even politicos who say they support the religion but have beards and mustaches...
That should also apply to street gangsters who keep twisting their mustaches as a sign of masculinity...
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@RasmaSandra (80783)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
16 Apr 23
Something to consider I never looked at it this way. I should think the god themselves should be considered and not skin color or anything else like that,
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@JudyEv (342176)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Apr 23
We were quite surprised to find people that really wanted to have fairer skin and they would go to a lot of trouble to stay out of the sun and avoid getting darker. It was like racism in reverse. Very strange. Also strange about the lack of beards.
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@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
17 Apr 23
Glad that I have a discussion to reply to Doesn't mean I am going to answer all (or any) questions in the post...
The marble statues indeed might have something to do with inferiority complex. We should check how long that has been happening :) Am not much of a temple-visiting type so cannot confirm the veracity... but the claim looks a valid one.
In older times, statues were carved of stones, and as we know most stones have darker hues. Do we see marble statues in the caves?
Coming to hiding the dark gods and goddesses as much as possible, I don't agree with the observation and the deduction. Excess of jewelry and clothing is more common in South India mainly because kings there liked to see and donate gold. Even the temples are covered with that. And for one thing, glittering gold and colorful clothes shine more on darker skin - which isn't always a pleasant view.
Turmeric and vermillion observation is interesting. The only god I can recall painted with vermillion has a story explaining that. I have seen more humans painted with turmeric than I have seen gods, and I have witnessed only couple of marriage ceremonies!
Saibaba is not a Hindu god, he was a saint. I don't know what color he was Maybe some people feel marble looks pious (inferiority...?) just like gold is considered pious (another major reason for all that excessive jewelry).
There is only one god I can recall who is always clean shaven. He is also the one who has to take a lot of forms (including Mohini, the most beautiful woman), facial hair might come in the way of the craft! All other gods routinely appear shaven, bearded and/or mustached. They all look great.
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@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
17 Apr 23
@vandana7 If you want to see an incarnation of Lord Vishnu, you will not find much....
I couldn't remember where I had seen Lord Shiva's statue with mustache so I searched. Apparently, there is a temple in Chennai where you can find Shri Ram with mustache.
[I don't like writing Lord... will think of better word next time.]
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Lord-Shiva-and-Lord-Vishnu-not-grow-moustaches-they-would-be-more-beautiful-if-they-had-it
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@vandana7 (100604)
• India
17 Apr 23
@hora_fugit But most of the statues of Shiva and Ram and Krishna do not have either mustache or beard. And the effeminate features of round face with less pronounced cheek bones are common too.
Hopefully, the statue of Ram being installed in Ayodhya will be realistic.
A stray case is a stray case...LOL. The famous Ram Darbar picture with Ramji, Sitaji, Lakshmanji and Hanumanji.......... all look so alike...with Ramji being slightly taller. Eyes, nose, mouth.......
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@vandana7 (100604)
• India
17 Apr 23
Honestly, out here, many goddesses have their faces and bodies completely painted with turmeric mixed with little vermilion.
Saibaba was dark...There are a few genuine images of him. The one in which he is leaning is true image, and likewise, there is another of him sitting...on the floor.
Now, it is difficult to make out the exact shade in black and white pictures. But he definitely was not fair.
I haven't seen Shri Ramji with beard...nor lord Shiva. Where do they have deities with beards and mustaches...
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@snowy22315 (182204)
• United States
16 Apr 23
Hmm, maybe some of your fellow Indians have some thoughts on that.
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@vandana7 (100604)
• India
19 Apr 23
I often wondered if we do not attribute our desires on gods...who may just have been human beings. We kinda exaggerate their powers so that we remain focused on what we want the society to do...
That said, I feel I have been receiving help from gods periodically whenever I have asked. And I ask too often. That seemed a tad odd...too many coincidences? But since they are happy coincidences, I will take them with both hands, and learn to accept other times as god's will to give me something better. I am therefore a believer, and when I think of god, unfortunately, it is white statues.
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@vandana7 (100604)
• India
20 Apr 23
@rebelann I feel the same. But when I think like that, I feel even they have loved ones watching them and taking care of them, and they have more people because theirs was and is larger family and more people have gone away in their family than mine.
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@vandana7 (100604)
• India
19 Apr 23
I was just thinking...if Jewish people don't have blue eyes, and if Adolf Hitler too did not have blue eyes, then possibility of Hitler having Jewish blood exists....the thought is amusing...someday they might have traced his ancestry and dumped him in the very concentration camps that he created for jews...
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@LadyDuck (472078)
• Switzerland
19 Apr 23
@vandana7 There are Jewish people with blue eyes, we have a Jewish friend who has blue eyes, this does not mean that it is common. Historians believe that Hitler had Jewish and African ancestors... we all HAVE because the first men on heart all come from that area of the world.
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@wolfgirl569 (108196)
• Marion, Ohio
17 Apr 23
As for color I would say it depends on what was used for the statue. Can't help with the facial hair
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@Daljinder (23236)
• Bangalore, India
7 Jun 23
The coloring question I don't agree with coz I have seen idols made from different colors and materials. Don't forget that Vishnu and his avatars are all blue. I have seen red, orange, black, and yellow.
However, the beard and mustache do seem to be missing. Even body hairs are missing.
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@LindaOHio (181821)
• United States
26 Apr 23
Statues and paintings are only someone's opinion of what the God or gods look like. No one really knows, do they?
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