Religion in public, i.e. Religion in Public Schools, etc..

Thank you also for a very good point. I am glad that so many people are interested in this topic. I did a school paper on it in one of my college classes. It is a very interesting topic for believers and nonbelievers.

I agree when religion and discipline went so went the children

That is a very good and interesting point. It seems that us Christians tend to get the back burner on alot of things. But thats ok I guess, for we are not the ones who will suffer. Thanks.

At my school if you had a cross or a religious necklace on you were told to wear it under your shirt... - DNatureofDTrain

Thank you very much for your comment. As I said before, this can be a very touchy subject.

Ok. First of all, I am a Christian. However I totally don't believe in forcing others to believe as I do. That being aid, I thiink all peaceful religions could hypotheticaly have a placve in school. I understand those who don't want religious beliefs they don't agree with shoved on their kids. So don't shove. For example, perhaps there is a student led Christian club on campus. Whats wrong with finding common ground? Maybe there could also be student led jewish, muslim, or buddhist clubs. To me, while I don't believe in other religions besides mine, I know others do. Personally, I don't know how someone can propel throughout their day and not include their faith, let alone their life. I think we should be allowed to include that. I also don't think the teachers themselves should lead the clubs. However, I think it might be worthwhile to look into hiring teachers to teach basic religious beliefs for different religions as a separate subject if they are all equally allowed to have classes based on interest. Just something to intellectually stimulate kids and include their faith if they choose it. I am talking a different class for each religion there's a great interest in. For example, in my high school, they approved n Old testament Bible History course for the new school year. However, we (being a select few who heard rumors of th class. There were less than 5.) had study halls and were able to get out of it. We were told we had to have like 20 people 2 days later (Wednesday)to keep the class on the schedule. The guidance counselor was swapped to to schedules that needed to be edited, and she had to do ones that were her mistake first. We begged them to extend the deadline so she could get to the students for our elective class. We also asked them to make an announcement about the class. They did neither. So the class got dropped. I thought it would have been great because Private schools have classes like that but most people can't afford them. I also think if they're not going to allow religion to be taught in school, they shouldn't be able to teach kids things that contradict religions, like evolution. What you you think?

I think you are absolutley right. Why teach evolution, as far as we came form monkeys. Teaching that thing evolve, which is scientific fact, is ok though.

I know when I was in high school there were some religion based clubs and some race based clubs. You either were in them or you were not. It honestly was not an issue back then. So many things have changed in the last few years, people as a whole have become less tolerant of each other I think. At least that is what I have been seeing here. I would like to see the "factual" information given to all children in the higher grades when they are old enough to decide important things for themselves, evolution included (I believe it myself cause it makes more sense to me.) I homeschool my kids and I keep an open dialog with them about stuff like this. They know what my opinions are but they know that my opinions are just that ~~ mine. If they feel differently that is their right and not for me to choose for them.

This is a very good comment, Thank you for your honesty. This can be a very touchy subject. I agree with you.

I agree with your comment and the sad thing is Christianity is still promoted in the schools. School is let out for Winter break so people can celebrate "Christmas" Which is a religious holiday and should not be a holiday. They should no more let school out for Christmas and Easter than they would for Islamic or Buddah or Jewish Holidays. But our government has yet to realize they still do adhere to relgious holidays in the schools. New Year, St. Valentine's day, St. Patrick's day, Easter, May Day, Halloween and Christmas are ALL relgious holidays that schools are let out for or observe and other's who object to them teaching children in school are looked down on but it is still teaching one religious practice or belief over another. Be it Chrisitanity or Paganism and plain should NOT be observed in the schools period any more than prayer should. The schools are state run government agencies and to favor one religous holiday over another is a violation in the USA of church and state. Period. Fine observe national holidays, MLK, Presidents, Memorial day, even Mother's and Father's day and Vetern's and Labor day and Columbus day and even Thanksgiving they are national holidays not religious. Eventually people will see that and slowly they are.

I totally dissagree Celanith. Yes those are religious holidays, but not every one who celebrates them is. Plus, you shouldn't want to take things away from people just because you don't like something, or don't believe in something. And what if I didn't like fathers, or didn't beleive in them, does that give me the right to take the holiday away from someone else? NO! It doesn't! Plus, you seem to have you 'seperation of church and state' ideas confused, as most people do. It was created by Christians who didn't want the church running the government. Celebrating Christmas and Easter does not mean that the church is running the government. Anyway, people tend to look into things way to much, if the fore fathers of this country, who were God fearing good people, knew how people of today were gonna annalize everything they they wrote, they probably would have changed what they wrote. No matter what anyone may say, the forefathers of our country were beleivers in God. God bless you all, and God help those that are lost.

I understand what you are saying but, who decides who is minority and who is majority?

If you don't allow someone to where a cross, etc...then you are taking away their freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. If that ever happens, wow, we might become like Hitler's Geramny. Scary thought.

I agree with that believing in God and in religion can be two different things. I am a Christian and do believe in both Jesus and God, but I don't always stick with what the Christian mainstream is preaching. I guess I'm just a rebel.

I agree with you too. Religion should not be taught in public schools and it is the parent or guardians job. Thanks.

I just had somebody here make the same type of comment about religion and other countries and this country. For some reason some people have an overwhelming opinion that the US is a completely Christian country but it isn't and hasn't been one even in the very beginning there were people from other religions and even then they were ridiculed for being non-Christian. I didn't bother to respond to her comment either cause I knew the wall I would have been speaking too.

Very true. Thanks abunch for your comment and opinion. It is greatly appreciated.