Is GOD the right name?

Davidreedy you sound like a very intelligent man. You sound like you are still learning like myself in anycase I like your tone and some knowledge that you have but I tell you that I agree with you 100% that Christianity is pagan. I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN AT ALL. I DO NOT GO TO CHURCH. I seek to know the father for myself and I worship the father at home. THAT'S IT. However I do disagree with you about GOD and DOG. They have everything to do with one another. The point I am trying to make is the almighty creator WOULD NOT associate himself with a name like GOD because backwards it spells DOG. You see our heavenly creator is all magnificant and glorious and honorable. HE WOULD NOT PICK A NAME LIKE GOD TO REPRESENT HIS GLORY when backwards god spells dog. There is just no way.

I think she means hidden from us as in Christians .. or something similar. Hebrews have known His name(s) all along... they know a lot of other stuff, too! I think we can all learn something from them, eh? You're correct that so many "christian" things are of pagan origin. In light of that, let me ask you this..do you think it matters whether paganism is the origin of a particular ritual or occasion? And if so, can we make it right and good? If not, why not?

What are you if not a christian? There are so many things about the christian faith that make me say, "If that's what a christian is, I am not one". Yet I'm not a heathen, either. Nor am I a Jew. Or a Muslim. I don't attend church because they're all full of man made doctrine. Every one I've ever been to, in one way or another, twists truth to suit their own needs, their own beliefs. I worship my ABBA every day but not in a church building and not always with others present. So, out of curiosity, what do you call yourself or do you not have a name for it?

nobodyspecial just think about his for a moment How can you have a relationship with somebody, and not call that person by their name? I don't know if you are a girl or a boy but have you ever had a girlfriend? If so, did you go around calling your girlfriend hey girl come here? Where you been girl? Hey girl where you going? Did you do this all year long calling her like that? Or did you call her by her name?

I agree with you. We can call Him Father or Abba Father if walking by the Spirit and believing in Him, we will have a close relationship with Him and He is then our Father. We dont need to argue about His name, His name is "I am" and He would love for all to have a relationship with Him. He said to Moses His name is "I am" and nothing changed since the OT to the NT regarding the characteristics of God. I think it is far fetched to read symbolism in chaning the word God to dog. As it was first said He has other names in Greek and Hebrew and yes the word God in Hebrew came from God and the Romans used the same word for God for their gods as they thought their god had the same characteristics and therefore they used the same name. We know who God is and if you dont just read the Scriptures as He wants us all to know Him and who He is. Therefore we dont need to argue about His name especially to people who dont believe in Him or Christ because we dont talk about the same God now do we?

I am a Christian however and also believe in Christ - just had to mention it.

Allah merely means 'The One' or 'The One Who Is' or even, 'The Breath' ('ah' being the sound that breath makes) in English. Again, it is not a name, it is a description. I believe that YHWH is actually intended to mean much the same thing. In other words, there is no name; there can be no name, as humans have names. There is only one supreme Being who is unnameable, indescribable, ineffable. He doesn't really mind what you call Him, so long as you try your best to know Him as He is. If you like to call Him Jahweh and someone else likes to call Him God (but not 'a god' or even 'the god'), then it doesn't matter one bit. It is what each of us MEANS by the name that matters. It's unfortunate, perhaps, that you might mean something else by the word 'God' but that is not a matter to argue about. As an example, if I were German, I might refer to Him as 'mein Vater' which sounds rather rude if you think of the sound as representing an English word. I think that your basic fallacy is that you are saying that the word 'god' means 'idol'. This is not true. In English the word 'god' means something that is worshipped (correctly or not) as a supernatural being capable of affecting the lives of mortals. If it is used in lower case, it is generally understood to mean 'things worshipped falsely' but when written with a capital 'G' it means 'thing(s) worshipped truely'. That is just a convention of the English language, no more.

Does nature have authority over the creator or does the creator have authority over nature? You speak well You read well and You learn well but you only speak of nature and not the creator. For the creator WOULD NOT give people a name and not take a name for himself. Now if you have been reading very careful you notice in the scripture that John the Baptiser was given a name by the spirit. And many of the children of Israel were given a name by the father. If you think names is not important, then why did the father give the children of Israel names if it was not important.

The original post is not assumeing anything.The post stated a thought of the hebrew God and expressed it.In the meaning of the true name of that God as yahweh.The Hebrew bible says its right,answer to the other question.You or anyone else can call your god anything you want.But the post is about the hebrew GOD and his name Yahweh.

But that's my point easywiz, you cannot call our heavenly father whatever you want. Thats like me calling you a BIT** If that's that case. If you can call our supreme power above. Our ruler and wonderful creator whatever you want, then that me I can call you a jack*** if I wanted because you just said that we can call our heavenly creator whatever we wanted. THAT IS SUCH A LIE Well now I know you got a little offended when I said that if you can call our heavenly creator whatever you wanted then that means I can call you whatever I want to. That means I can call you a jack*** since you said names don't matter. But you see, if you were offended by me calling you a jack*** or BOB, or Tiny Tim, or whatever, how do you think that our heavenly creator feels when we call him by that demonic name GOD? Think people. THINK. and open your eyes. He answers our prayers because we don't know any better but now that the truth is coming out, we have a choice to choose truth over the years and centuries of lies that we were taught.

As I have said, Tradeshow, He is actually nameless but if you want to call Him Yahweh, that is OK by Him. It's what YOU understand by it when you use the name that matters. If I prefer to call Him Father or Abba (which is simply Aramaic for 'daddy', by the way) or even Tiny Tim, then so long as He knows that what I am visualising is the best approximation to what He is that I can manage, He understands and, I believe, is as amused as any parent would be at a child's earnest attempts at using language.

Since you want to go with what G stands for and what O stands for and what D stands for well then lets do it First G stands for Garden. Lets check out what happened in the garden between Adam and Eve the devil said to Eve," the father knows you are going to be like GODS and your eyes will be opened and you will know right from wrong. How therefore that the father can be a GOD when the devil told Eve she gonna be like GODS. So is EVE equal to the Father or is EVE equal to the devil. Second O represents the earth they are idols. Third if you can find anything in value with the letter D, please let me know.

It was not like GODS plural but God singular, and it was the devil the great deceiver who said this.

Is this biblical, anywhere in the Bible or normal symbolism?

Right on, SunshineCup! It seems to me that there is confusion but not in your mind or mine!

Sorry but if I address you as a man and do not know your name and I said I know you, don't you think it will be confusing?

Tradeshow, I just have to ask, do you call your father by his first name? Or do you call him Dad, Daddy, Oldman, Father, etc. How is that any diffrent? IMO my relationship is just as close no... MORE close than my relationship with my parents. Do you feel God is upset with us for not getting his name right? Just curious, I've been reading through the posts and I am not clear.

I am not sure what you mean by 'mixing up two deities'. There are those that assert that the God of Israel - the one referred to as YHWH - is, in fact, a tribal god who was worshipped by the Jews, just as Baal and many other gods mentioned in the Bible were worshipped by other peoples. Naturally, the Jews asserted that their god was better/more powerful than the other gods. My own view is that there is, indeed, only one Creator who pervades (actually and through His creation) all things in the Universe. He doesn't have a name, as such, and to give Him a personal name reduces the concept we should have of Him to something bounded by the human mind. I wish I could show you how great this Being is, how worthy of our love and involvement as we feel ourselves to be unworthy of His. However, I cannot show you: He Himself will show you, though, if you allow him to do so. Unlike the YHWH of the Bible, He does not fight corners, He does not support one race against another, since all men are His creation, nor is He subject to what we think of as the emotions of love and hate. His business is, indeed, Love (and that is the best word I can find to describe the caring, intelligent energy which maintains everything in a state of continual creation). Call Him/Her/It what you will, He is immanent in everything and His Way is the way the Universe works. As humans, we can either be in agreement or opposition to that Way. Being in agreement is what we call 'good', being in opposition is what we call 'evil'. Giving this Being a name is a very natural human trait. We have language, therefore we need names to call things by. However, by attempting to name God (notice that this title is distinguished by a capital letter to indicate that there is only one), we also tend to reduce our concept of Him to human terms, which is not doing Him justice.

you are very knowledgable and I recognize you knew something but I'm differ because I believe we are mixing up two deitys and actually putting them in one. But the name is different to another and the result is completely different so I will like you to make a little more research and check it out and see the difference.

If we are reduced to acronyms, how about G.O.D. ... Goodness Overrides Denomination

Father = Creator = 'force of Nature'. They are one and the same. What we are talking about is truly beyond human comprehension because it has no name except those that humans choose to give it. Is there a problem with that?

Yes I've been studying. It is the force of nature that i'm dealing with and not the creator. That's what I am trying to portray. This is what I know the force of nature thats what you are referring to but not the father. That's one of my description of describing god

Listen to me I'm glad that you bring that up since you don't want to identify yourself. Let's be anonymous and lets keep your GOD in the dark and lets all don't know nothing about him and lets all be afraid of him. Since you said names are petty. I appreciate you want more in this messed up world and that's where I am trying to assist you so your mind can grasp a little more than what you have

Don't want to identify myself? (insert confused look here) It sounds like you've totally missed my point. (sigh) I wish you luck on your path and hope that the light finds you someday.

Hold on, is this mylot or are we in church? Now listen to me, there is so much hurt in the world, how can I do more hurt to the world by just trying to clarify that nature and the Father IS NOT THE SAME? I am not denying that your GOD do not exist but all I am saying is that HE IS NOT THE FATHER. Well you are right GOD is universal because GOD is nature but it has nothing to do with the FATHER

That might be your oppinion but dont try and force your oppinion unto everybody else, it is not going to happen.

But do you hear how that sounds? He is the God above all gods? So in actuality, you are saying he is the idol above all idols right? Because that's what god really stands for. Also, our creator cannot destroy himself. It says in the bible that he will destroy ALL GODS. Now how can our creator destroy all gods and destoy himself also?

So in actuality, you are saying his the idol above all idols right? Because that's what god really stands for. You may see him as just an idol, but the meaning of the word God, is Supreme Being. Just checked the dictionary to be sure. Also, our creator cannot destroy himself. Yep, that is true. It says in the bible that he will destroy ALL GODS. now how can our creator destroy all gods and destoy himself also? Because the statement "he will destroy ALL GODS", does not seem to me to include himself, just because he is a God. Now if it said, "He will destroy all Gods, including himeself", then well there would be reason to question how that could be. IMO I hoped this has helped.

There are 2 different deity's One is false and One is True So if you examine the name very careful the Hebrew people does not give their children pagan name because sometimes the Father himself give the children the name. My point is that the messaih came from Israel and how could the messaih come with a pagan name to save the world?

Yes the MEsiaha is Jesus as it has been prophesied about for more than 2000 years. I dont know what name you talk about which is a pagan name? The Romans started the name from the orriginal name God as given n the OT before the Romans.

Well Alpha and Omega is greek. It is not Hebrew so therefore this is the Greek deity and has nothing to do with the Father. I appreciate that you are looking for something but identification is important in life. If a man was to identify himself as a man in the bank, how far will he get in withdrawing his money?

Identification is only of importance to humans, of whom there are many. Why should the One be concerned with identification? 'Alpha and Omega' is, indeed, Greek. We would say 'Ay and Zee', perhaps, meaning simply 'First and Last'. Again, it's not a name but an attempt at a description!

You would be better, Tradeshow, to worship Him in your heart. Perhaps you do, though, and I am merely splitting hairs over terminology.

and that's another problem, we have too many da** religions in this place, that's why I don't even go to church. I worship the creator right in my house.

Buddha is a da** statue Buddha is an idol and the bible is against ALL IDOLS and golden images or wooden images

There are statues of the Buddha, it is true, but Buddhists will tell you that the Buddha (notice that this is a title, not a name) was a man who achieved enlightenment. He is in no way a god, or even a representation of one, and he is worshipped (or revered, if you prefer) as a great man, in the same way that people revere George Washington or Winston Churchill or Mahatma Gandhi, say (though, of course, these are not revered to such a degree). In Buddhism there is no word or name for what Christians or Muslims think of as 'God' or 'Allah' or for what you and I refer to as the 'Creator'. As often happens, though, statues become imbued with their own life in the minds of many people and superstition is a natural and essential thing for many. Buddhism does not teach that one should worship idols but the fact is that the tacit encouragement of idolatry is as big a money-spinner in Buddhism as it is in the Catholic Church!

What if I say, man is a man and you just a man, how would you feel? Is that identifying who you are?

I disagree with that statement, BrickShy. I think that, until Jesus began his teaching (when he was about 30), most people would have called him by his given name, which we render as Jesus. His disciples, however, seem to have addressed him by the title of 'Master'. We still do this sort of thing universally when we address someone as 'Doctor' or 'Professor' or 'Sir' or 'Madam'. Messiah is likewise a title. It means 'Anointed [by God]' in English and 'Christos' in Greek. I am quite sure that nobody ever addressed Jesus as 'Messiah', though to state 'you are the Messiah' would have been a valid answer to His question 'Who do you say that I am?'

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The fact of the matter is, I do know his name. And if you read, you will know too. It is right in front of our eyes. All you have to do is open your eyes and stop being blind. I am not searching for GOD, I am searching for the heavenly father of heaven and earth. NOT GOD. There is a difference.

Ok Rick Jones, I have said and proved everything regarding our fathers TRUE NAME in this thread. If you want to stay ignorant go right ahead. By the way, your name is Rick Jones right? Ok good so today your name is Rick Jones Then tomorrow, your name will be Chung Kow Ling Then on Wednesday, I will call you Abdul Buchaneer Then on Thursday I will call you Jack Jerk Then on Friday your name will be Gay Harrison Now on Saturday when you try to cash your paycheck, tell the bank teller that your name and identification does not matter. Then come back here and tell me how far you got.