Should We Ever Tolerate or Accept Violence
By DB
@dgobucks226 (36417)
April 8, 2025 4:11pm CST
Is this current violence a justified way to express your dissatisfaction of government policies? Is destroying Tesla's, damaging Tesla Dealerships, and lighting charging stations on fire an acceptable way to protest? Should intimidating others who don't share your political views and ideology be the way to spread your message?
Just a few questions to consider as extreme liberals and the Democratic Party seem to believe this is a positive way to convey their message to Americans.
It used to be the Far-Right Conservatives like Neo-Nazis, Proud Boys, and Q-Anon who were in the spotlight and received the attention. Now, not only groups like Antifa, but a radical leftist portion of our society, not limited to just young people, are spreading hatred and using violence.
Why is this happening?
1. Legacy media outlets like MSNBC are sending listeners the wrong message. Unhappy with losing power viewers are hearing radical commentators advocate for tearing down our government, removing our Constitution, and abolishing the Senate.
2.On college campuses, affluent students and even professors are engaging in political violence.
***Just last week, a University of Wisconsin Professor and head of the English Department, turned over the table of College Republicans supporting a conservative for the Wisconsin Supreme Court. He reportedly declared, “The time for this is over!” Is this the example a teacher should be setting for his students?
***Another instance of a conservative campus group being attacked was at the University of California-Davis where their display and tent was torn down by leftist students along with Antifa protesters.
3. Another factor in the increasing violence can be attributed to Democratic leaders old and new like Maxine Waters and Jasmine Crockett, (the new voice of the Democrat party,) who have fueled this violence with their incendiary rhetoric.
***Waters has said in the past for liberals to "push back" and confront anyone with a differing viewpoint on Democrat policies. Crockett has advocated fighting back, threatening violence against political opponents on the right. She has called for Tesla CEO Elon Musk to be “taken down” and said that Democrats have to be “OK with punching.
Some people take these words as justification to violently attack anyone associated with the Trump Administration and their policies. It actually seems like these radical lawbreakers use their "rage" as a release to deal with the outcome of the election.
Furthermore, there is an alarming number of citizens and illegals who believe it is justified to burn a Tesla or even to kill Donald Trump.
Glorifying and condoning violence is not an acceptable means of achieving your goals in a Democracy! 
Is violence ever justified? Yes! When threatened with harm or if you're in fear of your life self-defense is an acceptable action.
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Is violence ever justified? Yes! When threatened with harm or if you're in fear of your life self-defense is an acceptable action.
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8 responses
@kaylachan (76798)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
8 Apr
Self defence in my opinion, isn't violance, because it doesn't fall under the intent to do harm. the people causing violent acts, are doing so with the soul purpose of creating and causing harm. But, we don't have people teaching todays kids any different. We're more concerned about protecting feelings then we are about dealing with those feelings and addressing them.
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@dgobucks226 (36417)
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11 Apr
Yes, I see your point. It is physical force, but it is in answer to a violence being used against you.
An interesting take on what is wrong with our society and a possible reason it became more lawless and violent. Maybe our focus should be addressing what is right and wrong, lawful and unlawful, and the consequences of our actions rather the progressive stuff being taught in schools today.
And our politicians and media should not be tolerant and supportive for people committing violence, justifying their behavior.
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@kaylachan (76798)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
11 Apr
@dgobucks226 No they shouldn't, but it's a catch 22. If we try to do something about it, you'll have someone screaming you're taking our rights away. Don't do enough, it continues to esculate. Problem is, our laws hold no real conquences, and most crimes people can buy their way out of.
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@porwest (98902)
• United States
11 Apr
@kaylachan What rights would be taken away? No one has the right to destroy property or break the law. Protesting is one thing. Vandalism is another. And clearly one is not the other here.
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@dgobucks226 (36417)
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10 Apr
I had a feeling someone would go there.
As they say, two wrongs don't make a "right." The January 6th election protesters who were violent should of gotten more jail time than they served in the Washington DC Gulag.
Of course, I would argue the circumstances were different. Some of those accused violent protesters at the Capitol were defending themselves from overzealous police who were roughing them up as they were aiding other citizens trapped and tear gassed in a building enclosure. In the case of the Tesla fire setters no one was in danger of any harm. It was a calculated deliberate act.
If you don't like Elon Musk helping the Trump Administration to cut government wasteful spending and fraud (although why you wouldn't is beyond comprehension) then boycott and don't buy a Tesla. But to destroy his cars borders on domestic terrorism!
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@dgobucks226 (36417)
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10 Apr
@sallypup I won't even bother to respond to you. Your totally in the dark!
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@rsa101 (38399)
• Philippines
9 Apr
It's important to consider the impact and effectiveness of different forms of protest. While expressing dissatisfaction with government policies is a fundamental right, resorting to violence and destruction is not a constructive or acceptable way to convey a message. Actions like damaging property, intimidating others, and inciting fear only serve to deepen divisions and undermine the legitimacy of the cause.
Peaceful and respectful dialogue, along with lawful demonstrations, are more effective ways to bring about change and foster understanding. It's crucial to remember that in a democracy, diverse viewpoints should be heard and debated without resorting to violence. Let's strive for a society where we can express our differences in a manner that promotes unity and progress.
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@rsa101 (38399)
• Philippines
14 Apr
I am not picking sides on any political issues here, @dgobucks226. Since the other party used the same violent tactics to gain attention when they were in the same fence as the current administration, I believe that both sides may be guilty of doing so. The key word here, in my opinion, is tolerance among their supporters so that they do not resort to violence to express their concerns and moderation in their attempts to further their political agendas.
@dgobucks226 (36417)
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11 Apr
I agree, well stated!
Those liberal Democratic politicians need to follow your advice and not endorse violent protest as a way to enforce their agenda. The statements they have made about Musk's role in Trump's administration only encourages and legitimizes unlawful and destructive behavior among unhinged people.
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@RebeccasFarm (93571)
• United States
10 Apr
Well as you know some people are special and allowed to do whatever crimes they please.
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@dgobucks226 (36417)
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11 Apr
Spoken tongue in cheek... 
In a recent poll taken 40% of respondents say it is ok to set fire to a Tesla. Disturbing! I would venture to say there were no Trump supporters represented in that poll, lol.
In a recent poll taken 40% of respondents say it is ok to set fire to a Tesla. Disturbing! I would venture to say there were no Trump supporters represented in that poll, lol.
@aninditasen (16964)
• Raurkela, India
9 Apr
Whatever the situation violence cannot be the answer. Violence hurts people and destroys properties.
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@aninditasen (16964)
• Raurkela, India
11 Apr
@dgobucks226 It's high time government and police should show zero tolerance to violence every where.
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@dgobucks226 (36417)
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11 Apr
Yes, perpetuating violence as acceptable should never be tolerated. Thanks for your viewpoint!
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@porwest (98902)
• United States
11 Apr
It kind of makes every single argument the left ever had about J6 rather moot, don't you think? I mean, I have said it many times, that it's one thing to disagree with someone and even to campaign against what you disagree with. But it's entirely another to want to literally destroy the person with whom you disagree with.
These are not protests. This is vandalism and corruption at its core. We have a system for dealing with our disagreements, and this isn't one of the parts of it.
You know, when our side disliked the Dylan Mulvaney association with Bud Light, we didn't rampage into stores with sledgehammers and Molotov cocktails and destroy cases of Bud Light. We simply left it off the shelves and chose another brand.
This stuff has just gotten way out of hand, and like you alluded to, the media seems to be CHAMPIONING this sort of thing rather than outright calling it out for what it is. Terrorism with intent to force people to stop doing things they don't agree with.
The fact that most on the left are silent about this tells it all. They are against violence, supposedly, EXCEPT when the violence is perpetrated on their enemies. Then it's perfectly okay.
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@dgobucks226 (36417)
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11 Apr
Liberals and Democrat supporters and those with TDS definitely want to equate the two. We still don't know the complete specifics of what went down on Jan. 6th. Were there FBI operatives instigating protestors to violence? Seems from the disobedience and obstruction being found by Trump's FBI within the department it is a valid question. Were there Anti-Trump groups bused in to stir up violence, possibly. All the public gets is a B.S. scam of an investigation by the Democrats nit-picking video that suits their violence objectives. No mention of the people in the Capitol taking selfies.
One is a protest which got out of hand, the other a deliberate act of "planned" violence designed to hurt Musk, Tesla dealers and infrastructure in the name of their cause.
Leave it to the media to condone violence as justified if it's against anyone who supports Trump. Heck, they're even rooting for China to defeat Trump in a tariff war! Talk about patriotic. 
I like your Dylan Mulvaney example, and you can add the Target protests against transgender baby attire.
If you don't like something don't buy it, to send a message as you correctly point out with your example.
I like your Dylan Mulvaney example, and you can add the Target protests against transgender baby attire.
If you don't like something don't buy it, to send a message as you correctly point out with your example.
@sallypup (63726)
• Centralia, Washington
8 Apr
So we folks who don't accept the KKK and white supremacy are supposed to just allow ourselves to be rolled over on? When a semi is barrelling toward you, don't defend yourself?? Pardon me.
@JudyEv (350692)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr
You haven't mentioned the Republicans who attacked the Capitol building. That wasn't justified either. Just sayin'.
@dgobucks226 (36417)
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11 Apr
They didn't attack the Capitol building in masse. The majority of those people were peacefully protesting the election results outside. I agree anyone destroying property or deliberately attacking law enforcement should be given a jail term. The January 6th situation got out of hand. The purpose of the event was not to come with the intent of storming the Capitol. You cannot make the same claim with these people who did intend to burn Teslas and damage dealerships.
Furthermore, some of those accused protesters at the Capitol were defending themselves from overzealous police who were roughing them up as they were aiding other citizens trapped and tear gassed in a building enclosure. At that point they became violent. In the case of the Tesla fire setters no one was in danger of any harm. It was a calculated deliberate act.
I think you would agree, the people who want to hurt you or set fire to cars because they don't like your politics are nuts and emotionally disturbed. So, that's my take on these insane people vs the Capitol riot.
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