is feminism dead

Canada
December 17, 2006 1:56pm CST
I hear so much complaining from women that they kind find a man. Women are even having kids on their own because they can't find anybody who wants to settle down with them. And why would a guy want to marry a woman and raise her children when he's been told all his life that women don't need him? What in it for him? I think feminism is over and it didn't work. Women were happier back in the days before women's lib told them they didn't need men for relationships.
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@sunshinecup (7871)
17 Dec 06
Women's lib, wasn't about not needing a man, it was about being just as important as one. Do a history search on it. Me personaly, I like being a mans equal, yet I also love it when they get the door for me. Reckon, I'm a happy fence setter.
• Ireland
18 Dec 06
I totally agree with this comment, the whole point was equal worth not anything to do with relationships. What's in it for the man? Erm, only the same things that are in it for the woman. Being in a relationship does not negate the effects of women's liberation.
• United States
21 Dec 06
I wholeheartedly agree. Couldn't have said it better myself.
@babs6219 (153)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Like most of the previous posters, I think you may want to check what feminism and women's lib are all about. I don't need a man. I'm single, I support myself and my daughter very well. Would I like to remarry one day? Sure! But I don't need a man to be complete, I know that I'm important and my opinions are as valid as anyone. I'm very capable of standing on my own two feet, and there are many other women just like me out there. Good question, though!
• India
18 Dec 06
yeah! hope they have come a long way
• United States
18 Dec 06
Feminism is about respect and appreciation, not relationships. No one likes to have his or her ideas, values, contributions, etc. overlooked and ignored. Women have traditionally been treated as second class citizens in ancient history. However, there have always been women who have broken through and defied their own times and shown that they could accieve great things. Now society is more balanced in understanding that women can be smart and can accomplish things that add to and benefit our society outside of the home. Relationships are about getting to know others, seeing them as a whole person, respecting and valuing that person for everything that he or she is, and loving them for all that you like in him or her and in spite of all that you dislike about him or her. In a relationship, what makes the person you love happy makes you happy for them as long as that happiness is respectful and not taking advantage of the other. Women can accomplish great things and still have room for a loving relationship with a great guy. A great guy can see all that and isn't offended.
@raintree (16)
• United States
17 Dec 06
I believe it is more complex then women wanting children on their own. Some women don't want to further their education and have their own jobs. They believe if they can have a man's child then he will support them (she and the child or children). There is a small group of women who love working,traveling and don't want to spend their free time cleaning up after everybody else. After all some women like to have time to be on the golf court,or go to a baseball game. Some men can be equal partner with a woman with the cooking,child care, cleaning and others. Other men feel that because they work then the nights and weekends are theirs to play, watch t.v. or hang out with their friends. The house cleaning and child up-bringing is a woman job. Each person has the right to choose which life style they want. And there are women who are "Super Mom". They have a job and their spare time is doing it all at home with raising children,housework and picking up after the husbands. Back in the old days when a husband die or left the family the mother could not find a job to support her family. Either a woman was not allow to work or she was not allow to get a higher education to get a well-paying job. Read history on the "Glass Ceiling". She clean houses, took in ironing, or became a "Lady of the Night" to try and support her family. Women wasn't allow to work in factories until WWII. After the war,when the men came home,women were expected to give up their job for the men. Again read history. There are many cultures today that believes a woman is not worth anything but to be a man's wife and the mother to his children. "Being all that she can be" is taken away from her. She can be no more then a servent.
• Netherlands
19 Dec 06
Small amount of women only? Well most of my entire country is this way. Women are equal to men on all fields here and there isn't a problem getting men as men are used to this and welcome it. Womens lib was meant to get equal pay, rights and jobs for women who were before held back by traditional women's roles. It worked perfectly here and I am happy for it. Too bad some people don't understand that it was NOT anti-men but PRO equality that women's lib was about.
@jal1948 (1359)
• India
17 Dec 06
men r and always will be an intregal part of a woman,one cant do without the other.
• United States
21 Dec 06
Where does your way of thinking put lesbians and gays?
• Italy
18 Dec 06
I think no but i like the feticism
• Pakistan
18 Dec 06
The answer is absolutely not. In fact what the article does is attack non-feminists and anti-feminists, whose work is quite minor, instead of talking about the media culture, publishing culture, church culture -- the patriarchy itself which buys and promotes such books and treats them as if they're representative of feminism. While I agree that many of the very minor works that TIME referred to are beside the point, these are not feminist works. There are, however, many feminist works, serious works, that the article does not refer to. You would not have a lawsuit won against Mitsubishi, a win of $35 million, over gender harassment if you didn't have serious feminism. Those ideas are fighting very hard to win some justice for women. In the bibliography to Letters to A Young Feminist, there is a serious bibliography, 1992-1997, where very important works are cited, works such as Joanna Russ' "What Are We Fighting For?" And from my point of view, there's a long history, long before Susan B. Anthony, and those ideas are not discussed in this article. Neither are Betty Friedan's or Gloria Steinem's. What the article focuses on is the silliness, the superficiality of some women, which has always existed. If women could get ahead by flirting, they would rule the world. All of these fantasies, Ally McBeal and worse, are not feminist role models. Just because they say they're bad, that doesn't make them revolutionaries or feminists.
• Canada
18 Dec 06
I believe that feminism is still around, it's just not as popular as before. We as women, have been given the choice. We can choose to work or to stay at home. Some of us are chosing to work since financially we cannot stay at home. We are not saying that we need men or that we don't need men, we are saying that we are as important as men. That's all that matters.
@treblem (316)
• Philippines
18 Dec 06
ok. just enjoy it.
• India
18 Dec 06
dont Know
• Italy
18 Dec 06
there is no need today
• India
18 Dec 06
listening to others is good but use yr brains too, treat yr partner with all respect & equality, the last movement wud then just b love & affection
@deadpool (21)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Feminism was originally a good think: equal rights for women, such as preventing discrimination in work force, etc... But it quickly turned into an anti-male thing. Soon, it was about proving how women don't need men at all, and that is complete garbage. So why is it hard for both women and men to have relationships? Because men feel intimidated. The solution, in my opinion, is to open up a discussion that focuses not on a power struggle between the sexes but a partnership and mutual respect. Now it seems like thats gone and it's everybody for themselves.
@itsjustmeb (1212)
• Canada
18 Dec 06
I think this sounds backwards. I think from what i've heard about women's lib, that it was about not needing a man...
@sharon613 (2321)
• United States
18 Dec 06
no way
• India
18 Dec 06
his very survival is on it, you fool! otherwise why would men insist of their children taking their names istead of their mother's? logically if you think, only a child's mother can be traced accurately and not the father, so a child should ideally take its mother's name which is certain. instead men impose their name on the family on the pretext that they are the breadwinners. all shucks! if women got a chance to prove themselves long back, they would definitely have made a the world a much better better place than what men have managed to do. and believe me, our wise old men (centuries back) understood the true potential of women and thus to protect their own gender, they framed such baised rules on various religious pretexts.
@warn810 (494)
• United States
18 Dec 06
women have come a long way.
@isha900 (1459)
• India
18 Dec 06
yes
• United States
18 Dec 06
I hope so
• Malaysia
18 Dec 06
it should be...