Trump's ACTUAL Positions: Abortion
By Jim Bauer
@porwest (89046)
United States
July 28, 2024 8:20am CST
I think it is time to state the actual Trump positions in a series, because all too often there is much misinformation out there that probably needs to be clarified.
Take the issue of abortion and supposed Republican proposals, now that the decision has been returned to the states with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, which was predicated on the appointment of three Supreme Court justices by Trump who were part of making that decision.
Here is the truth.
Trump does not support abortion and is pro-life. That's true. However, he did not believe that it should be up to the federal government to say one way or the other whether abortions should be legal or not. That's why he pushed for the overturning of Roe v. Wade. To let the citizens decide for themselves through their elected officials in their own states.
On to this idea that Trump would be in support of nationwide abortion bans or that he would push or urge laws to be enacted to outright ban abortion.
This is FALSE.
Trump's actual position on abortion is a moderate one. He has warned Republicans AGAINST bans across the country, and has said that any laws regarding abortion "cannot be too restrictive." In fact, even regarding 6-week bans, Trump has criticized such proposals, and while he has not said what his actual plan would be, he has been vocally interested in negotiating with the Democrats to come up with workable solutions.
Trump is ALSO in favor of exceptions to any laws that might ban abortions to include exceptions for rape, incest, and and severe medical emergencies.
I think these are sensible ideas, and FAR REMOVED from what Democrats are saying he wants to do, and what the media reports he will do regarding abortion.
The bottom line is that Trump does not support nationwide abortion bans, does not support the lack of provisions to make exceptions to laws, but does want thoughtful decisions to be made regarding abortion laws.
To my mind, there is nothing "extreme" about his position on abortion.
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6 responses
@NJChicaa (119288)
• United States
28 Jul
First of all Trump is on record saying that women who have abortions should be punished. Secondly there is an Epstein Island story of him throwing money at an underaged girl that he raped with no protection telling her to just get an abortion. He endorses Project 2025.
He is responsible for Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barrett. He is responsible for overturning Roe. He proudly brags about it. If he is re-elected he 100% will sign a national abortion ban which is freaking ironic for someone who cheated on all of his wives and who paid women to stay quiet about it. Do you really think he hasn't paid for abortions?
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@porwest (89046)
• United States
28 Jul
The video you posted was quite clear in what Trump said. He is pro-life. He does not support abortion. Two things I noted as true in my post. He thinks abortion SHOULD be banned as a matter of his belief and according to PRINCIPLE. Should be and must be, however are VERY different positions and I think that's the part you miss.
I do not support abortion. I think abortions SHOULD be banned. I do not think abortions MUST be banned.
As Trump said, and I agree with him 100%, "It's a very complicated issue." He is right about that because there are so many moving parts to it, and so many opinions about it.
When he says, "There should be some form of punishment," it is based on two concepts: what is life and what is murder? These are important questions to ask. Because if someone believes that taking a life, regardless of the reason, is murder, and one believes murder should be punishable and the two concepts are brought together, it is difficult to separate the two.
And THAT'S what he is saying. If the universal concept is that life is life in the womb and that life is taken away on purpose, that's murder.
Matthews tried to make it sound like Trump was saying something else, and of course he does that to trick people like you into thinking he is making a different argument than the one he is making. Trump's statement was nothing more than his personal rationalization of what abortion means and what abortion is.
He was NOT stating matters of POLICY or policy PUSHES, and THAT'S the distinction.
Trump does not support nationwide abortion bans. He pushed for the overturning of Roe v. Wade SPECIFICALLY to return the decision back to the states. If Trump wanted a nationwide abortion ban, the overturning of Roe v. Wade makes it PROFOUNDLY MORE DIFFICULT to accomplish that because now he has to get 50 states on board with the idea as opposed to simply MAINTAINING Roe v. Wade as it was, and having Congress decide the issue.
You are smarter than this.
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@NJChicaa (119288)
• United States
28 Jul
@porwest Guarantee that idiot would sign a nation wide abortion ban if it were on the table. His lap dog Lindsay Graham has been touting it for many months. Project 2025 wants it.
Trump really is fine with abortion because he's had his wives and mistresses have them. This is all performative BS that unfortunately affects women. Imagine being Tiffany Trump knowing that your father wanted you terminated.
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@porwest (89046)
• United States
28 Jul
@NJChicaa You are NOT paying attention here. At all, by the way. I just TOLD you Trump's position on nationwide abortion bans. I just EXPLAINED to you WHY overturning Roe v. Wade is CONTRARY to accomplishing that goal IF it were his goal. But of course, it is not. I even wrote that Trump has WARNED Republicans calling for the idea of it. So, lap dog or not, Trump is AGAINST the idea of a nationwide abortion ban.
What are you missing? Or more, what are you failing to understand?
Beyond that, how many times do I have to remind you that Project 2025 is NOT a Trump position? It is NOT written by, endorsed by, nor PART OF Trump's platform. It is NOT part of the Republican party platform. It is a manifesto created by and put out by The Heritage Foundation which is NOT associated with the Republican party EVEN IF it is headed by, funded by, and supported by SOME conservatives.
What I stated in my post is the truth, and it's why I posted it. To STOP the lies, such as the ones you are perpetrating here, and set the record straight.
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@marguicha (222142)
• Chile
28 Jul
I think that you are going too far when you say that Trump´s possition about abortion in a moderate one.
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@marguicha (222142)
• Chile
28 Jul
@porwest Why didn´t he do that when he was the president?
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@porwest (89046)
• United States
28 Jul
It is by DEFINITION moderate when a) he does not support a nationwide ban b) has criticized 6-weeks bans c) has warned Republicans seeking bans altogether d) wants to work with Democrats to find workable, sensible solutions that satisfies common interests e) has not taken a totalitarian approach to abortion by releasing the decision back to the states individually to decide and so on so forth.
If his position were not a moderate one, he would have NOT allowed Roe v. Wade to be overturned, making it easier to push a Republican controlled Congress and conservative courts to support a nationwide ban, and would be calling for the prosecution of individuals performing abortions AND having them, making abortions COMPLETELY unlawful.
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@xander6464 (43724)
• Wapello, Iowa
28 Jul
Pure BS. Trump isn't smart enough to be moderate. He is overwhelmingly extreme. Your views on him are fantasy, just like when you talk about his "record." He is Project 2925---No, he was not smart enough to actually write it but his name is literally all over it and it was written by his top advisors.
Kamala can and should make his idiotic abortion views the number one issue of this election.
@moffittjc (121482)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Jul
Back when Roe v. Wade got overturned and everyone was in an uproar, I immediately saw it for what it was. It was not banning abortion as the media kept promoting. It was RETURNING the decision to the state level, to let states decide what their respective abortion laws should be. And this truly does put the power back to the people, because they can vote directly to elect or remove bozos who don't agree with their positions on abortions. And, in most states, adding something like abortion to their state constitution would require direct approval from the voters themselves. So, by overturning Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court was truly putting the decision back into the people's hands.
Personally, I am against abortion. But, I don't think it's my position to FORCE my beliefs onto everyone else. So while I think abortion is wrong, I don't necessarily think it should be illegal. I do think there are extenuating circumstances in which abortions should be allowed. My biggest problem with abortion is when it is used conveniently as a form of contraception.
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@lovebuglena (44360)
• Staten Island, New York
30 Jul
But of course they have to spin it that Trump is for abortion and supports nationwide abortion bans.
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@lovebuglena (44360)
• Staten Island, New York
31 Jul
@porwest They are so good at lying and spinning stories...
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@porwest (89046)
• United States
3 Aug
@lovebuglena Too good, a lot of the time. Uncannily good most of the time.
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@josie_ (10037)
• Philippines
31 Jul
The only reason Trump supports anti-abortion is because he needs the votes of Conservative Christians and Evangelists. It is a transactional relationship. "You scratch my back I scratch yours."
"Old Man" Trump can't even quote a Bible verse, but probably broken all the 10 commandments.
Because the Democrats will be using the abortion issue this election, Trump and his apologists are now saying he does not support a nation-wide ban on abortion. this is doublespeak just like his Supreme court nominees did during their confirmation hearing in Congress regarding Roe V. Wade.
A recent Gallup poll show 85% of Americans believe abortion should be legal in at least certain circumstances. A year after SCOTUS overturn Roe V. Wade, and in the absence of federal protections, state legislatures have become arbiters of abortion. 20 States have near total abortion ban or are severely restricted.
If Trump wins this coming election, given his and his VP nominee JD Vance misogynist attitude towards women, won't he be supporting policies that promotes a "The handmaid's tale" kind of patriarchal society where it is permissible to "grab women by their p@ssy"?
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@josie_ (10037)
• Philippines
2 Aug
@porwest ~Not according to the daughter who has pointed out her diary was stolen and forged additions including that added. IT was such a clumsy forgery that the Trump campaign wouldn’t touch it. She didn’t say in her diary. They sold it to Project Veritas which has a long history of forgery and fake documents and video. Maga morons are the only ones who keep peddling this fake news
I've been following Trump's campaign rallies in the news. So far I still have to hear the specifics of policies he will implement. It's still the same tired old dog whistles, how he is the victim of State persecution and the continuing use of demeaning language and insults characteristics of a school yard bully.
Trump has no policy unless you consider the Heritage Foundation's "project 2025" authoritarian manual which he continues to deny he know anything of.
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@porwest (89046)
• United States
3 Aug
@josie_ Trump is not associated in any way to Project 2025, and in fact, many of the ideas are outside of Trump's actual policy ideas. It's just another attempt to try to scare voters—I say keep trying. Nobody's falling for it and it just makes Trump's support stronger.
As for the claims you said Ashley made, she just came out the other day and said it was hers. Nice try, though.
As for Trump in general, we had no wars. Median income was up. Poverty was down. Welfare rolls were down. The stock market was soaring. GDP was up. We had no inflation. Gas prices were half what they are now. Manufacturing was coming back. Taxes were down. The border was secure. And the list goes on...
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@porwest (89046)
• United States
2 Aug
The fact remains that Roe v. Wade was overturned to return the question and the power to the people, rather than have the federal government decide the law one way or another. Trump is not interested in a nationwide abortion ban.
As for Trump's statement, and your side's continued repeating of it, you seem to forget about Biden's showers with his teenage daughter and all the inappropriate touching and sniffing of little girls he has been seen on camera doing MANY times.
You don't care at all about the country. You speak on things, not policies. And you don't even care about the real problems we are facing which Biden is responsible for.
Very sad.
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