Kolkatta rape horror...proove laws for women in India are ineffective
By vanny
@vandana7 (100616)
India
August 18, 2024 12:26am CST
12 years ago, the atrocities committed on a young physiotherapist in a moving bus were in focus across the world.
Back then they instituted a committee, that took suggestions. And established fast track courts. The judgement came in 2020, with that fast track court.
Many witnesses get fed up of being called so often, and quite often that is the objective of the rapist's lawyers. Others may have memory issues, which lawyers happily play about. Yet others get threatened, or take monies to turn hostile.
Conviction rates are low, and bails are obtained easily, especially if the rapist is a rich guy.
I could blame the titillating scenes in our movies, that are justified by actors as "the script demands it", knowing fully well that Crime Patrol, and other such programs depict it all with finesse even when the script demands it. But our governments do nothing to stop this, because film industry employs many, and there is this need for employment, even if it is low paying job, or a job through casting couch.
So what do governments do?
Offer government jobs to the kin of the gangraped and murdered daughter, or some hefty compensation.
Increase the number of years in imprisonment from 7 years to 10 years, behaving as if they did a great service to women of this country.
They don't confiscate the money of the rich people involved in raping. No, they don't. That is what they need to do as per me.
If the rich cannot get away, then the poor too will start behaving. The rich get away, and are blackmailed by the poor who then get away with crimes riding on the back of the rich and powerful. Get what I mean?
So yeah, assets of the rape accused, their family members, father, mother, wife, son, daughter, grandson, grand daughter, father in law, brother in law, grandfather, grandmother, brothers, all be frozen till the verdict is obtained.
This will force them not to seek those adjournments, and prevent bribes, since they would lose all that money if they lose the case. They would also not be able to use the services of criminals to scare witnesses or victim's family or victim's lawyers.
From the Government, we want all such cases, including acid attacks, to be resolved within 3 months of the incident.
No adjournment for any reason be allowed in these cases.
How about it?
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8 responses
@vandana7 (100616)
• India
18 Aug
@jstory07 3 months, no adjournments, either for advocates or judges or the police personnel. That is the starting point.
Second, the accused stands to lose it all. As does his family. If the accuser is telling lies, she and her family too stand to lose it all. That would be fair.
Usually, people would not take such large risks for raping.
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@vandana7 (100616)
• India
18 Aug
You and I had a long conversation about should parents of the criminal be punished. Remember? Here too it is gangrape. Some rich and powerful person is pulling the strings. That is why I say, freeze the assets of the rich, with a proviso that if they are found guilty, they and their folks will lose all those assets. People accepting bribes would not have any guarantees of receiving those, so would not accept the deals. That would ensure fair justice. Situation here is different from your world. 90 percent of the cases remain in closet, because the society is not very forgiving of the woman raped. Of the rest 10 percent, only 28 percent reach conviction level. Who has time and money for such laborious justice when fast track takes more than 7 years?
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@LindaOHio (181664)
• United States
18 Aug
As always, your suggestions make a lot of sense. Maybe you should run for office? Have a great day.
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@CuriousGab (3292)
• India
20 Aug
Have you heard the recent updates on the case?
The mother in law of accused claimed the accuse use to beat her daughter and even caused miscarriage when she was 3 months pregnant.
She also said hang or do whatever justice wants to do with him.
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@vandana7 (100616)
• India
27 Aug
@CuriousGab For Narendra Modi, women are abused only when they are physically troubled.
Deserting a wife, making her go through social barbs, is not abusing a woman.
What can you expect from such a group of folks?
Shah thumping his chest at increasing the prison term.
Has it served as a deterrent? Nope.
@CuriousGab (3292)
• India
31 Aug
@vandana7 mental or verbal torture should be categorised into severe abuse . The physical abuse leaves scars but the mental abuse leaves injuries which dont heal easily and have an lifelong effect. With time our laws needs to be updated too.
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@CuriousGab (3292)
• India
23 Aug
@vandana7
Vanny activated scientist mind, lol !
Anyways it's really sad to see even after so many days there's no positive movement in the case.
In this country such things are always slow
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@vandana7 (100616)
• India
19 Aug
Heart hurts. In India there are many cases. Don't know where to start and stop talking about them. There was Aruna Shanbaug. The guy served and was released. The nurse went into coma and never recovered. 41 years in coma. Then there was Bhanwari Devi case. The lady only tried to tell the parents not to get their baby married. Unfortunately for her, the police came to that place at the time of marriage for some other purpose, and the girl's folk gangraped her in front of her husband under the impression that she called them. In 1992 riots, religious fanatics went so far as raping a pregnant lady, Bilkis Bano, killing her husband and her child. The case dragged on for ages, till the conviction was achieved. In about 2 decades, they were looking to pardon those guys, and she had to run around courts again to cancel that lower court pardon.
I am mighty glad that the Police chief here, decided to kill the rapists of a veterinary doctor. He risked his career. But if the courts are not able to do justice what choice do we have? Judges are not wrong. They are often afraid of the rich and powerful. After all, they have families too.
There is an organization here, that does detective work. It locates the human trafficked girls, and brings them back, rehabilitates them. Needless to say, I will be writing something to this organization in my will. I love my country, and I love our girls. I hope we come to our senses in time.
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@xander6464 (44420)
• Wapello, Iowa
19 Aug
@vandana7 Weave many of the same problems here.
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@xander6464 (44420)
• Wapello, Iowa
1 Sep
@vandana7 There are a lot of those families here with lots of kids for the same religious reasons but the daughters don't get sold. Otherwise, there's not much difference.
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@vandana7 (100616)
• India
10 Sep
There are cultural differences here Pony ji. Here, if a rich guy commits a crime, the poor do the dirty job of cleaning up. Consequently, the rich man is obliged to stand by the big or small mistakes of the poor guy, lest his crime becomes known. So the starting point is more often than not, the rich guy.
Even so, if the rich can be scared off rapes, by making laws to take away their properties (not inconsequential fines), the police force will be left with only poor to focus on, and they will also be more honest, since they will not get any bribes.
That is why the assets of the rich man be frozen, and taken away should he be proved guilty.
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@vandana7 (100616)
• India
10 Sep
@TheHorse Once convicted, the government should just take away properties. Not only of the rapist, but also of his mother, father, spouse, children, and grandparents. What were they doing instead of giving right values to their kid? Time to scare people out of wits.
In Indian context, I already told you, the rapes are more per 100 simply because men get dowries. Such attribute makes them arrogant, and they are not corrected.
So corresponding fear of loss will reduce their value in the eyes of family, consequently over pampering will stop.
