Is your car collecting data about you?

@JudyEv (342041)
Rockingham, Australia
October 10, 2024 9:04pm CST
The photo has nothing to do with the text. Two news items have caught my attention recently and both to do with privacy issues. The first was that popular car brands are collecting and sharing driver data. Microphones, sensors and other features have led to modern cars being dubbed ‘smartphones on wheels’. Out of the ten most popular brands, seven were able to track driver date and driving habits. Vaguely worded privacy policies enabled these manufacturers to sell the data to third parties. The three most concerning brands were Hyundai, Kia and Tesla. The first two, which share the same parent company, also collect voice-recognition data and sell it to Credence, an artificial intelligence (AI) software training company. Tesla collects short images and videos from both inside and outside their vehicles. All this is a bit worrying but I’m not sure what ordinary citizens can do about it.
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@AmbiePam (93871)
• United States
11 Oct
My dad was talking about that the other day. He doesn’t like it (his car does it), but then he also doesn’t like that his phone can lead people to track him.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
Mostly people don't know it's happening. Phones are much too smart for my liking too.
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@snowy22315 (182140)
• United States
11 Oct
Not my car, but I have a driving app that is supposed to give me a discount
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
Mostly people don't know they're there. But probably older cars don't have them.
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@kaylachan (71734)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
11 Oct
There's nothing you can really do. When you buy a car, you're doing it with the understanding that data will need to be collected in order for the car to work in your best interest. Most people don't realize this. That when they sign on that dotted line, they are agreeing to a lot of things. Which may include use and distribution of data that is collected for you. Privacy and security, no w days are a well-crafted illussion designed to make us feel a sense of control.
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@Fleura (30541)
• United Kingdom
11 Oct
@JudyEv Thanks. Worrying stuff, maybe I won't buy another car after all.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
@Fleura Just get a very old-fashioned bike! lol
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
@Fleura Here's the link. I guess there has to be a camera somewherre.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-10-09/car-brands-are-tracking-and-sharing-your-data-with-third-parties/104440742
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@jstory07 (139927)
• Roseburg, Oregon
11 Oct
That is not a good thing for your car to be doing.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
I agree completely. I think manufacturers should not be allowed to do this.
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@sallypup (61622)
• Centralia, Washington
11 Oct
I doubt my car collects anything. There is a computer but its purpose is to tell me about mechanical issues.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
They are saying these are built-in and drivers don't know it's happening, but it's probably only with more modern cars.
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@MarieCoyle (38671)
11 Oct
I drive a Hyundai. I think if it's tracking my data or any information, it will mark me down in it's little book of records as being rather boring. I try to follow the driving laws and limits, I don't swerve or drive crazy, and I have patterns to where I go. If anything, the car would think I was nuts, all the trips I make to haul my son to the treatment center, hospital, etc. I am not going to worry about it at this point, if it wants to know about me, it already does.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
I agree but it's underhand to think this is going on and they're selling whatever information they are finding out.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
@MarieCoyle I'm sure that's very true. I have another post about something a bit similar which is also scary.
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@MarieCoyle (38671)
11 Oct
@JudyEv There are more than likely many ways that data on us is collected, probably more ways than we realize.
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@allknowing (137706)
• India
12 Oct
Another source is Apps. Every single App before being downloaded will ask for data on you. I never donwload Apps
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Oct
I don't have many apps. Just the one I think.
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@LadyDuck (472070)
• Switzerland
11 Oct
25 car brands have been found guilty of collecting data and 84% of them share or sell the data they collect. Modern cars are a privacy nightmare.
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@LadyDuck (472070)
• Switzerland
11 Oct
@JudyEv - I can tolerate the fact that they collect "driving habits" but NOT images of the inside of the car.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
It's a bad state of affairs for sure.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Oct
@LadyDuck I can't see any need for them to be taking photos of the interior of the car.
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@wolfgirl569 (108071)
• Marion, Ohio
11 Oct
Big brother is everywhere now. My truck is dumb but I have my phone with me most times so they can still track me if they want to
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@wolfgirl569 (108071)
• Marion, Ohio
11 Oct
@JudyEv It truly is.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
You're stuck with these things. A mobile phone is just about a must-have nowadays but you have to put up with all the rubbish that comes with it.
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@rakski (126006)
• Philippines
11 Oct
It's alarming how much data modern cars can collect, often without people realizing its extent.
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@rakski (126006)
• Philippines
11 Oct
@JudyEv that is true
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
There is nothing we can do about it but it's annoying to think it's happening.
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@RasmaSandra (80708)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
11 Oct
I have not had a car for ages, I used to drive a Hyundai Excel,
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Oct
I had an Excel. I loved that ittle car.
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@Ronrybs (19585)
• London, England
11 Oct
I heard about the Tesla one where the HQ staff were sharing photos from inside the cars. I also heard that many makes are secretly using GPS devices that send back data to the manufacturers. All a bit worrying as I am sure the consent for this to happen is hidden in the contract small print
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
@Ronrybs They're very clever/conniving.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Oct
They're saying it's hidden in the fine print. Who takes the time to read pages and pages of it?
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@Ronrybs (19585)
• London, England
12 Oct
@JudyEv Must of it is deliberately long and obscure so people never finish it
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@Beestring (14692)
• Hong Kong
11 Oct
Very nice picture. With the advancement of technology, we do not have much privacy left.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
That's very true and there is even less that we can do about it.
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@somewitch (1417)
11 Oct
I don't have a car so that doesn't concern me, but my father has a Tesla and yeah, he's a little frustrated at the fact he's constantly being watched. Yet, if he complies with the law he shouldn't worry about it.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
Even if he is obeying all the laws, it's unethical that the manufacturers are collecting data about it without your knowledge or your express permission.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
@somewitch Although it's funny, it's also a worry that the car could do that.
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@somewitch (1417)
11 Oct
@JudyEv Right, they let him know but clearly didn't ask for permission. He thought he turned off the interior camera once but later the car caught him using his phone while the autopilot was on.
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@pitstop (14079)
• Australia
11 Oct
Our personal data is being taken everywhere. From shops to work computers to cars and any smart devices. I guess it's inevitable. The wordy terms and conditions that we sign has a few things snuck in!
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Oct
Who reads the pages and pages of fine print? Maybe we'll all have to start doing that. :(
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@RebeccasFarm (90433)
• Arvada, Colorado
11 Oct
I don't have a car but when I walk past some of them, I am sure they are.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Oct
I guess more and more technology gets added to these newer models.
@Fleura (30541)
• United Kingdom
11 Oct
This is all quite concerning. And of course if you buy a second-hand car I don't know if you even get to see the 'privacy policy' - how does that work?
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
Who would know?
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@LindaOHio (181645)
• United States
11 Oct
Surely there is something we can do about this. Tesla does not surprise me. Big Brother is watching and listening to you. Have a great day.
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Oct
Our National TV station got on to it but I don't know what, if anything, will be done about it.
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• Northampton, England
11 Oct
pretty much everything is collecting data
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@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Oct
Yes, that's true. There is no way getting away from it.
• India
11 Oct
Unfortunately any car which can access internet and have smart connectivity , have high probability to collect our data and analyse. The initial idea was to collect the driver data and analyse how the car is being used by the user with respect to his or her demographics. However, it can be misused and there are instances they are misused to suit things with help of artificial intelligence. Most people do not care about these as they just want to have fun riding the car . However, there are challenges that needs to be accepted by manufacturers with our sensitive data . Well, hopefully government regulations may come into picture to help!
@JudyEv (342041)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Oct
You've put it all very well. Let''s hope some guidelines will be brought in to help control these things.
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