Need Advice!!

@Ambur25 (1006)
United States
December 7, 2006 4:30pm CST
My youngest son, who's 4 years old, is a total.......... sweetheart. Yeah right. Lol. He's a lil' terror at times and he knows this. He does things JUST because he knows he can, and he'll just "deal with the consequences later." Consequences do not matter to him. He just simply doesn't care. We've tried spanking. We've tried, "time out." We've tried taking priveledges such as TV and/or games. I don't know what else to do!! I'm at my wits end with my son. I love him dearly. He is my life. (Along with my oldest son). I just don't know what else I can do to help him understand, there are certain things you just. dont. do!
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26 responses
• United States
8 Dec 06
How consistent are you with the consequences. Do you repeatedly use the same punishment, or do you use it once and then use another? Try to be consistent. I found a reward chart to be quite helpful. Give a star for good behavior, take a star for behavior that is inappropriate.
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• United States
8 Dec 06
that's a great idea!
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@medooley (1873)
• United States
8 Dec 06
This is the best piece of advise by far....
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@Ambur25 (1006)
• United States
8 Dec 06
I love that idea. With the play money. That's seriously brilliant. I am doing "kind of" the same thing. Only with real money. My boys start the week with 5 $1 bills taped under their name on a dry erase board. Each time they do something inappropriate or get in trouble at school, they lose $1. On Friday, we go "shopping" and they buy anything they want with whatever money they have left. So far, this is working for the most part. The first week, neither of my boys had ANY money left! lol. But this week, my oldest has $4 left, and my youngest has $2. However, my youngest lost ALL his money in 2 days! haha. But, by being "good" he was able to gain $1. And then the other. Today, after school, we will go shopping again. But the play money is an awesome idea. They can have more than $5 in "play money." I think they would see it more as a reward if they had $50 in play money, versus $5 in real money. Great idea! Thank you.
• Austria
7 Dec 06
You have to discipline him. You have to exercise your being a monther to him. He shoudl know hów to respect you. But first consult a doctor because he might just be a hyper active type. So maybe there is nothing wrong with him. Some kids behave like that because of being hyperactive. Maybe the doctor can give some medications to your son. Hope that helps you. Good luck and have a nice day.
@Ambur25 (1006)
• United States
8 Dec 06
You kinda make me sound like I'm not being a mother. Don't appreciate that. But anyways. I do discipline him. He just doesn't care that he gets disciplined. As I said in my post, the things that I have tried. He's not an unruly child. He just has his moments when he could care less what the consequences are for doing certain things. But thank you for your response. =)
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• United States
8 Dec 06
Medication is NOT the answer! that is the answer for parents who do not care about their children and they just want to shut them up! I think she is referring to Riddlein, for ADHD children.. Kids that young CANNOT be properly diagnosed because they are young and active! I think you are doinga good job and you have done what you think would help and they haven't! just keep trying!
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• Philippines
8 Dec 06
spanking isn't the only way to discipline ur child, or should i say that before you discipline ur child you have to explain to them why you are doing that for them to know that they have done something wrong and they had to be punished. and punishments are done to correct something that is wrong.
• United States
8 Dec 06
I have one of those kids too! he is also the youngest except he is 3 1/2 He thinks he rules the place and can do whatever he wants, he just started this new "thing" he flips people off, it makes me mad to NO end, I will slap his hands and tell him that is a bad word and he gets all mad and screams and runs off, then he will hide in the couch with his hands behind the couch cusion and I know what he is doing (flipping me off) but he says he is not. I also have tried diciplining and it just doesn't work for him. I have also come to my wit's end so I just try and deal with it the best I can. I have found ignoring him makes him realize that he is doing something bad and no one cares, so then he stops doing it cause no one is paying attention. He does it so people will laugh, and when no one does he stops!! Time out, spankings, taking stuff away, telling him Santa will not bring him anything DOES NOT WORK!! Well I wish you the best of luck! I think we both need it! haha..
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@Ambur25 (1006)
• United States
8 Dec 06
O.o Same here darlin'. Good luck! Lol. Thank you for sharing. =)
@acosjo (1903)
• Canada
7 Dec 06
I'm in the same situation as you. My boy is 4 and a half. Currently I am being really calm with him. It seems that if I deal with him in a calm tone, he responds well. Don't get me wrong, kids are kids and no matter what you do, they will act up. They're kids so you can't be too hard on them, at the same time you also have to be stern. I feel good about being as calm with him as possible. Remember this is a phase and it will soon pass. Kids will be kids and there are some things you will just have to accept. I have been up the last 3 nights with my kids (I also have a 1 year old girl) at 4AM and they don't want to sleep in their room. I don't however get angry at them as I know when I did this to my mom when I was a kid, she never got upset with me. She did want I needed (hungy, thirsty, sleep in my room with me etc) and put me back to sleep. He will soon be in school (if not already) and you will have the days to relax, get things done, work etc.
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@Ambur25 (1006)
• United States
8 Dec 06
Thank you for your response. Talking calmly to his does help... for a while. Lol. It's like, he realizes there are no 'real' consequences, he's more apt to do it again. But, when he knows the consequences, he may think twice about it, but go ahead and do it! Lol. Thank you for your response. =)
• United States
8 Dec 06
Take his FAVORITE toy away, that is what I have done with my son, it works.. But only for a while! like anything else!! But I think your response here is a very good one and good advice!
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@acosjo (1903)
• Canada
8 Dec 06
Thanks Jens....
• Ireland
8 Dec 06
Hi Ambur25, Off course you love him or you wouldn't ask for help. I know how difficult children can be at this age. You need to figure out a strategy to deal with the situation. Maybe I can offer a few suggestions. Be consistant and clear when dealing with your son. He need sto know that you will warn him no more then 3 times before taking action. If you give a last warning, make sure it is the last warning. Make clear what will happen and also do what you say you will. When you warn him, tell him why he should stop. Go down on his eyelevel and explain what is going on and why that isn't acceptable behaviour. When he does change his behaviour, thank him and tell him that you are proud with him. Give him a time out, if he still continues. Let him stay there 4 minutes and then ask him if he knows why he is there. Basically he should apologize to you before being allowed to paly again. I know it is very hard, but try to spend as much quality time with both your kids and do things together. Most of all try not to let your frustration get the better of you. You need to be in control of the situation and of yourself. Keep showing your love and appreciation to him and I am cetain he will respond. It won't be easy, buut it will be worth the effort. Good luck!
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@Ambur25 (1006)
• United States
8 Dec 06
Thank you.. for the sincere response. I appreciate it. Honestly, I didn't think this would turn out to be so many people telling me, "Just give him love." Like I don't do that. Lol. So seriously. Thank you. It's great advice. =)
• United States
7 Dec 06
hmmm... take him to juvinelle (sp) hall, and show him what caring about the consequences later can do to him. Have him talk to some of the kids there (if its allowed). Maybe find a support group of parents with unruley kids? =/ that's a hard one really.
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@medooley (1873)
• United States
8 Dec 06
This is just my opinion but you shouldn't be telling him 15 times in ten minutes... it should be 1 time and if he doesn't stop sit him down in time out. If he does it again right back to time out... you have to be consistant. If he doesn't do it the first time you have to do the punishment. If you have you have to be willing to have him sit in time out all day if needed.
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@Ambur25 (1006)
• United States
8 Dec 06
If he were older, and maybe doing more.... unacceptable things, this would work. However, the types of things he does is not really of "unlawful" nature. Just things such as... I've told him to stop jumping on his bed 15 times in 10 minutes. He says "Okay." Hops down, and in a few minutes, he's right back up there. Lol. So I make him stand in the corner for time-out. He gets out 4 minutes later, and he jumps on the bed again. So I spanked him. He whines, I tell him why he shouldn't jump on the bed. (Fear of him falling and getting hurt.) And he understands. He just ... doesn't care. Lol
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• United States
8 Dec 06
You cannot take a 4 year old to the Juvenile detention center and think he is going to understand he is a little boy!! He isn't going to know what is going on, he is going to think they are going on a feild trip! That just wouldn't work!
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@Glenn2007 (235)
• United States
8 Dec 06
well it much you can changed a 4 year son theirs will grow out of it soon like 10 year old
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• India
8 Dec 06
You have to discipline him.
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• China
8 Dec 06
i think you can make your child understand what to door not,take care of your child
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• India
8 Dec 06
keep him busy & give him time to understand things and also understand life i am sure he will be a good person in future
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• India
8 Dec 06
Hey..... youngest son, right.. then just enjoy whatever he is doing( without harming him and others)..... you cant enjoy these mischief's after he grows up.... you can never get them back. My suggestion would be just enjoy it and take care he is not hurting himself in that process.
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@hm1177 (1222)
8 Dec 06
i have a 4 year old girl who is so up and down and no matter how we deal with it it just depends on how she feels whether its resolved quickly or not. The one thing i have found works though is when she is screaming at me/thumping me or whatever is to give her a cuddle and tell her i love her. It really catches her off guard and settles her. However its hard to do this coz the automatic response is to shout back!
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@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
8 Dec 06
You need to give him a clear and well balanced structure through out the day. If you organize activities with him, you will be engaging his attention into activities you both can enjoy. He's a terror because he is trying to grab your attention anyway he can get it. As for discipline, you need to be consistent and follow through. You give him three warnings and then if they are ignored you place him in time out, you tell him why you placed him there and why the behavior was inappropriate. When the time is up ask him to explain why he was in time out, and then ask for an apology. If he is misbehaving with a toy, then you can institute taking away that item. Get yourself a storage container, and everytime he misbehaves with the toy, whether it is hitting someone with it, or not picking it up, you give the three warnings, and then you take it away and let him know he has lost the toy for a day a week. You can also start a reward chart, where you give him specific behavioral situations you want to see him work on and when he successfully does it he gets a sticker to put on the chart, and when he earns 10 or 15 stickers he gets to choose a reward from you special reward box. Creat a reward box and fill it with little trinkets that aren't expensive. The key is be consistent, spanking will only make him fear you and teach him that when we don't get our way or we get mad we use violence to handle it and fix it. It's not a good lesson to teach a small impressionable kid. I would definitely suggest consistent daily routine to keep him busy with interactive activities you engage him with. He will get that quality time he is obviously misbehaving to get. If this doesn't work, I'd suggest counseling with a specialist that can teach you and him behavioral management techniques to implement to correct his behavior before he gets older and more out of hand. Good luck to you.
• United States
8 Dec 06
the punish has to fit the crime find other things to do my does it some times too
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@pookie92 (1714)
• United States
8 Dec 06
at 4 consequences are hard to understand. He is just seeing how far he can push you. The worse thing you can do is to lose your cool. Just keep up with it. When he is being naughty, you need to reassure him that you'll always love him no matter what. You also need to tell him that he isn't a naughty boy, just a boy who is acting naughty. If he gets labeled naughty, he will act according to his name.
• United States
8 Dec 06
I know how you feel I have 4 boys 19 , 7,13, 3 they run around the house like crazy they do not care tryed so many things and take away things do not care kids now a days are not scared of parents
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• United States
8 Dec 06
Some of it is the age. My younger daughter will have tantrums and such. basically she is a great kid. I don't have to punish her much, but she does have her moments! A reward chart is a good idea. Good luck, just know you are not alone!
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• Pakistan
8 Dec 06
I can't say anything.
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@elzenren (192)
• Philippines
8 Dec 06
my son is 2 years old and when he do bad things i use his belt to spank him.... you have to descipline your child while he is still young because when he grows old and get used to his wrong doing its a big problem on your part... you'll be the one to suffer.... and of course after spanking him ask him why did you spank him so that he will know the reason ... and tell him that you spank him because you love him and that you want him to grow up with discipline....
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@khathorxe (333)
• Philippines
8 Dec 06
Dont rush the kid...time would come and he`ll see it all.its just a matter of timing.
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