Evolution VS Creationism

try finding the book The Evolution of a Creationist. it's written by a scientist who, after living in confusion about the creation/evolution question, did some research on his own. in this book you will find evidences that debunk evolution and stuff. i found it to be a very interesting read. my personal stand on the matter: i dont believe in evolution. though it is evident that all living things exhibit the ability to adapt to the conditions around them, drastic changes from being a single-celled organism to a human being is just too far out (even though they claim that the process took millions of years). another thing, darwin mentioned natural selection, which simply states that the strongest survive. in this line of thinking, it says that evolution is a linear process; that organisms adapt to the changes happening around them, and those whcannot adapt die out. if this is true, why are there still bacteria existing? why havent they evolved into higher life forms? (i could've stated these better but my head is killing me.) plus, there is the question of the ultimate source. scientists say the big bang set the universe in motion. the big bang was caused by super compressed matter in space that exploded. question: where did those matter come from? the theory of evolution begs the question of the ultimate source, that creationism answers simply.

Also on television, maybe Discovery or National Geographic, I've seen a documentary on creationism and I am able to recall one big objection to evolutionism, that is the eye, it didn't develop from a primary form, it appeared just as it is now, completely "developed" with all its features. So, the gap is still there. On the other side, the God (there is only one God that is present in every great religion of the world) I think created first simple bacterias and step by step He developed them into more complicated beings, and the same with monkeys and apes, they were "helped" to evolve into more complex beings, the Nature was "helped" in its efforts to bring up more and more complex organisms. And I wander if God's name (Yahweh, the One tho makes things develop) is not related to such evolving activity.

I have a big problem with people saying that evolution is definitely true because it is just a theory and one that as many evidences against it to boot. For one thing, if evolution does occur, then why is it not still happening. Wouldn't we still be evolving. Noone can convince me that we have arrived as human beings and this is as good as it gets. I would rather nelive what my faith tells me is true than a scientific theory that has so many holes that it can't even hold sand.

to me there is a great deal of scientific evidence for evolution and the existence of Lucy, there is conversly non at all to suport creationalism. To me man made god in his own image, not the other way round

if evolution was happening according to a divine rule, who is manipulating it, y is it that the evolution always obeys the laws like survival of the fittest, y is evolution always directed towards betterment of that situation & it always happens wen the spices is in danger & if a divine matter was taing care of evolution i dont think he would be waiting until the creature is in danger to evolve it. He may have started the evolution which i am not beliving in, i dont think there is a dvivne powere taking care of evolution.

I find it strange myself that through the ages man has used the bible as their history books and laws. but now it is just concidered just a book by scientist but they will believe other books that are written by ordinary men. and funnier yet the bible has proven science over and over again ..but when science tries to prove itself it fails.

god was human..........and he did pass through the process of evolution ..........and if we keep on thinking on such subject who came first we would loose precious time of our life which needs attention..........

I agree with you

Whew...nice to see that so many people have responded to your topic here.Usually, people look on to simple discussions and don't take more headache in getting into sensible and comlicated ones like this....good. Well, coming to your point, even i don't understand evolution things as scientists themeselves have come out with different explanations and it's too difficult to pick the best...isn't it? so, instead of taking this headache, simply forget and enjoy life as it comes....what do you say?

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(my headache still hasn't gotten better). anyway, from what i remember in my past studies that darwin's theory of evolution and christian creationism cant go hand in hand, since darwin's progression of the species (from bacteria to sea creatures so on and so forth) contradicts the series in the book of Genesis. i think darwin said reptiles came before fishes, while the book of genesis says "on the fifth day, God created fish and birds, and on the sixth day the beasts according to their kinds. correct me if im wrong, it's been a while since i've had read about evolution and creatonism.

I tried collecting some information on this topic.. I got some points in the works and words of Dr. Joan... I'm sharing it with u guys... Dr. Joan Roughgarden has a unique perspective on the debate over evolution and intelligent design: she’s an evolutionary biologist, a professor of biological sciences and geophysics at Stanford University—and a Christian. In her new book, Evolution and Christian Faith (Island Press, $14.95, August 2006), Dr. Roughgarden attempts to bury the hatchet between faith and science. Far from being a threat to belief in God, “evolutionary biology actually promotes a Christian view of nature and of our human place in it,” she says. “Christians can rejoice in the ethical meaning behind what evolutionary biologists are finding through their research.” Christians needn’t rely on “Intelligent Design” (ID), a theory Dr. Roughgarden dismisses as both “junk science” and “junk religion.” ID makes up problems with evolutionary biology that aren’t there, while ignoring problems that do exist, she says. She is more concerned about the religious assumptions behind ID: “It says the facts of nature offer a better testimonial to God than the Bible does, and asks you to believe in God on the basis of miracles.” While some parts of evolutionary biology have been demonstrated as true, not all of the subject started by Charles Darwin is as clear cut as its basic facts are, and some points are problematic, Dr. Roughgarden acknowledges. Yet not teaching the proven parts of evolution would be like failing to teach that the earth is round, she says. All of evolutionary biology hangs on two facts: one family tree unites all of life, and species change through time and place. One of the most contentious issues is the question of randomness, because of confusion about what scientists mean by “random.” “Evolutionary theory does not assert that the complexity of life is a ‘mere random process,’” Dr. Roughgarden says, “It asserts only that the mutation process is random, not that evolution as a whole lacks direction. Saying that mutation is random has nothing to do with whether evolutionary change is unfolding according to God’s design.” “As products of evolution we are not casual or meaningless,” Dr. Roughgarden writes. “I thank God for willing me and loving me. I thank him too for guiding me into evolutionary biology.” Dr. Roughgarden, an Episcopalian, devotes a chapter to the Roman Catholic church’s “nuanced and rather hands-off” position on evolution. Catholic teaching insists that the emergence of humanity was a willful act of God, but does not see a problem with evolutionary mechanisms such as random mutation and natural selection. “I feel a sense of relief, even joy, to see this convergence of views,” says Dr. Roughgarden. The illusion of conflict between belief in God and evolution is caused by poor presentation to the public of what evolutionary biology actually is. In Evolution and Christian Faith, Dr. Roughgarden clarifies the facts; explores current limitations to evolutionary theory; examines challenges posed by creationists and intelligent design proponents; and looks at Christian teachings and Scripture. Mutation rates and lizards (Dr. Roughgarden’s specialty) and the Epistles of Saint Paul all help illustrate a Christian vision of the world that embraces science.

its very eternal. energy nither be created nor be distroyed. it can only transformed from one state to an other. and also nothing in this world is constant. read both the above, u ll get the answer.

You absolutely should go to www.answersingenesis.org . Yes, they are decidedly Christian-biased, but they admit it and they have really good scientific discussions, not just religious ones, and yet it is in terms that most people can understand.

I don't really know. I think that there was some form of life here billions of years ago and it just kept evolving into what we are now. Who knows we could have all started out as micro-organisms or bugs and the strongest kept surviving and here we are. Great topic!!

The view those shows present is rather simplist...If you follow the Evolutionist theory to its very beginning, you will come to a point when you just can't explain it...Here you could find GOD. If you listen to the Creationist theory, well, pardon me, but with all the proof, it's ridiculous...

Personally, I do not believe in a creator deity. Therefore, creationism does not make any sense to me. Evolution is the better and more thought out theory to me. I think intelligent design is just another way to try to get "God" in schools when there is clearly supposed to be a seperation of church and state.

This is a great topic. I am a scientist and a Christian so I fit into both camps! I believe that both sides make good points in their efforts to discredit the other. This is an easy thing to do as nobody will ever know for sure! Still there are some points to consider. First, Science is always modofying their ideas as their theories grow. This is vastly different from religion who states their ideas as "pure truth". Scientists are happy to be proven wrong, indeed, it is their job to prove themselves werong and state what is "more right". So what it boils down to for me is that Creationism states some truths that are conceptually true: 1. There is some Intelligence that started all of this life. 2. Life doesnt just randomly happen and 3. There was a process by which the Intelligence did everything. I feel this fits quite nicely with evolution! That just happens to be the way God chose to develop life. From what I can see God takes a hands off approach as evidenced by his free will precept. Gotta go for now, but i'd like to say more sometime!

well thi is very simple for evolution some thing has to be exist and for existence soembody have to create it first. so in case of human, god has created us and human evolved by the passage of time, its height, color and structure was evolved but he is not from apes. if suppose he is evolve from apes then why there is still we see ape family out there, why dont they evolve their selves into human... think??? somebody tell me who says yes to Darwanism.