Ethics and Cheating- Is Cheating more common in less developed countries?
By Metallion
@Metallion (2227)
United States
December 23, 2006 5:02pm CST
I've noticed a lot of one word responses are common from people on here that don't speak english very well. I've also noticed a lot of paid to read programs won't allow members from countries such as Russia, China, India, Pakistan, German, etc.
Are the ethics in those countries different? Is it a situation where they are taught to do anything you can to make money and don't worry about following the rules?
Or do you think the people that own paid to read programs are overreacting? I don't think they are all bad, but I do agree it's more common to find cheaters from those countries.
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46 responses
@DavidReedy (2378)
• United States
24 Dec 06
It's all about the almight dollar, apparently. I don't know why, I hate to stereotype, but I've noticed a lot of cheating from some of those specified countries as well. Who knows?
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
as others mentioned above, if the value of $20-30 is more to them than it is to other countries it does help to explain why they might abuse the system, though it doesn't excuse them doing that.
@darule (81)
• India
23 Dec 06
yeah as stated above the value for a 10 to 30$ might mean a lot to those poeple and if that wud have been to you wudnt that have ahd make sense i think germans dun speak english so they might have been prevented from many such boards but yes there is a significant substance to your point
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@all_n_one (2003)
• United States
24 Dec 06
It is simple every site allows the US and then UK,AU,& CA because we spend a massive load of money more then other country's do. They pay more to market to us in the US then any place else. Allot of other countries have a reputation for stealing which is why paypal has banned them. It isn't everybody from those countries but it is allot.
@all_n_one (2003)
• United States
24 Dec 06
LOL... man I was agreeing with you. If that was me and I had sites like that i'm not gonna offer this stuff to country's where most people scam. People get mad of that but it is a fact and it makes it worse that they are poor country's also. We scam in america but we make up for it with the rest that spend massive money.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I never said it was everyone, but a program owner has to make a decision if they see a large % of cheaters from a country about whether they should ban members from that country.
@calvin222 (1606)
• India
25 Dec 06
Cheating is not more common in less developed countries. it is just less organised. cheating in developed countries is less perceptible as knowledge allows the people to cheat in more imperceptible ways. as it is mylot does not credit one word replies.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
25 Dec 06
right, but people still think they can get credit so they try it. Oh well they will learn eventually.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
didn't have a whole list in front of me, but it seems like a lot of the Soviet block countries from the past are on the banned list. I know the explanation from program owners was that cheating was an issue with Romania.
@scholastic (728)
• India
24 Dec 06
well i would just like to differ from u..the fact that most of the discussions started here are really silly and they deserve nothing more than a line..eg. what would u reply to topics "coke v pepsi"..i believe u won't write a thesis describing the benefits..and i am sure all guys here are decent enough to express thier ideas in simple english..and just because there are certain systems which are not available in the countires mentioned doesn't prove anything..so just don't try to create controversies..
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Sorry, but again they need to read the rules. You are not required to respond to every discussion. By responding to those discussions they are helping the cheaters who start poll questions (against terms of use, starting polls that ask for one word terms), again the key here is to read and understand the rules since everyone agreed to obey them
@kishchun (497)
• Oman
24 Dec 06
metallion,i honestly DON'T think you should be voicing such an ignorant, narrow minded opinion like this!
first, people from the countries you mention don't always give you one word answers. if they do, it might also be because they are not much interested in the topic or don't have much to say about it. not necessarily because they don't know English.
second, it's not only in these countries that you have cheats. they might be developing not developed countries, but some of them have a rich heritage and culture, a strong moral code, ethics, taught consciously and unconsciously. i don't understand how you can say that people are taught to make money any way possible, that they have no ethics? do you think that you can make such statements just because you happen to come from a developed country?
does it mean that there are no cheats in your country, a developed country? in a developed country, for all it matters, you might have cheating in an organised, more systematic way! i have travelled quite a few european countries and have seen public warnings of cheats,thieves and pickpockets everywhere. my partner experienced one such incident in a metro station once too - almost lost his passport, money and laptop.
so, isn't it that the population is denser in the developing countries and poverty and unemployment more intense that some people tend to cheat (not all)? and if you take the circumstances they are in, the population, the problems all counted in, then you don't see any reason why their counterparts in the developing countries should cheat.
above all, ethics is more a thing of the past in the west than in the east , i think - am subject to correction though.
i am not done yet, and have lots more to say about the issue, but some other time i guess. hope to hear from you though.
@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I do not assume that disallowing memberships is out of fear of cheating. I think it is more likely an inability or difficulty paying people in those countries. I also think that if a country has proportionately more people then you will see proportionately more cheaters, and more heroes, and more geniuses, and more of everything else, like poor people and people trying to get ahead. I hope that the people who speak English poorly will get a chance to improve. I have noticed some pretty poor English from lots of us native born English people as well. I think we do not teach as well as we used to. Just my opinion. I will look for more of your discussions.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Sorry, but see owners of these programs have said those countries are banned due to cheating, so your assumption is wrong.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
As long as you can understand english that way, post in english, and don't make one word responses just to earn then you are following the rules and are a good member.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I don't think their ethics is different to any country. It might be more difficult to do business with a foreign country. They might not be familiar with the rules there and just want to stick with countries they are familiar with. If you had list some place like Nigeria, I would agree because they have such a bad reputation, but the countries you reference appears to be okay. There are always a few bad apple.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
the rules state short answers are abusing the system, they agree to the rules when they sign up. Igorance of the rules is not an excuse.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
But this isn't about political contacts this is about online programs and the people that cheat them.
@narayanswarup (221)
• India
24 Dec 06
well if u r saying about cheating that u should know that everywhere u will find all kinds of people but i have noticed one thing about system of countries that in underdeveloped countries u will find cheating at all levels while for developed countries it is at high levels .
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Actually I disagree, I think there is cheating in all levels of all countries. Just it is less prevalent in the developed ones.
@vmoore709 (1101)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I don't think it's so much as "cheating" in all cases. They may not understand English very well and they give a short answer to at least participate. They very well may give those answers in order to make as much as they can. Money is so different in other countries and our small amount may be a big deal for them. It doesn't bother me too much.
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
See here's the thing, if they can't understand the rules of a program, they shouldn't join. Remember when you join you agree to obey the rules of the program.
@gadituzair (985)
• Pakistan
24 Dec 06
No i dont think so.....most of my life i was in pakistan and i also went to America, britain .....but there was no worth metioning difference in the level of corruption, cheating or any other crimes..what i personally think is tha the cheating and other crimes are far more in developed countries coz as the technology advancdes towards more and more automation the larger tha number of lopholes in those techologies grow...so the probability of cheatin goes up!
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
based on "your own morality" doesn't give people a right to cheat though does it? I agree with the PO's that banned countries with exhorbinant cheating %'s.
@saiearnsmoney (204)
• India
24 Dec 06
See its not only in Less developed countries its all over the world we should not specify any countries its a big problem.So Stop mentioning the countries name.Yes they da its all becoz of poverty
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
No, there are certain countries whose members have a higher % of number of cheaters. Sorry you want to live in denial.
@neeyor (147)
• India
24 Dec 06
Oh i agree wit u that peolpe do cheat in this country as most of the people r poor and needs money. in case of india u should look for the history of colonism. the way british came and after fighting for 200 years they left. they made a good nation poor. from where do u think people will get whatever the lost. and do u thing USA is not cheating wit the war on iraq??? just in the name of anti-terrism , he is taking the oil. so it not n e thing to do wit the country or ethics. its all from people to people.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Actually any money from oil is being given back to the Iraq government, so you are wrong there.