Escape from Iraq

Nuclear expansion first took place in the USA. Was it not the USA that almost wiped out Nagasaki and Hiroshima? Sure, what happens in the Middle East affected all of us the day the USA government started to give them nukes in exchange for black gold/Texas tea: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Iraq/Saddam_Rumsfeld_GoldSpurs.html

The sad truth is that going into Iraq was the biggest--and now irreversible--mistake the United States of America ever made. The consequences of this decision is now a severely divided Iraqi nation with civil war and extremist and terrorist acts occurring on a daily basis. Now the USA is in far-too-deep to pull out without causing severe ramifications for the US and the rest of the world. You mention that this conquering strategy "worked" in Japan. The main reason for this is that Japan was a very tightly knit nation with very loyal citizens. To this day the Japanese hold great respect for the ruling family even though they have no tangible legal power (though their influence can be quite significant). Iraq is a divided country on a long-but-apparently-forgotten war: the war between the Shiite and Sunni muslims. This was the situation in Iraq when the USA first got involved with Iraq and endorsed the CIA operation to place Saddam at its helm. Saddam turned on the US and told 'em to take a flying leap (the second failed attempt to 'puppetize' a country with a US-selected leader, the second I know of being Cuba where the USA put Fidel Castro into power). Now the USA went back in, let out their temper tantrum on Saddam Hussein with a barrage of smartbombs, and now Iraq is back to its original state as a divided civilly-warring country and to make matters worse a lot of Iraqis aren't too keen on the extreme measures used by the USA to remove one man from power that the majority of Iraqis didn't want there to begin with. This contrasts sharply to Japan where people were willing to die to serve their emperor and fulfill his vision for Japan's destiny. Japan was not a divided country so there was no infighting once the emperor (Japan) was defeated. This is why Japan was able to be rebuilt.

You (and others) have to understand one thing about war and occupation (or liberation). The government of the attacked country, has to surrender and have to sign up for peace. Germany did; they surrendered and accepted the conditions for peace. Japan did; and it was a strong peace they offered the usa. Irak never surrendered. They kept resisting the usa. Many other countries saw an opportunity to even some scores with the usa. Not to my likings, but the usa can't win this war, although they won the battle. All they can do, is stay in the area, and support the government of irak, or support the still willing people/groups in irak. But in fact, it's lost for the majority of the people in irak.

its not iraq that bothers me its iran the next war , how much lomger are we going to let this continue ?

and more importantly, could Granny Clampett have beaten Hilary Rodham-Clinton had the two been running for Possum Queen?

I am wondering what they are doing right now there in Iraq. Is it just for the oil to get more money, or is it really for the terrorists. I wonder the first thing because I saw some documentarys that the American people take many oil from out Iraq. I dont see the point why they are killing innocent (and non-innocent) people just for oil.

the case of iraq was plain lie and or deceit, its not the war of the u.s. of a. but the war of your president... bush. ignoring the u.n.'s view before the iraq and going it alone sort of made the u.s. foriegn policy the bully foreign policy. now your top politcal leadership is looking for ways to avert the situation in iraq before it spills out all over the region but still not getting or listening to the opinion of the u.n. body, as they say u.s. cannot do it alone but it seems that you have a hard headed president who thinks he can do it alone or dirty harry sort of. greetings. : )

split its not that us just gets off right away when it turns bloody....its just that when body count or injured us soldiers starts to hit the limit of forcasted casualties...us values its soldiers, so if thing is not worth paying with lives of soldiers for a conflict that cant be policed or fixed since involved in the conflict doesnt want to be helped then its time to go....remember mugadishu

I have talk ed to and do business with a feller here in the U.S.A. that is from Iraq and he was so happy when we went in and got Saddum out . He saw what ahd happened to all those families that Saddam killed some was his own family. So if the goverenment over there could come to agrement we could get our shouliers out of there and come home and watch our borders!!! We have let every one in legally but some still come over illigally yup we should come home and stop all aleins getting into our country and let the other countries take care of their selves . Iraq was already a bomb feild and a total wreck before we got there The news people dont tell all the good stories that happen over there just give us every gory detail they need to do more on what good we have done and it wasnt just Bush this was handed to him from other presidents it all comes down the line from one pres to the other

Oh man !!!! Iraq now the LAND OF HORROR these days :x

Basic missuse of the military. The military is great at breaking things and killing people. They are mot meant to be a police force or a nation builder. Let's break more stuff and kill more people. Smash the crap out of their infrastructures and they wont have time to screw with other people! HH

The war in Iraq is very terrible . I hate it and bush should reteared the troup

It's very important to escape from Iraq!!! Great Discussion!!!

They need to get those guys out of there...I think that it is pointless

The vision that I am liveing in Brazil is: U.S.A. is practically the main reason for everything what it happens in the world does not exist no bad thing that happens that U.S.A. is not involved. I know that nor always she is for the bad side, but exactly thus they permanessem involved, exactly that they are wanting alone to help. I believe that they finish taking pains them paises more fond and generating more confusion.

bcoz of them fear i think so

First of all USA is the one main reason for the problems in the whole world. if he thinks about positive not war then every thing will be right, due to usa Goverment many people are dieng in the IRAQ as well American army also