why don't americans know how to spell?
By catchre
@catchre (396)
Philippines
25 responses
@shooie (4984)
• United States
28 Dec 06
I would like to know why people like to generalize all americans. As for spelling sometimes I get to typing so fast I will miss type. Now at work my memo's and letters go out with no errors on them but here nah I don't kill myself making sure every thing is perfect. As for grammer have you read some of the stuff in here and it isn't written by just americans. Can you say you never spell words wrong or use improper grammer. I'm not there so I can't judge you as you have taken the time to do in your post about Americans. Thanks and have a great day.
@catchre (396)
• Philippines
28 Dec 06
i can speak your language better than you can and i know the english vocabulary like it's my own native language. why would you be less accurate than others who weren't born american? i wouldn't be posting here if that guy didn't act like a total smart@ss, know-it-all.
@Lil_miz_ice_x (614)
•
30 Dec 06
You can't generalise like that! What makes you qualified to judge a whole nation? And you're hardly articulate, and your grammer is terrible, because if you were any good at engaging your brain, you'd know that you can't put a question mark at the end of a statement -- 'sometimes they have wrong grammer' is not a question, so before you lecture others on thier grammer skills, check your own.
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@jessicameron (374)
• United States
29 Dec 06
Since we are on the subject, let me rephrase your question for you in proper English:
Why don't American's know how to spell? Sure, they speak English, but they don't know how to spell some words in their vocabulary, and sometimes they have wrong grammar.
See, your first mistake was failing to capitalize the word "Americans". American is a proper noun (in this case, although it can be used as an adjective as well). Proper nouns are ALWAYS capitalized in English. Unless you are e. e. cummings, which somehow I do not believe.
Second, you failed to capitalize the word "sure". The first word in any sentence should be capitalized.
Your third mistake was the horrendous run-on sentence. Even with the commas thrown in, it still sounds awkward. Grammatically correct, but awkward nonetheless.
Lastly, you ended a declarative sentence with a question mark. Surely you know better than that. Or do you??
Before you claim to be an expert in my language, at least learn the basics. Under normal circumstances, I would never criticize someone speaking English as a second language. I think any attempt at doing so is admirable, and of course practice makes perfect. But you dared to generalize and insult Americans, which I take as a personal attack. Therefore, you have been made out to be an idiot. Good day!
@jessicameron (374)
• United States
29 Dec 06
Oh wait! There is one more. "American's" should definitely not have an apostraphe. The plural form of American is Americans. Unless you are referring to our belongings, which you were not, the apostraphe is completely unecessary.
@catchre (396)
• Philippines
29 Dec 06
First of all, I didn't write my topic as "Why don't American's know how to spell?" The apostrophe was your own mistake. You eventually corrected it but you forgot to mention that it was your own error. Funny, isn't it? You were criticizing your own blunder and yet you reprimanded yourself about it afterwards. Maybe you are the one who needs to learn the basics.
Second of all, I am not insulting any Americans. If you are offended, maybe there's something more under your hostility that my lousy, grammatically incorrect question has triggered.
@jessicameron (374)
• United States
30 Dec 06
Hostility? Ummm... no, I don't think so. Just my response to your arrogant and egotistical nature. Trust me, it takes a lot more than a cocky Filipino to make me hostile. Sorry to disappoint!
@xX13lazinXx (258)
• United States
28 Dec 06
Well not all people in the US have bad grammar. Same with every other country! Some people are dumb, some people are smart.
@xX13lazinXx (258)
• United States
28 Dec 06
True, I thought it wasn't a real word but according to www.dictionary.com it is. But calling me 'dumb' for not knowing if it was a real word is extreme. What if you missed a basketball shot, failed a math test or miscounted some money, would you consider yourself retarded?
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@Rapture (84)
• United States
29 Dec 06
you speak english but you have "wrong grammar"
How do you know someone is American just because speak english?
What makes you so sure that the grammer you learn is correct?
What you learn and school and what you learn in society are a lot different, you need to learn to make that distinction.
Grammer and spelling that are popularly accepted may not necessarily be what is taught to students, and I am sure this is true with EVERY language.
@catchre (396)
• Philippines
29 Dec 06
i am talking about americans...those who were born in the US and whose native tongue is english.
english is the universal language. i know that the grammar i learned is correct because STANDARD english is being taught in school. is there any other standard english grammar that exists? none! even the british english has the same standards.
words may be spelled differently and they are all accepted as correct. like the word cretin - it means a stupid, mentally defective person or a congenital loser. in swedish it is spelled as kretin. but i am talking about standard, universal english. it has structures that have always and will always be used and followed.
@catchre (396)
• Philippines
29 Dec 06
that's why some americans can't spell words correctly because they tend to confuse the sound with the spelling of the word. slang is mainly verbal speech and it's different in standard English vocabulary, grammar and phonetics. as americans, shouldn't they know the difference?
@not4me (1711)
• United States
29 Dec 06
Despite the standard English syllabi taught in schools throughout the world, each English-speaking country has developed slang and dialects unique to each country, or even region-to-region within a single country. In these countries it is not uncommon to see slang used in both formal and casual prose. So until you perfect your own grammar and (especially) punctuation, please get over yourself as you come off less perspicacious and more of a pedantic fool.
@catchre (396)
• Philippines
29 Dec 06
So i guess you want to come off as smart. Your response seems to be an ostentatious, pretentious or (what's the term -- pedantic?) attempt to impress, if not to redeem oneself by pointing out the most trivial of details (e.g. punctuation). And in case you didn't pick up on it, the focus of this topic is American English (specifically spelling) -- not British English, not Newfoundland English, not any other kind of English. I know that there are divergences in the English language when it comes to spelling, pronunciation, origin, phonology, etc. but those variations are not the focus here.
Misspelling words is different from not actually knowing how to spell some words. If you happen to misspell something, it could just be another case of carelessness. But if you don't know how to spell some words in your vocabulary, then that is what they call illiteracy. American English should be spelled correctly by the Americans because if not, wouldn't it strike you as funny and bizarre?
@hockeygal4ever (10021)
• United States
4 Jan 07
a lot of it is simply laziness
also, on the net people tend to not really care that much
@tanmayangre (841)
• India
2 Jan 07
coz they try to shorten every thing
that leads to full confusion in their minds
@angnima (772)
• Nepal
4 Jan 07
Native people can talk their language fluently.
For fluency no one needs correct spelling.
Every native will focus on pronunciation of the word not
on spelling.
@jenbatres (799)
• United States
2 Jan 07
It bothers me too, I have been to college twice -- taken 9 English classes total, I still feel like there is more to learn.
@freesoul (3021)
• Egypt
4 Jan 07
I hate generalization and it's the same everywhere, many French people don't spell French right or use proper grammar, Spanish, Greeks, etc they all have the same thing.
And just because people don't write in perfect English here it doesn't mean they are not good at it, everyone is just typing fast and not checking their spelling/grammar afterwards, it's all for fun here not an English language exam!
@masterminds (352)
• India
29 Dec 06
My father once told a joke about a american clerk who did not know the correct plural of mongoose. The clerk reportedly sent the following letter: ”Dear Sir, Please send me a mongoose. Oh, by the way, send me another one, too.” The plural of mongoose is mongooses, but the Merriam Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (10th ed.) appends “also mongeese.” I disagree, but that is another story.
@anju_the_leo (14)
• India
4 Jan 07
mostly the mind runs faster than the hand and mistakes happen....but it doesnt mean that english is bad or v dont know the spellings
@waynet (2650)
•
30 Dec 06
Well americans think they know best!
Or rather a small minority of ignorant people think this or is it just bush!
@tlex107250 (667)
• United States
29 Dec 06
It may be that they rely too much on a spell checker. I think that since spell checker is out, they just type in the word, and let the spell checker fix the spelling, rather than letting their brain do the work.
@angel_manders (912)
• Canada
31 Dec 06
its not that they have bad grammer its just they have been on the messaging thing to long and have learned to many different ways to say things like.... knoe, okaiz just my examples it something that kids like doing and gets addicting.
@pankaj333 (41)
• India
30 Dec 06
In my view the 'understanding' forms the basis of any kind of communication. For instance will it bother you much to understand the meaning if the word 'colour' is spelled as 'color'.