First In, Last Out

@porwest (85968)
United States
January 21, 2024 8:16am CST
It used to be almost a rule back in the day if you were a manager. You were first in and last out. Period. You don't own the business, and your job is to manage the process, direct the flow, and deal with any issues. It is never the responsibility of the employee to make certain decisions, and so the manager MUST be present in order to make them. These days it seems more and more that I hear about managers who sort of come and go as they please, expecting employees to make decisions and deal with issues that SHOULD be the responsibility of the manager. My last boss was this way actually. And part of the reason I decided to quit when I did is BECAUSE I was forced into a situation to deal with because he was not there to do his job. In fact, I was forced to do HIS job, and it put MY job in peril. When you are a manager, you are not a king. You do not own the business. You are to be there at all times when any employee is in the building. THAT'S your job. That's why you have the position and the compensation that goes along with it. When I was in management, I was there at least one hour before the crew arrived and there at least one or two hours after the last employee left. That was not what I WANTED to do. That was my JOB and what I was PAID to do. You cannot manage people, processes or issues if you are not there. And you cannot hold employees accountable for decisions they make on your behalf if you are not there to make them. If you cannot do what a manager is supposed to do, you deserve neither the title nor the position.
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@moffittjc (120997)
• Gainesville, Florida
21 Jan
I was a good, hard-working manager in my career, but I did delegate authority to people I could trust. But I didn't do it blindly, I gave them the tools and resources and training to effectively handle those responsibilities. And I always told them that if they ever felt uncomfortable, or needed help, I was always one phone call or email away. And to also ease their nerves, I always told them I would support their decisions--right or wrong--as long as they could justify why they made them, and could demonstrate that the decisions were not immoral, illegal or unethical. But at the end of the day, I took accountability for everything that happened under me. One of the things I always said was, "If things go right, give all the credit to my staff; if things go wrong, place all the blame on me."
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@porwest (85968)
• United States
9 Feb
That is what a good manager is supposed to do. Foster and guide his people. Delegate tasks and authority to entrusted people. Offer growth opportunities through training and development and offer them opportunities to advance. Be there not as a boss, but as a support network. You touched on something else as well which I think is important, and that's to accept responsibility when things go wrong that even if the onus MAY fall below you, ultimately it's your job to foster a crew that does their job well and effectively, and so if someone below you fails, really it's your failure to own and then you have to make decisions about what to do about it. Fire someone or offer someone more training and guidance.
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@porwest (85968)
• United States
13 Feb
@moffittjc One key thing is that one must have the ability to honestly self-evaluate. You can get through to a person like that. One who can never accept some blame are unreachable.
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@porwest (85968)
• United States
17 Feb
@moffittjc At the same time, I can't help the clueless, and I gave up trying long ago.
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@LindaOHio (171927)
• United States
22 Jan
I worked for a guy who was a poor excuse for a manager. We used to work until 7 or so every night during the winter season; but he always went home at quitting time. Have a good week.
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@LindaOHio (171927)
• United States
23 Jan
@porwest He also cheated me out of his job. I was trained and had 3 years more college that the woman he chose. Long story; but she used to go in his office and close the door and sit there and giggle and joke around with him. She started being really mean to me; and they eventually drove me out. Lot more involved; but I won't bore you. He was really a poor excuse for a manager. I used to write memos for him; and the other facilities would praise him on his rendering of a situation.
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@porwest (85968)
• United States
23 Jan
@LindaOHio It is unfortunate that in all reality, guys like him are more often the rule rather than the exception. MOST managers are not actually qualified nor equipped to be managers. A lot of times it comes down to who you know and what connections you have, or how good at BS you happen to be.
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@porwest (85968)
• United States
22 Jan
He should not have been a manager. Why businesses keep people like that around is beyond me. It HURTS business because no employee is going to completely follow directives from someone like that NOR work hard for them.
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@allknowing (132679)
• India
22 Jan
To each their own I guess. As long as they do not go against the contract if there is one they are within their rights to do it.
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@porwest (85968)
• United States
22 Jan
To each what's right, I say. Lead by example. If you want the respect of the people under you, you have to earn it. Otherwise, you don't get it. And that is actually bad for the company if the employees don't respect you because they won't take your directives as seriously and won't work as hard for you.
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• Nairobi, Kenya
21 Jan
Many managers in my city come and go as they please.
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@porwest (85968)
• United States
21 Jan
This should never happen. I think this is an abomination, abuse of power, and certainly outside a manager's purview to do this. If you want to be a manager in title only, get out of the job.
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• Nairobi, Kenya
21 Jan
@porwest I would like to be a manager soon.
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